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MOD6: BiS Total Upgrade Supplies & Cost
zeusom
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For Mod 5 I posted an estimation of the total cost to a Module 5 fully maxed best in slot toon from scratch (about ~120 million AD give or take 20 million). Most people found that post useful and basically valid. This post is an estimate of how much more to add to that figure to reach the new BiS/max in Mod6 assuming already Mod5 best in slot maxed..
Noone has to max out a toon to enjoy the game . That is ridiculous to think. The old adage goes enjoy the journey more than the destination. This post for useful reference/information summary only on what is needed to go from best in slot maxed mod5 to BiS maxed mod6. Based on what is on preview now and could change before launch but probably won't. If you have any strong disagreements with these numbers, read the fine print assumptions at bottom, that might cover it.
TOTAL ESTIMATE UPGRADE BiS Mod5 -> BiS Mod6: 75,000,000 AD
TOTAL ESTIMATE from scratch to BiS Mod6: 190,000,000 AD
(120,000,000 AD from scratch to BiS Mod5, see linked post)
COMPANIONS
5x Purple to Orange pet upgrades..........5,000,000 AD
ARTIFACTS & ARTIFACT EQUIPMENT
Artifact 4....................................................0 AD (or could be up to 11 million)
Artifact Weapon..........................................0 AD (Mod 6 dragon chest)
Artifact Offhand..........................................0 AD(Mod 6 quest)
Offhand Stat/Class rolls (Cubes of Aug).........500,000 AD (estimate, varies a whole lot)
Artifact Cloak............................................0 AD (Mod 6 Linu)
Artifact Belt.............................................. 0 AD (Mod 6 Linu)
ARTIFACT UPGRADES
3x Artifacts Upgrade Orange to Mythic............19,866,000 RP, 15 GMOP, 60 pres ward, 18 purple marks
1x Artifact Upgrade Green to Mythic...............10,472,000 RP, 10 GMOP, 30 pres ward, 8 purple mark
[Each L100 to L140 need 6,622,000 RP, 5 GMoP, 6 purple marks, 20 pres ward]
ARTIFACT EQUIPMENT UPGRADES
Refinement of 4x Artifact Equipments...........11,290,000 RP, 48 pres ward, 12 blue mark, 12 purple mark
[Assume put L60 orange into new L70 to get 1,822,800 (40%) RP back. Strongly recommend to do during 2x RP]
ENCHANTMENT UPGRADES
17 enchants on main, 2 weap/armor enchants, 9 enchants on augment pet (optional)
Upgrade 28 Enchantments (R10 to R12).......47,900,000 RP, 280 GMOP, 84 blue&purple mark, 1040 pres ward, 4 coal wards (for a weapon and armor enchant, 2 each)
OTHER
4 Major Armor Reinforcement kits...........400,000 AD
New stuff ???????.................................??????? AD
GRAND TOTALS SUPPLIES/RPs
78,235,000 RP in enchants/thaumstones.....................24,000,000 AD
11,289,000 RP in refinestones/gear............................5,600,000 AD
305 GMOP...............................................................30,500,00 AD
1,180 Preservation ward............................................7,000,000 AD (need will vary alot, based on 6k each)
4 Coalescent ward....................................................2,000,000 AD (2 each for armor and weapon enchant)
5 Pet Upgrade Epic to Legendary................................5,000,000 AD
4 Major Armor Reinforcement kit................................400,000 AD
122 Purple mark......................................................300,000 AD (or something like)
96 Blue mark...........................................................300,000 AD (or something like)
TOTAL form BiS mod5 to BiS mod6.............................75,000,000 AD (rough estimate)
The breakdown is based on starting from best in slot and maxed mod 5 toon. If starting from scratch, add at least 100 million AD for mod5 BiS (see mod5 post referenced up top). This breakdown assumes no additional artifact purchases, assumes that new artifact equipment is gotten for free, that already have the pets/companions you want, and the new gear you get will come free. But, it assumes the use of an augment pet meaning 9x additional enchants to be upgraded which might augment not be BiS in Mod 6.. without the extra 9 enchants on an augment cost will be lower some since only have 19 not 28 enchantments to upgrade
*Does not include many other common costs such as fashion, pet runestones, character slots, bank slots, rerolls, special packs, etc. Number of pres wards needed is based on %chance upgrade (20 for a 5% upgrade).
*RP cost prices based on current price of 95,000 AD for stack of 99x Peridot and 8,000 AD stacks of rank 4
*Refinement prices are without using 2x RP weekends and without using of feeder artifacts which can much lower rp cost
*Refinement needs shown DO assume using the right type of enchant (radiants for radiant for double points, although this is not practical for enchants like tenebrous).
This for information and a useful reference post only.
Hope is useful, all the best
ps. If someone want to start cold and whip out a credit card at zenstore to get everything-maxed toon all bells and whistles, they'd be looking at around $5,000 USD for mod6.
Noone has to max out a toon to enjoy the game . That is ridiculous to think. The old adage goes enjoy the journey more than the destination. This post for useful reference/information summary only on what is needed to go from best in slot maxed mod5 to BiS maxed mod6. Based on what is on preview now and could change before launch but probably won't. If you have any strong disagreements with these numbers, read the fine print assumptions at bottom, that might cover it.
TOTAL ESTIMATE UPGRADE BiS Mod5 -> BiS Mod6: 75,000,000 AD
TOTAL ESTIMATE from scratch to BiS Mod6: 190,000,000 AD
(120,000,000 AD from scratch to BiS Mod5, see linked post)
COMPANIONS
5x Purple to Orange pet upgrades..........5,000,000 AD
ARTIFACTS & ARTIFACT EQUIPMENT
Artifact 4....................................................0 AD (or could be up to 11 million)
Artifact Weapon..........................................0 AD (Mod 6 dragon chest)
Artifact Offhand..........................................0 AD(Mod 6 quest)
Offhand Stat/Class rolls (Cubes of Aug).........500,000 AD (estimate, varies a whole lot)
Artifact Cloak............................................0 AD (Mod 6 Linu)
Artifact Belt.............................................. 0 AD (Mod 6 Linu)
ARTIFACT UPGRADES
3x Artifacts Upgrade Orange to Mythic............19,866,000 RP, 15 GMOP, 60 pres ward, 18 purple marks
1x Artifact Upgrade Green to Mythic...............10,472,000 RP, 10 GMOP, 30 pres ward, 8 purple mark
[Each L100 to L140 need 6,622,000 RP, 5 GMoP, 6 purple marks, 20 pres ward]
ARTIFACT EQUIPMENT UPGRADES
Refinement of 4x Artifact Equipments...........11,290,000 RP, 48 pres ward, 12 blue mark, 12 purple mark
[Assume put L60 orange into new L70 to get 1,822,800 (40%) RP back. Strongly recommend to do during 2x RP]
ENCHANTMENT UPGRADES
17 enchants on main, 2 weap/armor enchants, 9 enchants on augment pet (optional)
Upgrade 28 Enchantments (R10 to R12).......47,900,000 RP, 280 GMOP, 84 blue&purple mark, 1040 pres ward, 4 coal wards (for a weapon and armor enchant, 2 each)
OTHER
4 Major Armor Reinforcement kits...........400,000 AD
New stuff ???????.................................??????? AD
GRAND TOTALS SUPPLIES/RPs
78,235,000 RP in enchants/thaumstones.....................24,000,000 AD
11,289,000 RP in refinestones/gear............................5,600,000 AD
305 GMOP...............................................................30,500,00 AD
1,180 Preservation ward............................................7,000,000 AD (need will vary alot, based on 6k each)
4 Coalescent ward....................................................2,000,000 AD (2 each for armor and weapon enchant)
5 Pet Upgrade Epic to Legendary................................5,000,000 AD
4 Major Armor Reinforcement kit................................400,000 AD
122 Purple mark......................................................300,000 AD (or something like)
96 Blue mark...........................................................300,000 AD (or something like)
TOTAL form BiS mod5 to BiS mod6.............................75,000,000 AD (rough estimate)
The breakdown is based on starting from best in slot and maxed mod 5 toon. If starting from scratch, add at least 100 million AD for mod5 BiS (see mod5 post referenced up top). This breakdown assumes no additional artifact purchases, assumes that new artifact equipment is gotten for free, that already have the pets/companions you want, and the new gear you get will come free. But, it assumes the use of an augment pet meaning 9x additional enchants to be upgraded which might augment not be BiS in Mod 6.. without the extra 9 enchants on an augment cost will be lower some since only have 19 not 28 enchantments to upgrade
*Does not include many other common costs such as fashion, pet runestones, character slots, bank slots, rerolls, special packs, etc. Number of pres wards needed is based on %chance upgrade (20 for a 5% upgrade).
*RP cost prices based on current price of 95,000 AD for stack of 99x Peridot and 8,000 AD stacks of rank 4
*Refinement prices are without using 2x RP weekends and without using of feeder artifacts which can much lower rp cost
*Refinement needs shown DO assume using the right type of enchant (radiants for radiant for double points, although this is not practical for enchants like tenebrous).
This for information and a useful reference post only.
Hope is useful, all the best
ps. If someone want to start cold and whip out a credit card at zenstore to get everything-maxed toon all bells and whistles, they'd be looking at around $5,000 USD for mod6.
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simply insane, im gald to see that you posted this. and i'd love to see what the devs have to say about it.
CORE UPGRADES; MOST RP-EFFICIENT WAY POSSIBLE
Weapon/Armor enchant................Use shards of same type during 2xRP for 16x bonus (8640 RP each shard)
13 Off/Def enchants.....................Use stacks of enchant of the same type during 2x RP for 4x bonus
3 Artifacts from 100 to 140...........Use free (glory) L59 feeder artifacts during 2xRP for 10x bonus
1 Artifact from 1 to 140................Use free (glory) L59 feeder artifacts during 2xRP for 10x bonus
4 New artifact equipment.............Use L60 orange during 2x RP for 4x bonus (3,757.728 RP)
TOTAL SUPPLIES NEEDED (Core upgrades)
99 Weapon enchant shards...............................cost varies
99 Armor enchant shards..................................cost varies
23 free feeder artifacts of matching type.............0 AD (Glory farming, though unrealistic to get 20+)
7,250,000 RP for the 4 artifacts..........................1,100,000 AD (ex. 136 stacks of r4 enchants of any type)
22,239,000 RP for 13 core enchants...................3,295,000 AD (ex. 416 stacks of r4 enchants of matching type)
3,551,000 RP for 4 artifact equipment................3,400,000 AD (ex. 36 stacks of peridot for 95k each right now)
170 GMOPs....................................................17,000,000 AD
640+ Pres Ward (average)................................3,840,000 AD
4 coal wards...................................................2,000,000 AD
blue and purple marks
4 Major Armor Reinforcement kits.......400,000 AD
Then... TOTAL is still about 31,000,000 AD.
Because over half the cost is the 17million for the 170 GMOP that is hardcoded. That's for the core stuff that will matter in PvP.
Farming all that glory for over 20 feeders is not really practical, but the RP costs for the artifacts can be lowered a whole lot by using them. RP costs for enchants will prob go down too.
Sopi SW Youtube channel pvp brickabrack
...but that'll probaby only be a few million AD
/sarcasm
Nice work. Maybe a few more ppl will get the message.
so far my character cost me twice as much as a salvaged car would cost to buy.
I don't see myself spending more on this game anytime soon.
Mostly because I took all this time to build my character, giving it 3100 regeneration, and now that does not even serve me any purpose in combat.
Imagine spending years to get a degree in life from a respected school of study, then two months after you graduate, your degree is worthless.
That one is easy...
...I recommend a liberal arts branch, and to be absolutely 100% sure do it at a law or tech oriented college.
I really don't care how expensive they make BIS as long as pve difficulty is scaled to character progression and there are pvp gear brackets. Someone wants to spend ten grand on the game, god bless em. As long as there is challenging but doable pve content, and competitive pvp content at lower cost ranges, all the way down to totally free. Because after all, it is supposed to be free to play. Minus the parity in pvp and do-able pve content for lesser geared players, free to pay is a lie and becomes straight pay to win. We'll see where they go with this.
TY for this, I now am in negotiations with Bank of America for a loan.
This game suddenly feels like space cadet ;D
funny because I worked with the school district (before they lay offs) doesn't work bro doesn't work...
tech for sure won't work..
On live, you can already get something really good for 20 to 30M ADs. You don't need a perfect armor enchantment, rank 10s are overrated (8-9 is enough), you kinda need 5 purple pets, but many of them will be at epic level (like the rust monster), you don't really need orange artifacts, lvl 75 ones are good enough, only your primary one may go to orange eventually. Your big purchase will be the perfect weapon enchantment. This one is a big deal and it's a major, if not critical, upgrade. A purple main hand will do fine until a double RP weekend too.
That 75.000.000 / 500 = 150.000 Zen, thats roughly 3000 Euros. If anyone really spents that kind of money, then by all means, more power to them
Ask Goldman Sachs. Once there's enough zeroes to the figure they lose their sense for risk assessment...
...yeah?
And re. tech: Sorry, muddled wording on my side: Study arts at a law school or polytech.
And when you look at what people really do then, this is a completely different story. E.g. former fellow student of mine, PhD in classical history, works as Shift Supervisor at McD...
with that much money i can buy the games with first 3 letters of the alphabet on steam.
Only the augment as only the active slotted pet gives the bonus.
I'm pretty much BiS everything right now...but I've been playing for two years. I've spent money, but mostly on sales stuff, mounts and some cosmetics...stuff I like to help support the game. I don't have R10's on my character simply because the cost doesn't pay for the benefit. Full R10's? Millions of AD for almost no effect...about a 1% difference in damage.
So also keep that in mind. What's being calculated can also be seen as "What's the absolute MOST AD I can spend on a character?"
Think of it this way. It's the 80/20 rule. You can get to 80% effectiveness by spending 20%. That other 20% (to get BiS) is going to cost you 80% more, and even then, it's exponential. Every 1% increase in power past that is going to cost you exponentially more. So the absolute difference in power between someone with a character "worth" 10M AD and a character "worth" 100M AD isn't a big as you would expect.
Can someone clarify this for me how exactly do you get main hand artifact weapon... dragon chest as per dragonforged artifact chest from ToD campaign ???
Yes, that task. Also you'll can get the main hand finishing Spinward Rise
What is that spinward rise you speak of ? is that quest ?
It's one of the new areas in mod 6
Yai
If someone want to start cold and whip out a credit card at zenstore to get everything-maxed toon all bells and whistles, they'd be looking at around $5,000 USD for mod6. Okay something to think about I can see why so many games are going to free to play.Charging someone $15 a month to play and make $180 a year off them or sell them stuff so they can hang with the best in end game. All I can say is thank you to the people that will pay that kind of money so I can play free.I want be seeing any of you at end game because my gear score or what ever tool you shall use to judge me will be to high .So I shall just go as far as I can get and wait for this cash cow to end.Good Luck. Free to play worst idea ever to the player base but cant blame them for milking the ones that they can.:o
A. People calling for "more AD sinks" are just ludicrous and has been for quite awhile, they need to reduce AD costs, not increase them. Im so sorry if you dont get zen instantly in the store.. spend money if you want items, stop adding AD costs to the game by insane AD sink demands.
B. THEY need to release a more casual PVP arena, I did thousands of matches on my CW,TR, DC, HR, GWF (skipped it with my sw and gf.. sw is weak and GF IS NOT my cup of tea) in mods 1,2,3 and some of 4. But I cant compete, I cant come close to the insanity that comes with playing at top level. Once upon a time, I was within (scratching distance) in mod 2/3, but its gone insane. I think there ARE many more people who would rather just play pvp at a decent level.
C. Just stop adding more RP levels on things.. please.
My goal is #1 pure weapon enchants then I will get a smattering of 9/10s on a few toons. Screw the rest of it.