Which feat tree are you taking?

pandora1x · October 2014

It's official that we got these -> 1 tree for slipping in-and-out of stealth, 1 tree for disrupting enemies with CC, and 1 spike damage tree.

Personally I'll take the Spike Damage one, I've been a perma-stealth since 1+ year and it's time to change, if the "Spike damage" isn't subpar of course.. if it is, then Stealth-Based will be my other option.

You?

brilliantcomrade · October 2014

Ill have to wait and see before I sign myself up to any of them but I hope like hell that all of those 3 things are a part of the TRs basic kit and the feat tree simply enhances that aspect of it.

guidogoomba · October 2014

I agree with brilliantcomrade here. I want to see what the trees look like first before I make my final decision. I am partial to the stealth tree though, as long as we get some damage to go with it.

letojarred1 · October 2014

haha I knew spike would take the initial votes.

ikapamk · October 2014

letojarred1 wrote: »

haha I knew spike would take the initial votes.

Right? It's all about staying alive - by not being seen, by incapacitating the enemy, or by simply killing it fast. Many of the forumgoers are pvp, so killing it fast will be the first to spike, with some of the (possibly) more experienced, niche players coming and choosing other builds as time progresses.

myowmyow · October 2014

Spike damage has always been my focus. Even after the DPS nerfs, I still tried to run that role. Since I don't PvP, it wasn't a big issue, but I did miss the great damage I used to do in the past. I've never liked, nor wanted to do, perma-stealth.

I also like the CC path option as well, but my heart is with DPS!

chemboy613 · October 2014

Always though of my TR as a single target DPS.

The way my feats are now, i use shadow strike to stay in steath, which actually increases my damage better than any direct damage encounter.

BTW pandora - wrote a whisperknife guide? Outstanding, thanks for the great work.

yoadoad · October 2014

Hard to say, we'll have to see the feats of every tree before we can decide. Even though I'm currently an executioner TR who uses a Vorpal enchantment, I think I'll go with the CC tree. This is because I think the Spike tree and it's play style will correspond directly to how high your GS is, while CC might require experience, skill and synergy. Just a guess.

But then again, we'll have to wait and see for the actual trees before taking a decision.

showmelights · October 2014

Tbh, if they do a good work with all of them and there isn't a tree underperforming, I'd like to have one of each at least.

gu3sto · October 2014

+ stealth.. I don't trust devs.

f2pma · October 2014

its funny how they say one tree for in and out stealth.
u can do that just fine with every tree unless they made stealth deplete while using atwills.
in that case trs will be slightly better in pve and same as it was in pvp or bit worse
and cc one sounds terrible its like poor cw substitute .

but lets just wait and see

godlysoul2 · October 2014

Most likely stealth. Stealth mechanic was pretty much the only thing that set apart this class from others in that how well it performed was a result of how skilled one was at utilizing it to its fullest potential. I've been between HR, GWF, CW as well, but none of them ever stuck because it feels too straightforward, too directly stat based. HR was decent until the new paragon and buffs. CW was ok with tabbed shard mechanics. GWF has always been a faceroller though, which is why it was one of the first classes I got into, but never really stuck with. Ultimately though none of them can compare to how involved TR gameplay is and how much influence one has over its performance outside of merely stats.

boryskarambullo · October 2014

If spike damage tree give me opportunity to win 1vs1 with melee HR or GF, i'll take this one.

After first nerf, I'll go Stealth-Based.

reiwulf · October 2014

I'll choose when I actually see the trees themselves, but from the concept, they all look fun to play.

beckylunatic · October 2014

At least one of each.

*Looks askew at enough rogues to operate a thieves' guild*

silence1x · October 2014

My TR is still leveling up but I think I'd go with dmg based. However, as previously stated, what/how they do the trees remains to be seen.

pandora1x · October 2014

chemboy613 wrote: »

Always though of my TR as a single target DPS.

The way my feats are now, i use shadow strike to stay in steath, which actually increases my damage better than any direct damage encounter.

BTW pandora - wrote a whisperknife guide? Outstanding, thanks for the great work.

Yup I'm the creator of the 100% invis WK build that doesn't need high INT.

Thanks!

I'll probably make a new one when the Rogue changes hit, I'm not letting WhsiperKnife die :]

crusherbeast · October 2014

What is sense of making thread about changes that no one saw so far. Most people will choose what is best. TR cc? GL with that. CW crush any other class in cc period. When it comes to dmg? Now every class outdamage TR so i don't think it will be so much improved to be better than any other class, and would result TR being wanted in parties. Stealth path? With stealth deplete I can only laugh at people who want to choose that path. Stealth depletion on attacks is death, rise, death. That means target dummy player which is not attractive to party.

reiwulf · October 2014

why are you assuming things won't change much? things changed a LOT for CWs and GFs in last module.

crusherbeast · October 2014

Not so much changes for cw actually. They were best multi target dps and best control and in this module they have also best single target dmg(maybe warlock have a little better but doesn't change much). Ye, well GF's were changed a lot. And why i think it won't change much? This is very simple. That is because... Each buff for TR brings nerf most likely bigger than buff. This stealth depletion is the worst idea i have ever seen in any mmo where rogue is. How can u make class based on tab which is stealth useless? This depletion of stealth makes them useless. That is already proof that TR will be limited. You want to attack-you die fast. You want to survive-you'r just but a clown performing endless run for your life. That stealth depletion is a mockery. Why giving class tab which is useless? They should just delete it and give TR 6 powers as HR has. 3 skills ranged 3 skills melee.

reiwulf · October 2014

I think you're giving uninformed opinions, we can't know yet what changes are coming, so why being pessimistic about them already?
wait at least until tomorrow were we'll get some more information.

pandora1x · October 2014

reiwulf wrote: »

I think you're giving uninformed opinions, we can't know yet what changes are coming, so why being pessimistic about them already?
wait at least until tomorrow were we'll get some more information.

Just ignore him, he posts nothing but nihilist stuff. I literally go "TL;DR" everytime I see him post.

khimera906 · October 2014

I've always played high crit rate, high damage characters. I'm not about to change that now

grac3n77 · October 2014

I tried all and I settled for executioner Because stealth are almost useless now you have to use it in advance if not your dead cause even when you are stealth they can still follow you around infinitely until you lost your stealth or they are close enough to see you and all they have to do is hold CTRL button to do that. Cause in executioner you have those 10 percent less threat plus 5% from feat and the spike damage up to 4 times your normal damage like mine I have 7k non crit but when it crit it does 27 to 28k damage.

godlysoul2 · October 2014

The notes are up for preview. The damage route doesn't look like it's going to be OP at all...

reds351 · October 2014

godlysoul2 wrote: »

The notes are up for preview. The damage route doesn't look like it's going to be OP at all...

.... Not at all just stay still and this lashing blade with first strike from stealth with 2x power will only hurt for a moment.

I'm so happy we finally got some love

sprawlfx · October 2014

I have no idea. Not Scoundrel, is all I can say.

The new model destroys my build entirely. (And no, he is NOT a perma-stealth, never been. He's a CA/Crit build.) Seems to split him in two. Have to wait and see.. anyway, all my clerics and all my rogues are going on ice for the next month or two.. till they finish breaking whatever they are going to break and fixing whatever they are going to fix.

I am only going to respec once per character over this. Seems pretty clear to me that what they are planning now for both classes is not going to fly as presented, so I expect the end results will look little like what GC posted today.

hedgebet · October 2014

I had voted for Scoundrel before but I would not take it now. It does not even match the description they give for it. Sab and Exe look interesting and I look forward to testing them.

I am annoyed now that I had used my other Artifact weapons to upgrade my duelist one.

I am wondering if with the changes as they appear now if dex will become even less relevant to strength (was anyways depending on your build and such). On a first glance it seems that a sab would not be concerned at all with dex and unfortunate for any dex belt sabs, could be something I am not seeing though.

I don't see this first draft of stuff making it live either as I can see some serious OP but only situational damage, but we know TR can master that situational stuff down so that everyone thinks it is "all the time".

I am trying to envision which at will, if there was a gloaming artifact I would almost suggest it (at least on the end health) as the low health damage upgrade looks impressive and with stealth dropping I can see less bleed damage comparatively (since 100% crit vs 50%). CoS still is great for PvP but things are muddier in PvE now. I always hated gloaming and hated hearing that sound but it has a leg up now I think.

demonkyuubi · October 2014

seems like scoundrel will give what i wanted from it which was lots of deflect. most scoundrels can easily achieve 55-60% deflection chance with those feats although 1 of them requiring you to be near dead is risky. this turns our deflect % from average into moderate levels.

still, 44% base deflect + 2.5% from feat + 4% if i respec my int to cha + 10% from another feat = 60.5%. more if you can afford a dex/cha belt.

and thanks to my dex 27, i can easily get a 50% damage bonus whenever i critical someone. nice bonus

showmelights · October 2014

Scoundrel seems somewhat weak for the average TR but still idk why I consider it viable if the player has enough gear to take advantage of it. Who knows, maybe if they buff it a little it will synergize well with Rustlord's reflect build or something like that.

ikapamk · October 2014

So, coming from a current scoundrel, I'm hesitant to say I'll do scoundrel again (for a number of reasons, but mostly for the lack of debuffs promised and the nature of our disrupts [microdazes, really?])

The whole aspect of scoundrel that I like now was the debuff and I was just wishing for some small disrupts. Well, I got the disrupts, but they tossed the baby out with the bathwater.

Gaining all that deflect and lifesteal is nice, though, but I feel it is a bit much, especially since we didn't really get any damage bonuses (here's looking at you executioner and saboteur). In all, scoundrel becomes that irritating pesky decoy for bosses while exe ganks it to death in 2 hits.

Which feat tree are you taking?

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