Please empower the poor ranger in PVP!!!!!

mauriziob · October 2014

-Possibility of dodge/shift infinite
-Damage inflicted against enemies very high
-Ability to heal completely in a few seconds

How can we strengthen the ranger?

What do you think of the key "kill enemy" as at will?

notsheriffsrs · October 2014

I agree, it needs a buff imo.

Even DC can stay toe to toe with it... wth??

yuccapalm · October 2014

They need more utility. dazz, aoe, range/melee, gap closer/escape, invis, prone, dodge for whole party is not enough. Paired with the somewhat ok surviveabillity(wilds medicine needs buff) and the encounter damage which needs to be toned up + fox shift needs to be spammable again! the class could finally shine.

aderonz · October 2014

i couldn't agree more , Archery and trapper trees need some buffs to be viable in PVP

norsemanx · October 2014

Queue dead horse beating.

mareatlanticum · October 2014

NO! Don't buff Ranger or Warlock, NERF every other class instead, but if you decide to buff:

Ranger needs:
- More Armor penetration. It kinda feels the tanks still have some armor left.
- More DPS. They still MIGHT lose to some other classes in group DPS and some other classes come too close in ST DPS.
- Healing is inadequte. This is proven by some random under 50% health kills now and then.
- More Stealth. Rogue still wins them in this regard... Atleast some of the TRs.
- Faster stamina regain. Hey they still can't just keep shift and w pressed to move forward.

Warlock needs:
- More hitpoints. They still aren't THE tankiest class in the game.
- Faster run speed. GWF can still hold the pace with Bravery, which is totally unfair!
- Better stamina regain. GWF can run almost as long as they, which is soooo unfair!
- More DPS! Perhaps greatest single DPS that can be used on multiple targets isn't good, the win must be complete.
- More lingering DPS. How can we kill all those fleeing enemies alone otherwise?
- Better obstacle penetration! Shooting trough pillars is not enough, the ray should go trough EVERYTHING!
- More prone abilities! They just aren't spammable enough!

myowmyow · October 2014

I detect serious sarcasm here, except for the post by mareatlanticum - I think he/she was serious!

liliadna · October 2014

mareatlanticum wrote: »

NO! Don't buff Ranger or Warlock, NERF every other class instead, but if you decide to buff:

Ranger needs:
- More Armor penetration. It kinda feels the tanks still have some armor left.
- More DPS. They still MIGHT lose to some other classes in group DPS and some other classes come too close in ST DPS.
- Healing is inadequte. This is proven by some random under 50% health kills now and then.
- More Stealth. Rogue still wins them in this regard... Atleast some of the TRs.
- Faster stamina regain. Hey they still can't just keep shift and w pressed to move forward.

nah that's too much, you need to give other classes chance to use at least one skill if they jump on you out of nowhere
we can't just give them Kill target At-will power but we can give them something like hmmm
At-will power 1 - Put a Mark of Death on your enemy
At-will power 2 - Destroy your target, and with feat bonus (20/40/60/80/100% for target to detonate upon death killing all enemies within 80 feets) what? haven't you see Rambo's explosion arrows?

destinyknight · October 2014

Dont feed the troll guys. Should've just left this thread dead.

lirithiel · October 2014

Admins please close this troll of a thread...can't believe it has made 2 pages, sad community is sad.

zvieris · October 2014

destinyknight wrote: »

Dont feed the troll guys. Should've just left this thread dead.

I'd rather feed the troll than be fed on by HR

izidius · October 2014

koalazebra1 wrote: »

nah they really should buff HR look at those poor skilless f*cks qq-ing, they don't have a clue what to do with their HR when piercing blade gets fixed LMAO

Exactly, they will come rage and cry on the forums after it gets fixed. Easy mode = gone.

wachumpong · October 2014

if you want your dps to get buff in pvp, they should completely remove your healing feats wild medicine. at the moment hr is more tankier than any other class here. hr is god in pvp i bet you just dont know how to use hr thats sad

just learn how to play and youll understand how op hr is

zvieris · October 2014

wachumpong wrote: »

if you want your dps to get buff in pvp, they should completely remove your healing feats wild medicine. at the moment hr is more tankier than any other class here. hr is god in pvp i bet you just dont know how to use hr thats sad

just learn how to play and youll understand how op hr is

Uhm.. You do know what sarcazm is? Because that's what this post is. Sarcastic.

As for piercing blade nerf. It's not a nerf, just a fix. It won't pierce buffs such as unstoppable, sprint GF's block, but it will still pierce deflect and basic DR. Apart from that HR receives no nerf. Will deal a slight bit less damage on tanks but their survivability wasn't touched. Thus, they'll be as OP as ever.

rotatorkuf · October 2014

as sarcastic as this is

combat HRs are ridiculously OP

way too much armor piercing damage that procs on at wills

you can bring someone down to < 50% health in a second or two

so much deflect that is combined with regen, stupid amount of survivability

hypervoreian · October 2014

My honest proposals for the improvement of poor HRs:

1)Arrow of shard avalanche:You fire an arrow and out of nowhere an OP CW appears to help you.Summons Shard.Miss or not you gain 100% of CW stats for 25 secs.This effect stacks up to 3 times.

2)Unstoppable Arrow:New feat.If you fire an arrow to any toon and that toon deflects it you gain unparallel determination.You grow in size and you can use your bow as a wooden club.
You gain CC immunity for 6 secs and your DR is increased by 40%.
If even you die while in Unstoppable arrow mod upon ressurection you gain 2000 power and 3000 deflect for 2600secs.

3)Ninja Spirit:New encounter.While in melee mode not only you look like a ninja(this is aleady a reality) but you behave as one too.
Your stealth increases for 200% while this encounter is active and your second att will is replaced by Ninja Stars.
You throw Ninja stars to the nemy dealing 265,6% of your main hand damage as piercing damage.max range 85 feet.

4)Mark of the Troll:New feat.For every enemy toon chasing you and hitting you whilke flagged for pvp you gain a stack of Troll Mark.
Troll Mark incresing your speed by 50% and replenishes all your stamina everytime you dodge.For every hit you take while mark of the Troll is active you gain +5% Deflect.Max 23 Stacks.

wachumpong · October 2014

zvieris wrote: »

Uhm.. You do know what sarcazm is? Because that's what this post is. Sarcastic.

As for piercing blade nerf. It's not a nerf, just a fix. It won't pierce buffs such as unstoppable, sprint GF's block, but it will still pierce deflect and basic DR. Apart from that HR receives no nerf. Will deal a slight bit less damage on tanks but their survivability wasn't touched. Thus, they'll be as OP as ever.

gf tank + less damage
hr tank + regen master + damage spammer

i mention hr as a tank because of almost infinite shift(dodge) and highest self regen(heal) feats.i have a 16k hr and i know what im talking about, they should fix PB, also the regen of this class is so much. they can kill anyone in pvp without fear because of profound armor + wild medicine.
this class should not be boost anymore

chemboy613 · October 2014

mareatlanticum wrote: »

NO! Don't buff Ranger or Warlock, NERF every other class instead, but if you decide to buff:

Ranger needs:
- More Armor penetration. It kinda feels the tanks still have some armor left.
- More DPS. They still MIGHT lose to some other classes in group DPS and some other classes come too close in ST DPS.
- Healing is inadequte. This is proven by some random under 50% health kills now and then.
- More Stealth. Rogue still wins them in this regard... Atleast some of the TRs.
- Faster stamina regain. Hey they still can't just keep shift and w pressed to move forward.

Warlock needs:
- More hitpoints. They still aren't THE tankiest class in the game.
- Faster run speed. GWF can still hold the pace with Bravery, which is totally unfair!
- Better stamina regain. GWF can run almost as long as they, which is soooo unfair!
- More DPS! Perhaps greatest single DPS that can be used on multiple targets isn't good, the win must be complete.
- More lingering DPS. How can we kill all those fleeing enemies alone otherwise?
- Better obstacle penetration! Shooting trough pillars is not enough, the ray should go trough EVERYTHING!
- More prone abilities! They just aren't spammable enough!

+1/10 char.

Seriously, seen some really incredible rangers who are OP in PvP. Quit your whining and learn to play.

zvieris · October 2014

chemboy613 wrote: »

+1/10 char.

Seriously, seen some really incredible rangers who are OP in PvP. Quit your whining and learn to play.

IS the purpose of this thread lost to you?

chemboy613 · October 2014

zvieris wrote: »

IS the purpose of this thread lost to you?

Purpose:

Class i play is underpowered! Please Buff!

Class I don't play is overpowered! Please Nerf!

Absolutely not!

bajornorbert · October 2014

chemboy613 wrote: »

Purpose:

Class i play is underpowered! Please Buff!

Class I don't play is overpowered! Please Nerf!

Absolutely not!

Almost

I can't play my class! Please Buff.

All other classes are OP! NERF THEM.

dravyll · October 2014

I find this thread outright lolarious. Granted I'm still getting gimped as HR (not to mention winding myself up like a newb), but that's down to me still being a newb in Domination. imo having 2 magic users should fix the OP's woes. Srsly guys, I discovered that having 2 magic users (most ideally DC and CW) will give your team an added edge against a team made up of 100% warriors (iirc all the fights where I got gimped were w/teams having only 1 or even zero magic users).

If we're talking abt the early lvls, HR can be outright under-powered. Once you get the Oak Armour thingy tho... well, I realised that skill is an outright tank-job.
Def bonus+regen=lol wth man????

I tried that before against a TR 1 vs 1. Poor bloke got pwned after getting hit by a MR-FS-DS-AS loop.

Oh, and 1 more thing. If you end up getting ganked, it means you're meant to stay dead. The CC factor can get really absurd if we're talking abt 2 vs 1.

Just a tip here: If you don't even know when AND where your team is outnumbered, forget abt playing PvP.

P.S: Still trying to get my HR build right if we're talking abt PvP. Apparently, doing a ranged spec HR is the worst way to die.

rotatorkuf · October 2014

it's funny that the point is lost on some of you

OP, as others, were using sarcasm to point out how ridiculous and how in love with HRs the devs seem to be

(they are NOT complaining about their class being underpowered, in fact, quite the opposite)

dravyll · October 2014

hypervoreian wrote: »

My honest proposals for the improvement of poor HRs:

1)Arrow of shard avalanche:You fire an arrow and out of nowhere an OP CW appears to help you.Summons Shard.Miss or not you gain 100% of CW stats for 25 secs.This effect stacks up to 3 times.

2)Unstoppable Arrow:New feat.If you fire an arrow to any toon and that toon deflects it you gain unparallel determination.You grow in size and you can use your bow as a wooden club.
You gain CC immunity for 6 secs and your DR is increased by 40%.
If even you die while in Unstoppable arrow mod upon ressurection you gain 2000 power and 3000 deflect for 2600secs.

3)Ninja Spirit:New encounter.While in melee mode not only you look like a ninja(this is aleady a reality) but you behave as one too.
Your stealth increases for 200% while this encounter is active and your second att will is replaced by Ninja Stars.
You throw Ninja stars to the nemy dealing 265,6% of your main hand damage as piercing damage.max range 85 feet.

4)Mark of the Troll:New feat.For every enemy toon chasing you and hitting you whilke flagged for pvp you gain a stack of Troll Mark.
Troll Mark incresing your speed by 50% and replenishes all your stamina everytime you dodge.For every hit you take while mark of the Troll is active you gain +5% Deflect.Max 23 Stacks.

I should've realized sarcasm when I see multiple ones. You, sir, however, are truly full of win. All that is left is Armageddon Blade.

ikapamk · October 2014

Yeah, SW archer HR is terrible for pvp. PF combat, I know is beast. I want to try my new spec - SW trapper hybrid and see how it goes

dravyll · October 2014

I guess some of us are meant to be quite a bit... shall I say slow? Nah. There's nothing slow abt holding Shift.

dravyll · October 2014

ikapamk wrote: »

Yeah, SW archer HR is terrible for pvp. PF combat, I know is beast. I want to try my new spec - SW trapper hybrid and see how it goes

You should be trying archer-combat hybrid spec.

rayrdan · October 2014

you didnt complained when you could abuse red glyphs on 100% uptime SoS right?

however on the preview shard i can EASILY kill most of HR with the reworked trickster. Their piercing will do A LOT OF DAMAGE LESS ( virtually 0 !!! yes 0 on a GF, this leading to 0 !! lifesteal procs too)

now before screaming im mad and biased, look at my signature

dravyll · October 2014

I think we're all now trying to troll each and every class apart from the HR.

lewstelamon01 · October 2014

Please do not create threads to "nerf or buff this class because I lost in PVP". Such threads lead to circular flaming and are not productive discussions

Please empower the poor ranger in PVP!!!!!

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