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Enemy Damage Resistance in Mod 6
abaddon523
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Developers mentioned that enemies would be getting higher damage resistance in Module 6. I was wondering if anyone had done some testing on how much DR enemies have. I've done some, but not an extensive amount. My results are as follows:
Level 71 mobs - 24.3% to 27% (depending on the enemy)
Dragons - 33%
Bosses (such as Severin in Tiamat) - 40%
This isn't an exhaustive list (obviously), but it is looking like PvE players will want at least 40% Armor Penetration in Mod 6. If anyone has more data it would be appreciated.
Level 71 mobs - 24.3% to 27% (depending on the enemy)
Dragons - 33%
Bosses (such as Severin in Tiamat) - 40%
This isn't an exhaustive list (obviously), but it is looking like PvE players will want at least 40% Armor Penetration in Mod 6. If anyone has more data it would be appreciated.
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all stats are getting nerfed in their curve EXCEPT armor pen, and hp. so those two are gold.
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Uhm, my lvl 70 CW has 59% ArPen without slotting any Darks.
At the end of the current stat curve, not Mod 6.
That is probably true at level 60, but not by the time you reach level 70. 40% will require about 4000 Armor Penetration. And if you already have that now on live then you're heavily overstacked in Armor Penetration.
Maybe, maybe not. If enemies only have 40% DR, then stacking your armor penetration up to 50% is a waste of stat points. There is a sweet spot where you should build to. Armor penetration over that isn't doing you any good. So it isn't the case that ALL offense slots should be Armor Penetration. Just up until you eliminate all of the enemy DR. That's the point of this post. Figure out what DR enemies have so I know how much Resistance Ignored I need.
I believe that was going to happen over the next few modules, not specifically this one. The highest I've seen so far is 40%. I'm curious if anyone has seen higher than that on preview.
It's not too hard to do. First you have to install Advanced Combat Tracker (ACT) and the Neverwinter Plug-in. Once you have that it's easy. Start a combat log in ACT and go fight some enemies. There's a column called "effectiveness" in ACT that shows what your attacks are being multiplied by.
So, for example, when I fought Severin I looked in ACT and saw my attacks were 88.6% effective. I looked at my character sheet and saw I had 28.6% Resistance Ignored from Armor Penetration. So 88.6 - 28.6 = 60%. Meaning the effectiveness of my attacks is reduced by 40% when fighting him if I have no Armor Penetration. To make it easier on yourself don't use any debuffing attacks or equipment (like High Vizier set, High Prophet set, Plague Fire enchantments, etc.). To double check yourself unequip everything but a weapon (so you have as little armor penetration as possible) and throw out one attack on a target and see what "effectiveness" it has. It should line up with your initial calculation.
Edit: it is also possible to deduce this without ACT. First have the combat logs show up in your chat window. Then when you do damage compare the number in parenthesis with the actual damage number. Divide the damage by the number in parenthesis to get the effectiveness. So, taking an example from my signature, 1630182/533765 = 305.4% effectiveness. Meaning lots of debuffs were going on when that happened.
If I had no armor penetration when I fought Severin the combat log would read something like:
"Your Magic Missile deals 600 (1000) arcane damage to Severin."
I dont know exactly but some mobs in IWD and WotD have almost 40% some of them have 24-27.
Maybe it is my character witch is bugged, but that is what I see.
Every level between 61 and 70 has different curves. They get more and more harsh as you level up. 2962 will give you about 29% at level 70.
But anyway, that's not a big deal. If a character using lvl60 items with only main hand and belt green artifact with only 1 T3 and 2 T2 artifacts can reach "about 29%", or even less, at lvl70, then just some upgrade to the equipment and that should be fine.
Also remember that some class can reduce the target's armor thanks to their encounters/at-will, like DC and TR. So, even less problems in groups.
What about this ?
They're describing the level 70 curves. That post says nothing about the curves from level 61-69. Don't take my word for it: gain a level. Write down your damage gained from power, your crit %, Resistance Ignored, etc before you gain it. Then compare it with after you gain a level. You'll see a difference. HP is the only thing that will improve. The rest will get worse.
Why feel bad for a class who can pounce and destroy packs before they can act...?
... and when the dummies show the correct/expected effectiveness at a certain % of RI then we have the soft cap? (44%)
...gonna test this^^