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My Impression as casual non bis pug player
name0rng
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My impressions as pug player , not bis - one, two levels behind bis
( t2 burning gear not elemental , purple artifacts and arti gear , rank 8-9 etc )
10 matches in the new event
6 wins - was fun
4 losses - 3 of them was fun
1 match against those pre made bug abusers guilds
don't need to go far , just take a look at the leaderboard .. U will see .. Sadly those are the guilds that also dominate a lot of this forum .. It's sad actually they call them self pro .. Make me laugh ..
A - it's computer game , not real sport , with all do respect
B- real PvP players ( like those in drider server , and Im Not Russian ) will fight clean and will not search glitches to use
C- real PvP players will search challenge , so they won't pre made against pugs .. And 99% of this server is pugs PvP
another notes for balance from this matches and a lot more others since mode 6 is out : ( been playing several classes )
* all notes speaking to the average between players , ofc there are players that u sometimes see in each class that are unkillable , godlike dmgers , but they not the average encounter players
op - tank op needed to tuned down defensively a bit ( his encounter powers bonuses in protection path, like temp hp too high )
HR - this stun root thing also need half sec less duration in each cycle so u will have a chance to dodge\ block the next one
CW - even with the nerf still do great dmg , so it's all good there
DC - the healer build can be insane .. But with good control .. He is manageable
GWF - dmg great , but very hard to win with him against ranged class , he will need some love in feats ( dmg resist bonuses so he won't die in one rotation when not unstoppable )
SW - seems weak related to All classes , don't know his mechanics so can't suggest but definitely need positive changes to balance
GF - this mode 6 boost to dmg , makes him beast , he will need little less dmg nerf ( only little ( 10%) , before u scream )
TR - the perma stealth path need to lower down , now can just stealth cap the whole time. about dmg complaints .. I think it's ok , his really big dmg encounters + daily ( shocking ex) is dodge-able, so with practice u can handle them , only the stealth cap is problem
My impressions
Ty
( t2 burning gear not elemental , purple artifacts and arti gear , rank 8-9 etc )
10 matches in the new event
6 wins - was fun
4 losses - 3 of them was fun
1 match against those pre made bug abusers guilds
don't need to go far , just take a look at the leaderboard .. U will see .. Sadly those are the guilds that also dominate a lot of this forum .. It's sad actually they call them self pro .. Make me laugh ..
A - it's computer game , not real sport , with all do respect
B- real PvP players ( like those in drider server , and Im Not Russian ) will fight clean and will not search glitches to use
C- real PvP players will search challenge , so they won't pre made against pugs .. And 99% of this server is pugs PvP
another notes for balance from this matches and a lot more others since mode 6 is out : ( been playing several classes )
* all notes speaking to the average between players , ofc there are players that u sometimes see in each class that are unkillable , godlike dmgers , but they not the average encounter players
op - tank op needed to tuned down defensively a bit ( his encounter powers bonuses in protection path, like temp hp too high )
HR - this stun root thing also need half sec less duration in each cycle so u will have a chance to dodge\ block the next one
CW - even with the nerf still do great dmg , so it's all good there
DC - the healer build can be insane .. But with good control .. He is manageable
GWF - dmg great , but very hard to win with him against ranged class , he will need some love in feats ( dmg resist bonuses so he won't die in one rotation when not unstoppable )
SW - seems weak related to All classes , don't know his mechanics so can't suggest but definitely need positive changes to balance
GF - this mode 6 boost to dmg , makes him beast , he will need little less dmg nerf ( only little ( 10%) , before u scream )
TR - the perma stealth path need to lower down , now can just stealth cap the whole time. about dmg complaints .. I think it's ok , his really big dmg encounters + daily ( shocking ex) is dodge-able, so with practice u can handle them , only the stealth cap is problem
My impressions
Ty
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I am a GF and I can tell you we don't need a nerf
We get killer trying to get to an opponent
Other than that .... what is "elemental Burning Armor?"
SS was not nerfed they only changed orange number to yellow.. So they are mostly at the same spot.
Steel and Magic
As reference, I only have 2,2k IL, and in last 20 matches, only premade I encountered was geared about the same as my pug (except for one of their cws who was clearly better geared than the rest), but we still managed to win that one.
As far as an analysis of the classes, pug experience is not really the right method to go about doing this. Since this is a gear-based pvp, balance should be based on BiS v BiS basis, so I'd prefer to leave such analysis to those type of players.
the matchmaking will s.uck again after the event ended
atm there are 10 times more player doing pvp, in my guild all go there, noone wnated to join eCC or anything, so all collecting coins as crazy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eD7zacG39I
explains it fairly well.
No one can claim is a pro at this game, the definition literally means getting paid to do it.
SW and GWF can't dodge SE. Nor can they reduce the damage otherwise. I was eating 75k+ executions yesterday on my GWF until I gave up and logged off in the middle of the match. Can't stand being so helpless.
Can't defend, can't attack, can't see. Is what TRs are.
There are 3 ways you can dodge a shocking as a GWF.
1: Sprint out of range
2: Mighty leap
3: Avalanche of steel
So only bis guys can comment ?
Have u read my A point ? It's just a game
Ev1 can give their opinion
The problem is players like u who think nerf to their class Is hurting them personally so they spread toxic words on forums when someone suggest honest change
"Qualify to make feedback" plz , it's sad
U can disagree with me .. But never judge ability to give feedback , that's just elitist sad move
Sorry for the harsh word but I'm afraid for your health if this game will be shut down
It's just a game after all
Btw - I fought as op tank as well , have 2.2 il with t1 PvP gear
And I could cap against 4 guys that were bombing me with dmg
So yes
less dmg resistance in feats and less temp hp is objective view as guy who fought with this class
Didn't want to hurt there
It's just a game in the term is not a job .. That's what I meant
It's for your free time
Persons who participate in real prizes money events in games - only them I think u can say it's more then just a game
It's also their income
But neverwinter don't have this events and will never have
So I'm still in my position it's just a game
I agree that balance need always be up to down
Starting from bis
But balance needed across all the line because the 99% is not bis
so feedback as not bis needed also
+ u need to realize that a lot of feedback u read at bis levels in those forums ( not all ofc ) are from people with interest to their main class they spend lots of money on , or from unfortunately those bug abusers guilds that it's never a fair fight and u can't determent balance based on dirty game
+
5 premade bis vs 5 premade bis match ? Rarely in this server
so yes think there is room for casual feedback
Maybe not 100% exciting pvp action, but it was a nice thing to do on their part and much appreciated.
1) You don't have the time to. May happen only accidentally
2) useless for 99% of the rest, plus you'll give up one encounter and get destroyed by at-will spam+piercing damage
3) it's a daily. Not a real dodge, it's not always available.
SWs and GWFs helplessness vs TR piercing execution is almost ******ed.
1. wrong imo, SE can´t be evaded, if casted on you standing in range, warlock can shift miles away and gets hit, like GWF
2. noone uses mighty leap, or am i wrong?
3. a daily, so tell me what you do ? keep your daly all time as a backup to cast it the moment you hear the sound of SE? taht would be too late
but thy for the creative comment
and get a gastric ulcer being forced to play with pugs
some really get out of control
IDC if I am losing... I won't leave a match.
I have not faced any premades... but I have had ungeared and out-gunned leave because they were did not know how to handle that.
You can't just start PvPing without ever having done it before. There are a lot of naive players entering the queues.
Lol
So how will they learn ?
enough of this eltist points
when I was starter here year something ago I queue also to dom matches when I only had pve gear and didn't know class mechanic very well
So ?
Now I know better
poor comment
you should never hose anyone else in your team... that is a given
Today I was in a queued group which actually beat a premade... cause they beat my team in the next game.
So it can be done, not likely but it can be done.
But I "just started PvPing" a while back...
To my knowledge there is no other way to do it
That said
Play to the end unless the team all agrees to give up and run out the clock
BTW if 2 players agree to 1V1, please let them do it and do not jump in.
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