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Neverwinter Human Population?

borrowedtime1borrowedtime1 Member Posts: 131 Bounty Hunter
edited November 2014 in General Discussion (PC)
http://steamcharts.com/app/109600
Is this an accurate statistic on people playing Neverwinter? or it isn't because this only tracks ones who launch from Steam?


I was just kinda amazed how Rift (http://steamcharts.com/app/39120) which seems more polished (but I still choose Neverwinter over it due to personal preference) has only half the players.
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  • tcarncetcarnce Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 976 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    i prefer pwe over trion at this time, and probably forever.
    trion couldn`t have done more wrong in publishing AA.
    but my questline is bugged in neverwinter so it`s not realy exciting for me to play.
    can`t continue campaign through mod 4 ones so mod 5 is useless then too.

    guess those are only people through steam.
  • koalazebra1koalazebra1 Member Posts: 1,173 Bounty Hunter
    edited November 2014
    only from steam i guessed. I neither use arc or steam just straight up logging in lol.
  • eldartheldarth Member Posts: 4,494 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Doesn't anybody actually read text anymore?
    From the very top of the page...

    "An ongoing analysis of Steam's player numbers."
  • ortzhyortzhy Member Posts: 1,103 Bounty Hunter
    edited November 2014
    It is a fair indicator nonetheless! What i read from it is: people log in to see the new content and leave the game in a month with a constant decline over time... I feel that in game as well as everyone else!

    We did provide all the feedback we could but the recent class balance changes, lack of foundry support, lack of bug fixes or items/skills updates, artifacts on top of artifacts shows that they rly dont get it... i have seen this silly decision making behavior in games before and all ended up in the trash can more or less.

    Is just funny how history repeats itself over and over...
  • henry404henry404 Member Posts: 690 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I would really like to know accurate figures for players in the game but I don't think the Steam thing can give us much indication. Steam is not the "main" way to play the game. The "official" way is with ARC, and that is what you get when you download from the official site. Plus, and this is very important, some of the Zen bonuses do not apply to Steam accounts. And none of this takes account of players who only use ARC/Steam to download the game and then just run the game outside of those environments. That's what I do. It's quicker and cleaner. I only use ARC when I have a new promo code.

    And, ortzhy, please don't turn this into yet another whiny hate thread. There are plenty of those already.
  • ortzhyortzhy Member Posts: 1,103 Bounty Hunter
    edited November 2014
    henry404 wrote: »
    snip

    well if you are happy with what it is so be it, but i;m not and when a thread like this pops up with actual data i just cant help myself to point out the flaws of this game in the hope that maybe someone reads and does something to solve them...
  • ironzerg79ironzerg79 Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,942 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    To be fair, if you look at a lot of Steam games, there's an initial crush when it first launches, then dwindles down to a base population.

    In fact, that curve looks pretty good for ANY MMO. That's not bad to be cranking along on a platform at about 50% of the original max population. And since launching on Steam, it's fluctuation up and down between 3k and 4k players, which makes sense for a F2P game that's easy to jump in and out of.
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  • kittykaboomboomkittykaboomboom Member Posts: 141 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    tcarnce wrote: »
    i prefer pwe over trion at this time, and probably forever.
    trion couldn`t have done more wrong in publishing AA.
    but my questline is bugged in neverwinter so it`s not realy exciting for me to play.
    can`t continue campaign through mod 4 ones so mod 5 is useless then too.

    guess those are only people through steam.
    similar problem, I'm stuck at first day of mod 5,since i have managed to lase a mission. Don't finish first ays, you don't get any more dailies. soall i can do is try and do the dragon races.
  • angryspriteangrysprite Member Posts: 4,982 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    eldarth wrote: »
    Doesn't anybody actually read text anymore?
    From the very top of the page...

    "An ongoing analysis of Steam's player numbers."

    That and the URL is "Steam Charts". LOL
  • mrgiggles651mrgiggles651 Member Posts: 790 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    ironzerg79 wrote: »
    To be fair, if you look at a lot of Steam games, there's an initial crush when it first launches, then dwindles down to a base population.

    In fact, that curve looks pretty good for ANY MMO. That's not bad to be cranking along on a platform at about 50% of the original max population. And since launching on Steam, it's fluctuation up and down between 3k and 4k players, which makes sense for a F2P game that's easy to jump in and out of.
    Neverwinter came to Steam in December 2013, as a result it doesn't have the crush/drop because the game had already been out for six months.
    I wasted five million AD promoting the Foundry.
  • zebularzebular Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 15,270 Community Moderator
    edited November 2014
    It's not accurate for the game as a whole, no. It's not even accurate for "steam" users because even after using Steam to install the game, one does not need to run Steam to play the game. Therefore, not all steam users are even accounted for in such statistics. You don't even need Steam to run Rift, even if installed through Steam, so even Steam's stats for Rift are inaccurate as a source of proper analysis.
  • damnataanimusdamnataanimus Member Posts: 446 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    zebular wrote: »
    It's not accurate for the game as a whole, no. It's not even accurate for "steam" users because even after using Steam to install the game, one does not need to run Steam to play the game. Therefore, not all steam users are even accounted for in such statistics. You don't even need Steam to run Rift, even if installed through Steam, so even Steam's stats for Rift are inaccurate as a source of proper analysis.

    Also if your steam is anything like mine, it doesn't count you as being in game when you are for w.e reason. Though it does show me as being in game when I start the launcher till the client starts, then I'm not playing it according to steam - so not sure whether that would count as someone playing or not.
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  • d4rthd00fusd4rthd00fus Member Posts: 453 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    The only data this chart is useful for is to show the ebb and flow of players of the game. Its possible to tie spikes in player numbers to new content being released and sharp drops when that content fails to meet player expectations or after short sighted decisions made by PWE management cause players to migrate to other games. PWE has access to all this data and uses it to decide how to steer the game and where to best put resources. Based on the numbers here they may have to rethink some of their strategies.
  • ortzhyortzhy Member Posts: 1,103 Bounty Hunter
    edited November 2014
    zebular wrote: »
    It's not accurate for the game as a whole, no. It's not even accurate for "steam" users because even after using Steam to install the game, one does not need to run Steam to play the game. Therefore, not all steam users are even accounted for in such statistics. You don't even need Steam to run Rift, even if installed through Steam, so even Steam's stats for Rift are inaccurate as a source of proper analysis.

    Do you have PWE data?! Cause i;m willing to bet you dont! From my point of view you are a blind man telling people that what they dont know what they are seeing...

    i make you another bet: The pwe data is following the same path with what you are seeing here.. call it magic!
  • m1nuendm1nuend Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Yeah, it wasn't on Steam when I first started playing. And when I reinstalled it on a new PC I didn't think of Steam, so I use ARC now. I'd prefer using steam, though, probably wont be using ARC for anything else and I just dislike when various companies and what not decides to have their own clients. I don't want 30 clients for 40 games...
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