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[Imbalance] Shocking Execution bugged!
dukasmor
Member Posts: 6 Arc User
Hey Guys,
I am an excessive pvp player, max geared. I am playing premades for over a year. I am around since beta and have played every class in pvp (except SW). I am not a whiner, and I dont want to nerf a class. But there are issues that have to be solved, NOW!
Pls dont write in this thread if you just have to say "L2p" "get gear" ....
Shocking Execution: It ignores almost every defense mechanic, like tenacity, DR and so on. Its ridiculous. Its not a minor bug or issue. Its GAMEBREAKING! My TR can hit for over 40k (against BiS pvp players), while having 5k less gs than my opponent.
It also cant be dodged, basically! Despite the claims of some inexpirienced players, a decent TR will use shocking execution only if the target is dazed (= defenseless). The initial daze can also NOT be dodged! Why? Simple, the activation time is too fast. Not to speak about the auto proccing from feats or daze from stealth (SS).... Short: If a TR wants to daze you, he is able to do so; daze = defenseless = target of shocking execution = minus 20k-40k hp in one not dodgeable attack.
At very high gear levels, a TR has a daily every 20-30 seconds ready, sometimes even faster (depending on playstyle and minor build differences)
Fix: Basically shocking is the hardest hitting daily power in the game, with 100% piercing dmg. Because it is bugged and SHOULD NEVER IGNORE ALL DEFENSES OR RESISTANCES!
Discuss!
I am an excessive pvp player, max geared. I am playing premades for over a year. I am around since beta and have played every class in pvp (except SW). I am not a whiner, and I dont want to nerf a class. But there are issues that have to be solved, NOW!
Pls dont write in this thread if you just have to say "L2p" "get gear" ....
Shocking Execution: It ignores almost every defense mechanic, like tenacity, DR and so on. Its ridiculous. Its not a minor bug or issue. Its GAMEBREAKING! My TR can hit for over 40k (against BiS pvp players), while having 5k less gs than my opponent.
It also cant be dodged, basically! Despite the claims of some inexpirienced players, a decent TR will use shocking execution only if the target is dazed (= defenseless). The initial daze can also NOT be dodged! Why? Simple, the activation time is too fast. Not to speak about the auto proccing from feats or daze from stealth (SS).... Short: If a TR wants to daze you, he is able to do so; daze = defenseless = target of shocking execution = minus 20k-40k hp in one not dodgeable attack.
At very high gear levels, a TR has a daily every 20-30 seconds ready, sometimes even faster (depending on playstyle and minor build differences)
Fix: Basically shocking is the hardest hitting daily power in the game, with 100% piercing dmg. Because it is bugged and SHOULD NEVER IGNORE ALL DEFENSES OR RESISTANCES!
Discuss!
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damage should probably be scaled in pvp though.
...moving dodges Shocking Execution? You can dodge while you're dazed? Stop defending your broken dazes.
I don't think Shocking Execution is necessarily "bugged" atm, but I think it shouldn't go through defense mechanisms, and should definitely be affected by tenacity at the very least, and probably deflect too. If anything, I think SE should be affected by any sort of damage resistance stats (DR, tenacity, deflect), but at the 20-30% HP mark (depending on rank), will no longer be affected by any of those stats.
if it would respect all defenses it would loose its primary purpose.
Not to speak for them but I read what ralexinor was saying to be that it would only ignore defenses when the target is at the low health threshold - making it an execute skill - but not bypass defenses all the time.
No on dodge, I have been talking to people on other things so much telling them to move/dodge that I have that fused in my brain and it has become an automatic response now. One can still move, though, but that will not be sufficient and I don't think the ******ed jumping exploitation interferes with SE (I don't have SE). Still daze has naught to do with SE and I am not defending dazes in general except to those people who get dazed and just stand stationary and cry.
Lies and more lies. Lashingblade can, not SE
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This.
Tired of people saying you can dodge SE. If you're regularly dodging a TR's SE, they should probably re-roll, because it's really not hard to make sure the target is dazed before you SE. Also tired of people saying that it's called "Shocking Execution"... I guess the other classes just got unlucky with the names of their dailies.
SE is basically an almost guaranteed one-shot from the most difficult class to kill on a node. Like I've said elsewhere, it SHOULD hit hard... but it should probably at least respect some degree of tenacity so that the class doesn't automatically win every 1v1 in the game, while ALSO out-lasting every other class in a 2+v1 when all things are equal.
Hey there Mr. maxed out PVPer, just a question. You do know that for SE to hit "that" hard it needs to be activated from stealth and to be the opening attack right? So, if the target is dazed then SE does not get first attack bonus, nor it gets 25% DR ignored, nor it gets 100% Power increase... you get the point ? Its true, an exec can hitkill you with his first strike but what you wrote up there smells more like clueless whining in the general direction of the TR than educated opinion.
Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, Life is but a dream.
Now the funniest part, all these 40-50k SE numbers are coming from sabos without firststrike and any exe feats ( but the 15% critseverity one)
Also SE ignores DR anyway...
have a nice day
Like mouz said, it's not hard for TR to hit for 40k+ SEs without first strike. A 16k gs TR can do it with the right build.
Now exe is a whole other build with its own crazy issues...
Look man, I should think it goes without saying that TRs are problematic. When a 12-16K rogue can match a 20K+ class in a fight and win then something is wrong. That 16.4 scoundrel can end anyone who fails to avoid the dazes. However Im not in favor of bogus reports, people are saying things like " the TR perma dazed me and 1hit killed me from perma stealth" en masse. That is just as wrong as piercing damage being in the game.
Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, Life is but a dream.
Im not playin a rogue in order to max him out, I main a GWF and just wanted to see for myself how rogues work. If a daily is up during the +50% damage boost from cc of course Id use it and If its not I wont. Simple enough ? The 'stalking, bet-it-all on 1 hit then vanish in stealth' gameplay is not for me anyway.
Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, Life is but a dream.
Dr from unstoppable, feat, sprint, tenacity and chance to deflect should be there.
Period.
Anything else is nonsense blabbering of TRs who want easy mode 1-shots.
Or they are really that bad at playing that they really need such broken stuff to compete.
Tank killer....what rogue/assassin is supposed to focus a tank? That's just a joke.
WTB Class Reroll please
Is still dodgable, it can be blocked by gf, it can be reduced by cw shield but why a gwf/sw sprinting/unstoppable/sprinting unstoppable have to take full damage?
That s a bug of course and should be fixed
It should also oneshot people with full HP, no matter what the class is.
WTB Class Reroll please
yeah people are used to mod 4 tr doing 27 rotations to kill a tank with much less gear