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Does people offering 500 AD per Zen have priority over people that offer less?
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If I offer 400 AD per Zen or 500 AD per Zen it's equal in terms of execution time?
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It is on a different "waiting list". The problem is, currently, there are people who want to buy 2,5 million zen in total for 500 ad/zen. So it is a lot less likely that someone is going to sell his/her Zen for 400(or 499) when he can sell it for 500. So while it is on a different queue, one passively affects the other.
Who'd sell their Zen for eg. 400 AD when the demand is so obviously enormous? Were it not for the cap of 500 the prices would be downright obscene due to "seller's market".
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When you put up an offer on the zen shop to buy, it automatically fills out the order you placed IF it's available, or, it puts you on the 'waiting list'. There's no zen available right now because supply is not meeting demand, this means you get put on a waiting list.
If you're offering less than 500 AD per zen, it WILL NOT get filled. You CAN'T get it filled until ALL of the zen priced higher than yours is gone. Go ahead, try and offer zen for less than 500 AD apiece. You will get your order filled from the 500 AD pile and they will give you 500 AD apiece for it, no matter how low you try to price it.
The same thing would happen if you were buying zen. If there were AVAILABLE offers for zen (meaning more zen than AD on the market) at 500, 499, and 498, and you tried to buy them at 500 apiece (paying more than necessary), it would automatically fill your zen from the 498 pile, and refund you the extra AD you had offered.
You can't skip ahead in the queue if someone tries to offer zen for less than 500, and if you price your zen at anything lower than 500, you're putting yourself BEHIND that full queue as well.
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Except you don't KNOW there's no one with their zen on the market at 237 when you're trying to trade with your friend. People use the zen exchange to transfer AD by putting up low offers. Or, gold farmers could use their tons of accounts to put up offers for zen at ALL of the available prices, and wait for people to try and do this and steal their zen.
Regardless, Cryptic/PWE doesn't want people exchanging zen directly. If they wanted us to, they'd have given us a way to do so.
Exactly this. And it's to prevent exactly what the other poster was trying to do, because ultimately it will just be used by gold farmers to illegally move stolen, hacked and exploited AD.
The point is, every so often f2p players like myself need to buy things like character slots or respec tokens and it is a pain to have to wait 1 week or so when there is a friend of yours who is going to be selling zen for AD anyhow, who wouldn't mind trading with you. Bots can transfer AD between characters on one account anyhow and they can transfer AD indirectly between accounts via the AH, so making it possible to just trade these things directly between players isn't allowing them to do anything they weren't able to do in the first place. Also, I am fairly certain that bots wouldn't be transferring AD in strange amounts like 237 AD to 1 zen, they were programmed by people and all in all, people like round numbers not strange numbers so its safe to bet they will be transferring in multiples of 10, more then likely 100.
As someone who has been adamant about allowing zen to float, the real reason there is a backlog, is that MY real life money is WORTH way way WAY more then the capped amount and always will be.
People don't post zen all the time, because the return of value is pretty horrendous. Im NOT even sure who these people who are selling ANY zen!
BTW we dont need more AD sinks, dont even get me started.. ILL literally never have enough AD for IN game costing of items now.. if I play this game the rest of my life. Most of us simply DO not post our zen for sale.. because the rate of return is just horrendous and IT doesn't appear it will ever change.
We actually need to remove some AD sinks to make the game more favorable for newer players, they went to far to fast with that.
Directly exchange of AD through different account is not allowed for a good reason. It eliminates a way to buy AD from a 3rd party company (who can be your 'friend').
I'm imagining you can already accomplish the end goal you describe (Anna wants b, Bob wants a) here by trading in goods without using the Zax.
What's quicker than selling Zen at 500AD right now? If it's a philosophical/moral stance that's another thing of course.
If you have lot's of ZEN and cant make enough AD you're doing something wrong. Get about ~50 Character slots and lvl Leadership on each. Each character should be able to make about about 5k easily. After few months you gonna have tons of AD.
Many people come here to play as an hero character instead of an entrepreneur. I am not saying being an entrepreneur is wrong.
Hero needs sponsorship to continue his campaign. It can be from wallet, from the character's own effort, from farmer characters, etc.
I always buy 500ad per zen..
Anything else is not worth my money.
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not true, i accidentally sold zen @ 100, i got ~500 per zen, so it seems that orders fill starting at most expensive
Same experience. Was trying to move AD/Zen to diff char on account. Accidentally listed zen 50. But it sold for 500. Some kind of safety for people like me who cant read (or just simple/hastily made mistakes).
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That's partly because they listened to us. The community wanted more AD sinks because that was the reason people though was the cause of AD inflation and it turned out not to be the cause at all. Though of course more use for AD at the time wou;d've been useful, but the need for it was exaggerated and misplaced. Had the real cause been fixed earlier we'd probably not have a maxed out exchange now. There's already been people saying here that they wouldn't settle for less now. Yet on the xbox version it's incredibly low by comparison.