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gwf - takedown - why such low damage?
rotatorkuf
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first of all, it does garbage damage for a stun
why did they remove the prone AND nerf the damage?
it's such a useless ability right now
am i beating a dead horse? is this something i should move off, have the devs pretty much left this ability in the dust?
even with the 25% damage boost feat, it does garbage damage, compared to what's available on other classes, even the GF
i don't get it, someone explain this to me please lol, why the hate on this ability? i can understand removing the prone, but the damage is....yuck
also, reaping strike, most worthless at-will in game?
why did they remove the prone AND nerf the damage?
it's such a useless ability right now
am i beating a dead horse? is this something i should move off, have the devs pretty much left this ability in the dust?
even with the 25% damage boost feat, it does garbage damage, compared to what's available on other classes, even the GF
i don't get it, someone explain this to me please lol, why the hate on this ability? i can understand removing the prone, but the damage is....yuck
also, reaping strike, most worthless at-will in game?
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his logic. yet he nerfs the damage too lol.
Red text is a HUGE lie too.
surprised nobody called him out on that..
Guardian Fighter main. I will never switch to Paladin even if we're a dying breed. GF for ever!
Main alts: Great Weapon Fighter, Control Wizard.
yeah, it still makes no sense to me why even the GF gets better damage from their abilities than does the GWF
and a prone from bull charge
GWF is such an ugly red headed stepchild class
my biggest beef with how GWFs have been handeled is this
our encounters can miss... I dont mean oh someone dodged my Indomitable battle strike no flat out miss as in I hit the button a second too early and whoops now its on CD does any other class have that? do we have any attack that isnt an AOE that auto tracks? lashing blade if it is in range will always hit unless it its dodged CW attacks you cant even use if you aren't in range with LOS and they never miss same with 80% of the HR encounters same with SW you get a must have target warning. do we get that? no we get oops you bumped a wrong button? heres your 10-13 second cooldown sorry about your luck (3 seconds if it was a takedown but hoestly who uses takedown anyomore)
you can see the lack of respect the GWF gets in this game just by the forums we are the ONLY class that has to share forums with another class. we are in their eyes GF light dont like carrying a shield? want a a bit more moblilty? try GF light! <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> dps nerfed survivabilty yay!!
no one in my guild really plays GWF anymore except me because to get even remotely decent and an effective member of your group you have to have at least a 18k gs and with all the grind it takes to get there nobody wants to undertake that hill climb.
I am not saying an 18k gs gwf should do the same damage as an 18k SW or CW ect but we shoudnt be half their dps maybe like 5-10% less not 50-60%
yeah man, great weapon fighter could use a rework the likes of the DC/TR reworks
it's just such an old class compared to the other classes, they keep bumping up damage here and there, but that's just band aids on a much larger issue
fact #1 is how easy it is to avoid the GWFs damage*cough IBS cough*, as already low as it is
people will come in here and say "gwf is fine, l2play", but those are the kids with 24k GWFS beating up on 16ks, ofc they're fine in that scenario, what class isn't
That can go both ways.
For months, actually for nearly a year, the GF was the lesser Fighter and by some margin. GWFs got the GF's Paragon and were doing insane things with them that not even the GF could. Remember those PVP IV Sents, taking on entire teams at once? Destroyers Spamming Threatening Rush so they could sit on any class like a rash and then spamming the hell out of reduced cooldown Takedown and Roar? You just could not escape GWFs and when a Destroyer caught you they had massive amounts of CC and burst damage. Both Destroyers and Sentinels could out-tank a Protector as well.
But yes, the massive class rework hit the GWF hard. Some of it was necessary, but not to the extent they were reworked.
*I have both Fighters and I have played both Fighters at their highs and lows.
in both directions
they nerf a class with the power of 10,000 suns, leave it alone, and buff another class to the same ridiculous but OPposite level
it's mind boggling
I agree, that is why I said ''Some of it was necessary, but not to the extent they were reworked.''
Example; GWFs, at least the Destroyer, needed to lose some of their tankiness. They had too many bases covered; massive DPS and more survivability than a GF. But yes, it went in the extreme as they took a double hit in both areas instead of a re-work in just one.
Its not mind boggling, its called a "free to play" business model. They give us major incentive to build up a new class every few months to keep revenue up. Rinse and repeat
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I didn't imagine it. I have both fighters and PVP with both of them, when they were both good and when they were both bad. Common knowledge that a Mod 3 GWF's Unstoppable was infinitely better than it is now if you are anything but a Sentinel. Unstoppable was not only tankier but it kicked in a lot earlier than it does now, so you did not have to be nearly dead before you could use it.
Also, HR still has a Prone.
I agree. Same model as retail products.