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Item's Tooltips Shown as BoE - Actually its BoP!

almightybizzoalmightybizzo Member Posts: 30 Arc User
edited September 2014 in Bug Reports (PC)
Moderator Update:
There are some items on Vendors that are displaying a bug in their tool-tips in regard to their Binding status. There is a larger issue at work here that is not related to any specific item or vendor but instead some other underlying bug. So, some items in a Vendor showing as being one type of bound item when they are another, are all the same bug. The Devs are looking into this but this issue is so widespread, there is no ETA for a fix.

Due to the hot nature of the Midsummer Event, I'd like to point out:
The following items From Misdsummer are shown as Bind on Equip when they are actually Bind on Pickup, as they are supposed to be:

[Sunite Steed]
[Blue Ribbon Pig]
[Armored Boar]

[Bottomless Waterskin]
[Everlasting Water Bucket]
[Decanter of Endless Water]

[Pig]

The [Sunite Headwear], [Sunite Garb], and [Sunite Pants] from the Misdummer Profession Tasks are indeed Bind on Pickup, as the tool-tip depicts.

The
[Sunite Headwear] and [Sunite Pants] from the Midsummer Profession Tasks and the [Sunite Garb] from the Midsummer Vendors are indeed Bind on Equip, as the tool-tip depicts.

All the Transmute Weapons and Off-Hands in the Midsummer Vendors are indeed Bind to Account upon Pickup, as thier tool-tips depict.
Furthermore, the [Pseudodragon] companion from the Dragon Scale Merchant is also one item affected, showing as Bind on Equip when it is actually and supposed to be Bind on Pickup.

To be clear; this bug is NOT that the items are Binding on Pickup. The bug IS that they are being displayed as Bind on Equip when they are actually and supposed to be Bind on Pickup.

There are other items affected as well and we'll try to keep this updated with known items being affected by this bug. Please use this thread to report an new findings on this Known Issue.

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PWE Community Moderator

A friend was impatient and used trade bars to get his selune favor to buy the Pig Mount in Summer Festival. When he did, it was immediately bound to his character. I checked and it shows as Bind on EQUIP in the tooltip, but when I tested this by also spending trade bars - it was immediately bound to my character as well. So which is it, Cryptic? BoP or BoE? Because the tooltip is really misleading if its working as intended. I feel the rest of the NW community should be made aware of this as well or it should be fixed and mentioned in the patch notes.

Thanks
<3 Aja / Nepenthe

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  • godhricgodhric Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 437 Bounty Hunter
    edited August 2014
    The bottomless waterskin and the endless water decanter are also BoP altho it clearly said BoE on the tooltip. It is highly likely that the bucket is also..

    So, it is also possible for the sunite steed and armored boar to be BoP too
  • urkmockingjayurkmockingjay Member Posts: 47
    edited August 2014
    lot of pvp gear same same.

    someone dropped the ball on that bad.

    People spending stuff due to false info that they would not otherwise spend.

    Lot of upset people about such.

    Possibly not a particular thing, but some setting with all vendors and someone miss placed the tool tip thing. Bad bad Bad.
  • godhricgodhric Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 437 Bounty Hunter
    edited August 2014
    So the super expensive pig mounts in the AH are exclusive prizes from Summer Feast?
  • almightybizzoalmightybizzo Member Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    godhric wrote: »
    So the super expensive pig mounts in the AH are exclusive prizes from Summer Feast?

    Yes, the pig mounts are exclusive prizes from Summer Festival event. And yes, I think it would be safe to assume that since the water balloon/siphon/bucket tool tip says BoE and its actually BoP - that anything else in the summer event that says BoE is actually BoP.
    <3 Aja / Nepenthe

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  • godhricgodhric Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 437 Bounty Hunter
    edited August 2014
    Yes, the pig mounts are exclusive prizes from Summer Festival event. And yes, I think it would be safe to assume that since the water balloon/siphon/bucket tool tip says BoE and its actually BoP - that anything else in the summer event that says BoE is actually BoP.

    I think the pig companion and the sunite garb are indeed BoE tho
  • theonlyopiniontheonlyopinion Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    godhric wrote: »
    I think the pig companion and the sunite garb are indeed BoE tho

    Well, I just bought the PIG Companion, which I would NOT have done if it had been labled correctly! I am kind of upset abou this false advertising. Is there a plan to unlock these items?
  • zebularzebular Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 15,270 Community Moderator
    edited August 2014
    Doing some testing on Preview.

    The following items are shown as Bind on Equip when they are
    actually Bind on Pickup:

    [Sunite Steed]
    [Blue Ribbon Pig]
    [Armored Boar]
    [Bottomless Waterskin]
    [Everlasting Water Bucket]
    [Decanter of Endless Water]

    I didn't have enough to test the [Pig] companion or the [Sunite Garb].

    Also, I bought 8 [Flower Gathering Reward] three different times (diff chars) and not a single one contained any [Fireblossom Petal] - they only had crafting materials.
    [18:38] [Inventory Notify] You bought Flower Gathering Reward.
    [18:38] [Inventory Notify] You bought Flower Gathering Reward.
    [18:38] [Inventory Notify] You bought Flower Gathering Reward.
    [18:38] [Inventory Notify] You bought Flower Gathering Reward.
    [18:38] [Inventory Notify] You bought Flower Gathering Reward.
    [18:38] [Inventory Notify] You bought Flower Gathering Reward.
    [18:38] [Inventory Notify] You bought Flower Gathering Reward.
    [18:38] [Inventory Notify] You bought Flower Gathering Reward.
    [18:38] [Inventory Notify] You bought Flower Gathering Reward.
    [18:38] [Error] You do not have enough Fireblossom Flowers
    [18:38] [Inventory Notify] You received 2 Light Cotton Cloth.
    [18:38] [Inventory Notify] You received 2 Light Summer Thread.
    [18:38] [Inventory Notify] You received 2 Light Cotton Cloth.
    [18:38] [Inventory Notify] You received 2 Light Summer Thread.
    [18:38] [Inventory Notify] You received 2 Light Cotton Cloth.
    [18:38] [Inventory Notify] You received 2 Light Summer Thread.
    [18:38] [Inventory Notify] You received 2 Light Cotton Cloth.
    [18:38] [Inventory Notify] You received 2 Light Summer Thread.
    [18:38] [Inventory Notify] You received 2 Light Cotton Cloth.
    [18:38] [Inventory Notify] You received 2 Light Summer Thread.
    [18:38] [Inventory Notify] You received 2 Light Cotton Cloth.
    [18:38] [Inventory Notify] You received 2 Light Summer Thread.
    [18:39] [Inventory Notify] You received 2 Light Cotton Cloth.
    [18:39] [Inventory Notify] You received 2 Light Summer Thread.
    [18:39] [Inventory Notify] You received 2 Light Cotton Cloth.
    [18:39] [Inventory Notify] You received 2 Light Summer Thread.
    [18:39] [Inventory Notify] You received 2 Light Cotton Cloth.
    [18:39] [Inventory Notify] You received 2 Light Summer Thread.
  • vattaravattara Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 279 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Pig Companion is Bind on Pickup (Tooltip says BoE - its wrong )
    Sunite Garb is Bind on Equip - correct
    Weapon Transmutes are Bound to Account- correct

    8/28 Patch "says" that Feasts no longer will Bind on Pickup
    BUT
    This refers only to those Feasts crafted after 1 pm (est) on Aug 28, 2014
    Feasts crafted from August 21 - August 28th 10 am are still Bind on Pickup ( Bound to Character)
    You must put any Aug 21-Aug 28 Feasts in the Bank before you craft new Unbound feasts or they will Stack with the Bound to Character Feasts and also become Bound to Character

    Very disappointed in that Last year's Feasts, which were NOT bound at all for a year, "magically" became bound to character with no warning or announcement with the Aug 21 2014 patch.
    These either need to be made Unbound or at least Bound to Account so that they can still be used.
    Also, I bought 8 [Flower Gathering Reward] three different times (diff chars) and not a single one contained any [Fireblossom Petal] - they only had crafting materials.
    I bought 2 Flower Reward bags this morning on the Live server and they both showed the Flower Petals in the Notification window and Log and I could see the count increase in the Riches Bag. Maybe what happened to you was unique to the Preview server? Hope that glich won't go live at Festival Height :(
  • jerezadjerezad Member, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    godhric wrote: »
    I think the pig companion and the sunite garb are indeed BoE tho

    Unfortunately, the Blue Ribbon Pig mount AND the Pig companion are Bind on Pickup. I still have the Pig companion in my bag, yet it says "Bound (Character)".

    I used tarmalune bars to buy Favor of Sune to buy the Blue Ribbon Pig mount for an alt, and it was also instantly "Bound (Character)", despite the text "Bind on equip" when you view it on the seller.:mad:
  • browncoat87browncoat87 Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I can't even describe how irritated I am by this. I would never have thought to check the bug forums but I sure wish I had before I poured hours into collecting petals to get the stupid pig to sell later if it had said binds on PICKUP instead of outright lying and saying binds on equip. I ALSO would have spent that time on my other character because apparently the mount descriptions are lies as well and at least I would have those tokens to spend on a mount I don't want for the character I've been using to do the event since I assumed when it said binds on equip it means I can pick the bloody thing up without it binding!!!

    Did I mention I'm annoyed?

    Fix. This. Please.

    I don't spent a lot of money on this game, but you have gotten some from me and neither of us should feel good about that when you're just completely, flat-out lying to me. Not cool, guys. I hope other people happen to look here before they waste their time like I did.
  • bigclumsyapebigclumsyape Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I agree with the above post. Spent time and resources gathering enough items to purchase Sunite steed for an alt only to find out I cant transfer it(mail/bank) to my alt from my main. I chose to use my main to grind for these resources because my alt is low level(20) and had I not been misled by the boe/bop bait n switch i would have made a different choice.

    I agree that the lack of at least an acknowledgement about this issue is extremely poor customer service. I realize its a game and it the grand scheme not that important but misleading issues like this are diminishing the trust your players have for this company.
  • kaylene420kaylene420 Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I am really angry about this whole screw up. I cant believe I wasted my time and my armored boar is character bound. This is stupid because how are there some one the AH yet mine is bound. Recently neverwinter has just been messing up with stupid stuff like this for me and I don't know how much more I can take. This is really breaking my trust in them and that's sad because this has been my favorite game for a while. They should be ashamed.
  • koralzombiekoralzombie Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I just bought a pig companion. It is bound to my character... Its still in my bag since I want to put it on another character, Please fix this and thanks
  • petestarkspetestarks Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I would be fall on the floor shocked if they fixed this by making them BOE. Anyone want to bet they will not just put "fixed incorrect tool tip" in next week's notes? I too was fooled into this and started collecting things, however I did not buy them just yet. Now I am stuck with tons of pedals I can not really spend on anything :(
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  • slayassasinslayassasin Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Today i bought a pseudodragon from the dragon scale merchant, which clearly said BOUND ON EQUIP, after i bought it, it was bound to my character on which i opened my lockboxes because i had some trade bars left on this one, but i don't even play that character
    So now i'm stuck with a character bound pseudodragon on a char i don't play, i wanted to sell the pseudo because it was normally bind on equipp...
    please fix this and unbind it or give me my scales back

    grtz
  • lewstelamon01lewstelamon01 Member Posts: 7,415 Arc User
    edited September 2014
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  • vattaravattara Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 279 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Nothing mentioned about addressing any of the BOP issues in Preview Patch Notes
    http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?747131-Tyranny-of-Dragons-Preview-Patch-Notes-NW-25-20140820a-5

    The Dev's Q&A article was surprise
    http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/neverwinter/news/detail/7003213
    Q. What’s one of the hardest parts about creating events like the summer event?
    A. We always want to give players the opportunity to get something they like and it’s hard to know we got it right before we release an event. It can be tense waiting for the release day of an event and waiting to see if players are going to think the effort they put into it will be worth the prizes in the end.

    followed by this:
    Q.What’s most important to keep in mind when designing an event for Neverwinter?

    A. The players. It wouldn’t be worth making an event they didn’t like. We get a lot of player feedback from the forums and the data we collect from in-game actions. We try to bring what we learn from one event over to our other events.

    It would be nice to think that the Dev's have seen the posts in the Forums about the displeasure of the players over the incorrect tooltips and the arbitrary reassigning item status after a year with no warning . :(
  • jarecord03jarecord03 Member Posts: 144 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    I had this happen to me as well. Same with Red Dragon Ioun Stone. I spent good money on the information they gave just to have it turn out flat WRONG! (trying to stay calm) Anyone else have this happen. hope they fix it soon. am honestly mad, right now.
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  • slayassasinslayassasin Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    yes indeed, pseudodragons go for 3m+ ad in auction, which is quite the considerable amount, not to say it's a lot for most people, i also sent a ticket but i figured i'd make a thread about it to bring it to some attention, thanks for replying jarecord and i'll hope we get a response!
  • allenscottallenscott Member Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    The tooltips for many items are misleading. I, too, thought that I could buy the Armored Boar mount from the summer event and either give it to another of my characters or sell it on the AH. I would NOT have purchased a Green mount that is actually a Rank 1 mount if it were labeled clearly in the shop as BoP. I've got 2 account wide purple mounts already. Needless to say I was a bit miffed. All in all not a huge deal. But I don't like being deceived, even if it weren't intentional. I've been 'burned' several times buying items with false tooltip information.
    I'm Posting this mostly to help raise awareness so that this issue can be resolved.
  • tcarncetcarnce Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 976 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    zebular wrote: »
    Doing some testing on Preview.

    The following items are shown as Bind on Equip when they are
    actually Bind on Pickup:

    [Sunite Steed]
    [Blue Ribbon Pig]
    [Armored Boar]
    [Bottomless Waterskin]
    [Everlasting Water Bucket]
    [Decanter of Endless Water]

    I didn't have enough to test the [Pig] companion or the [Sunite Garb].

    Also, I bought 8 [Flower Gathering Reward] three different times (diff chars) and not a single one contained any [Fireblossom Petal] - they only had crafting materials.

    thanks, was already wondering about the steed.
    like to know if pig companion is bound also, so if someone knows.
  • drakefbdrakefb Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    confirmed, I have the same problem and it's happening to my friend who bought the sunite steed and the blue ribbon pig and they say BOE but are bound to her.
  • braceguilderbraceguilder Member Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    I'm really angry at the way this bug was (not) dealt with

    Even now there are players that continue wasting their time by farming sune coins and petals, and don't know that they won't be able to transfer between accounts or between characters the items for which they spent so much effort.

    The frustration completely ruins the fun, and it's a total shame, because the festival was really enjoyable and interesting to play. (I think it's even better than the winter festival, because there are at least two events that put all the players on the same level, while on the winter festival those with faster mounts were often advantaged)
  • tcarncetcarnce Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 976 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    i can conform pig companion is also bound. exiting festival and never coming back.
  • nwpilgrimnwpilgrim Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Can someone link the official feedback on this issue from Cryptic please? I tried but i still can't find it x_x tnx :(
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  • drartwhodentdrartwhodent Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 305 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    AFAIK, there has been no 'official' feedback from Cryptic about this.
    If there has, I would be interested in it also.
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    PANIC!
  • nwpilgrimnwpilgrim Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    oh lol... well that's just silly
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  • zebularzebular Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 15,270 Community Moderator
    edited September 2014
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  • toniuswingsongtoniuswingsong Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Same. I reported a few weeks ago and submitted in the bug forums as well. They should at least reassure us it is being looked into.

    http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?734761-Dragon-Scale-Merchant
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