New Changes! (Not in the 10/10 Preview build) Control Wizard
Storm Spell: Chance to activate increased to 30%, but can only trigger on critical hits now.
Thaumaturge: Assailing Force: The damage from this power is now activated by Encounter powers rather than all damage.
The CW significant damage was already highly dependent on Red Glyphs. As these will be fixed, the remaining damage is ALREADY too low, and yes, I tested, you won't kill neither good HR, GF or GWF without reds even if they have lesser gear than yours.
With SS and Assailant further nerfed, CW will be soon in a way worse place than previously mods (2 and 3), as now you cannot make up with skill (i.e. Shard) what you lack in class power.
NOW : Let's move on to CW & Red Glyph, GF postal burst damage + defense (I am a GF too), TR perma stealth and HR's immortal leeching. Oh by the way congratulate Cryptic for <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> tanking with Sentinel for those who were rolling with 5.5k hp (on their regular build) - what's going to happen to them now? ALL GOING 100% Destro ? The difference in GS for pvp between Sentinel (off tank) and GF is like 3.5k.
Most (original) Sentinels had their Power around 5.5k or Lower - not 8k+ and the most established Sentinels were running Tebeb. enchantment because of the pathetic damage power was generating before this comic show. What's going to happen to them?
Another rapid fast fix without thinking of the consequences by who else but our awesome development team.
What is needed to hit 8k-10k Power:
1. 2 Corrupted Piece (Chest + Helmet)
2. Replace Ring and necklace with something with damage
3. Buffs & Potions
The two above (1 & 2) sacrifices at leak 900+ defense, a ton of hp & regen. Now, if they want a "viable" damage they screwed up their 4th column too. Time for all Sentinels to retire to Destroyer. One drastic workflow fix destroyed another workflow. Now the entire tree is broken. Congratulations!
Imho, you shouldn't complain. Now you have 2 options for pvp: tanky destroyer or glass cannon sentinel. That's better than everyone rolling for the same build.
It seems to me the GWF community is starting again to behave irrational and with pride like during its mod2 days.Some talk about "our stats as GWFs don't scale good" lol!!!!
GWF actually stats scale beter than most classes.Except HR.
Example the GF.With 1300 crit score barely reach 17% critcal chance.Now you tell me...How much critical you have with 1300 as a GWF?30%? lol
Let's talk about GWF deflection too...or the Feat Bravery...that gives you 14% deflection for free (!).
What about your ridicoulously op set Avatar of War?Constant almost,1300 power and recovery?Gosh!
Be carefull what you wish to other classes and the nerfs you demand.GWF is far from balanced.It seems unbalanced to the GWF players cause they are accustomed to the easy mode.
The reason GWF that left alone is that already too many-justifiable-adjustments were made to him.Since GWF player base is big(kinda the intodactory class to NW for kids etc) Cryptic did not want to move further.
But it seems to me that some GWFs want again and dream their broken Mod2 days.
Still even with OP HRs and CWs around the majority of NW non GWF community hates your class.Even if HRs are more op than GWF .most of the community will rage more against GWF than CW or HR.
We have suffered from the broken GWF (deep Gash,broken t1 healing set,IV Sent regen,Roar etc) far to long.We had not forget the leap slam GWF troll hordes that were trolling pvp for months.Don't scratch wounds....
Do not open the nerf discussion the first that they will loose are the GWFs.
Try to improve your class and don't attack to others.
It seems to me the GWF community is starting again to behave irrational and with pride like during its mod2 days.Some talk about "our stats as GWFs don't scale good" lol!!!!
GWF actually stats scale beter than most classes.Except HR.
Example the GF.With 1300 crit score barely reach 17% critcal chance.Now you tell me...How much critical you have with 1300 as a GWF?30%? lol
Let's talk about GWF deflection too...or the Feat Bravery...that gives you 14% deflection for free (!).
What about your ridicoulously op set Avatar of War?Constant almost,1300 power and recovery?Gosh!
Be carefull what you wish to other classes and the nerfs you demand.GWF is far from balanced.It seems unbalanced to the GWF players cause they are accustomed to the easy mode.
The reason GWF that left alone is that already too many-justifiable-adjustments were made to him.Since GWF player base is big(kinda the intodactory class to NW for kids etc) Cryptic did not want to move further.
But it seems to me that some GWFs want again and dream their broken Mod2 days.
Still even with OP HRs and CWs around the majority of NW non GWF community hates your class.Even if HRs are more op than GWF .most of the community will rage more against GWF than CW or HR.
We have suffered from the broken GWF (deep Gash,broken t1 healing set,IV Sent regen,Roar etc) far to long.We had not forget the leap slam GWF troll hordes that were trolling pvp for months.Don't scratch wounds....
Do not open the nerf discussion the first that they will loose are the GWFs.
Try to improve your class and don't attack to others.
Cheers
Bravery only gives 8% deflection. You not knowing such a basic thing only shows how little you know about GWF and their changes (nerfs mostly) and makes your complaints unfounded and NIL.
CW-class has a Auto-proc + feat which procs with at-wills
HR-class has a DoT combo which can melt any class in less than 5 secs
SW-class has a Encounter + curse which can melt any class in more than 5 secs
Yet people only complains about the "broken" feat of GWF-class... can someone explain this irrational fear to GWF-class yet that "love" for the CW-class?
i saw 10 people getting 1 shotted by 2 gwfs... All ok right?
i saw 10 people getting 1 shotted by 2 gwfs... All ok right?
I've seen people getting one cycled by CWs for months and months..all OK right?
It is already getting a-15% damage nerf so everybody can stop crying now.
Look in on new patch notes for cw and its all "damage added" to this encounter or that encounter.
I guess the loudmouth CWs always crying about how tough they have it not only can accomplish getting other classes nerfed, but also get themselves a nice buff in the process. I guess king of damage and control isn't enough to give skill-less CWs the edge anymore.
Anyone who cries about this needs to up defense and learn to move away from these TWO easy to dodge encounters.
I was hitting a GF in a match last night for 2k CagI and less for Daring shout using this build. I didn't ask as to stats, but it shows that the damage can be mitigated. If your getting smashed, up your defense, or stop standing in front of GWFs.
The feat that improves the Weaponmaster passive is right at the end of the Sentinel tree, which is designed for GWFs who want to tank...so those like me who do invest in it wont be competing dmg wise I would think with the other trees like destroyer.
Intimidation is needed for GWFs looking to tank as they struggle enough as it is trying to create more threat than OP classes like CWs and SWs and makes Daunting Shout/Come and Get It even more useful imo Sadly I expect many ppl who choose the sentinel tree just fancy themselves unkillable damage dealers and is the only reason they choose that feat path
One thing I'm not going to put up with is the constant trash talking and flaming in this thread. I've already had to moderate it twice. One more time and I'm closing it down.
Have respect for each other when you post or simply don't post at all.
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CW just died.
Check the Preview notes.
The CW significant damage was already highly dependent on Red Glyphs. As these will be fixed, the remaining damage is ALREADY too low, and yes, I tested, you won't kill neither good HR, GF or GWF without reds even if they have lesser gear than yours.
With SS and Assailant further nerfed, CW will be soon in a way worse place than previously mods (2 and 3), as now you cannot make up with skill (i.e. Shard) what you lack in class power.
No more CW related complaints from on, please.
Intimidation will get some nerf too.
Imho, you shouldn't complain. Now you have 2 options for pvp: tanky destroyer or glass cannon sentinel. That's better than everyone rolling for the same build.
GWF actually stats scale beter than most classes.Except HR.
Example the GF.With 1300 crit score barely reach 17% critcal chance.Now you tell me...How much critical you have with 1300 as a GWF?30%? lol
Let's talk about GWF deflection too...or the Feat Bravery...that gives you 14% deflection for free (!).
What about your ridicoulously op set Avatar of War?Constant almost,1300 power and recovery?Gosh!
Be carefull what you wish to other classes and the nerfs you demand.GWF is far from balanced.It seems unbalanced to the GWF players cause they are accustomed to the easy mode.
The reason GWF that left alone is that already too many-justifiable-adjustments were made to him.Since GWF player base is big(kinda the intodactory class to NW for kids etc) Cryptic did not want to move further.
But it seems to me that some GWFs want again and dream their broken Mod2 days.
Still even with OP HRs and CWs around the majority of NW non GWF community hates your class.Even if HRs are more op than GWF .most of the community will rage more against GWF than CW or HR.
We have suffered from the broken GWF (deep Gash,broken t1 healing set,IV Sent regen,Roar etc) far to long.We had not forget the leap slam GWF troll hordes that were trolling pvp for months.Don't scratch wounds....
Do not open the nerf discussion the first that they will loose are the GWFs.
Try to improve your class and don't attack to others.
Cheers
Bravery only gives 8% deflection. You not knowing such a basic thing only shows how little you know about GWF and their changes (nerfs mostly) and makes your complaints unfounded and NIL.
The REAL big issue in pvp now is:
CONSUMABLES!!!!!
Those need to be locked for pvp and have no benefit in pvp!!!!!!
It's not. As long as it can crit it will remain a major issue.
There must have been a typo in the values calculated, or something.
They made it affected by damage modifiers and other bonuses, so its not a miscalculation.
i saw 10 people getting 1 shotted by 2 gwfs... All ok right?
It is already getting a-15% damage nerf so everybody can stop crying now.
Look in on new patch notes for cw and its all "damage added" to this encounter or that encounter.
I guess the loudmouth CWs always crying about how tough they have it not only can accomplish getting other classes nerfed, but also get themselves a nice buff in the process. I guess king of damage and control isn't enough to give skill-less CWs the edge anymore.
Anyone who cries about this needs to up defense and learn to move away from these TWO easy to dodge encounters.
I was hitting a GF in a match last night for 2k CagI and less for Daring shout using this build. I didn't ask as to stats, but it shows that the damage can be mitigated. If your getting smashed, up your defense, or stop standing in front of GWFs.
Intimidation is needed for GWFs looking to tank as they struggle enough as it is trying to create more threat than OP classes like CWs and SWs and makes Daunting Shout/Come and Get It even more useful imo
Have respect for each other when you post or simply don't post at all.
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