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Terror v/s Plague Fire

oicidrazoicidraz Member Posts: 627 Arc User
edited July 2014 in PvE Discussion
Hi, I'm GF and I don't hit so fast, I wanted to know, what's best?, GPF or Terror?, I think GPF is better, but it seems that the Def Debuff doesn't last very long... How about Terror?, someone have tested how long do they last?.
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  • str8slayerstr8slayer Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 715 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2014
    oicidraz wrote: »
    Hi, I'm GF and I don't hit so fast, I wanted to know, what's best?, GPF or Terror?, I think GPF is better, but it seems that the Def Debuff doesn't last very long... How about Terror?, someone have tested how long do they last?.

    For GF either is fine, they last the same amount of time (3 seconds) but you don't have to stack terror for full debuff. Alternatively, you don't get any DOT ticks on terror, either.
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  • mconosrepmconosrep Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    oicidraz wrote: »
    Hi, I'm GF and I don't hit so fast, I wanted to know, what's best?, GPF or Terror?, I think GPF is better, but it seems that the Def Debuff doesn't last very long... How about Terror?, someone have tested how long do they last?.

    Your assessment is basicaaly correct. As pointed out:
    str8slayer wrote: »
    For GF either is fine, they last the same amount of time (3 seconds) but you don't have to stack terror for full debuff. Alternatively, you don't get any DOT ticks on terror, either.

    so in general GPF is better than terror IF you can get at least 2, preferably 3, stacks up on mobs consistently.

    For most classes GPF > PT except for DC (I believe as I gave up on my Cleric a while back).
  • frishterfrishter Member Posts: 3,522 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    GPF is best on anyone if noone else has it, if they do then terror will give an extra debuff. Terror lasts longer and only has 1 stacks so it's easier to debuff them without effort but the debuff is weaker. They should really buff the debuff to at least 30%. It should be more than 2 gpf stacks but less than 3 really though.
  • vasdamasvasdamas Member Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Lesser plaguefire > normal terror.
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  • ryugasiriusryugasirius Member Posts: 996 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Terror is easier to uphold (lasts longer) but has a smaller debuff. Plaguefire can potentially give a much greater debuff, but you need to keep mauling fast, if you can't uphold at least 2 stacks it's pointless.

    Also, multiple PF or Terror debuffs don't stack (IIRC), but a Terror and a PF debuff DO stack, so if you often play with a particular group/party/friend, consider also checking what they have.
  • degraafinationdegraafination Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Don't forget the other benefit of GPF: Those DOTs stack the "Madness" boon, very, very quickly. That's extra power, regen and lifesteal up (almost) constantly in PVE and very fast in PVP.
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  • valencayvalencay Member Posts: 431 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2014
    degraafination wrote: »
    Don't forget the other benefit of GPF: Those DOTs stack the "Madness" boon, very, very quickly. That's extra power, regen and lifesteal up (almost) constantly in PVE and very fast in PVP.

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  • galaxy1045galaxy1045 Member Posts: 95 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    mconosrep wrote: »
    For most classes GPF > PT except for DC (I believe as I gave up on my Cleric a while back).

    What causes this exception? If i may ask.
  • mconosrepmconosrep Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    galaxy1045 wrote: »
    What causes this exception? If i may ask.

    It is to do with how easy it is to keep 2 or more stacks of Plaguefire on mobs I believe.
  • crazymikeecrazymikee Member Posts: 694 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    It depends because if you play with people who already use a plaguefire or a terror, you need to have the opposite one, to get the debuff effect. (the plaguefire & terror debuffs don't stack per person, only one person at a time can use their debuff) but you can have a plaguefire AND terror debuff at the same time.
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  • dustintheclouddustinthecloud Member Posts: 57 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    oicidraz wrote: »
    Hi, I'm GF and I don't hit so fast, I wanted to know, what's best?, GPF or Terror?, I think GPF is better, but it seems that the Def Debuff doesn't last very long... How about Terror?, someone have tested how long do they last?.

    PLaguefire more usefull, but terror looks much better.
  • yuccapalmyuccapalm Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 195 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2014
    Perfect bronzewood best for GF - you dont need to stack +dmg is higher.
  • mconosrepmconosrep Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    yuccapalm wrote: »
    Perfect bronzewood best for GF - you dont need to stack +dmg is higher.

    Bronzewood doesn't benefit the rest of the party though like Plaguefire or Terror will. It is a very good deal compared to a Vorpal for GFs though.
  • kozi001kozi001 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 876 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I use GPF on my DC.
    As DC I don't use DOT-like encounters so its harder to maintain. It gives more buff though.

    If you are facing a single boss like VT's Valindra GPF is easy to maintain.
  • query523query523 Member Posts: 1,515 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    crazymikee wrote: »
    It depends because if you play with people who already use a plaguefire or a terror, you need to have the opposite one, to get the debuff effect. (the plaguefire & terror debuffs don't stack per person, only one person at a time can use their debuff) but you can have a plaguefire AND terror debuff at the same time.

    This is actually why I go with Terror. Because so many people prefer the plaguefire odds are when making a party I will stack. And it is very good for GF if you consider the powers that will only be hitting most of the mobs once like ET and VM.
  • shadowbunsliceshadowbunslice Member Posts: 175 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2014
    My rule of thumb for this is if your attacking faster than once per second GPF is better, if your attacking slower than that then terror is better. Realistically only GWF or CW can keep a stack of GPF debuff going on multiple enemies. Personally, I probably wouldn't go for either enchants on a GF. A damage boost that ignore's your low base wep damage like vorp is your best bet. I really don't know much about GF though, other than they got royally screwed on wep enchants lol.
  • smulchsmulch Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 625 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    CWs are the ones that should have plaguefire.

    So many of our skills give multiple stacks for it.
  • aulduronaulduron Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,351 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I too think PF is best on a CW, or even a GWF, since they can spread it around so far. I've never played a GF though, so I don't know what's best for them. Though I hear a Frost is good for slowing down red circles from bosses.

    LPF, PF and GPF all stack with each other. My CW has the GPF, but also carries a normal terror for when another CW has GPF.
  • query523query523 Member Posts: 1,515 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    shadowbunslice wrote: »
    My rule of thumb for this is if your attacking faster than once per second GPF is better, if your attacking slower than that then terror is better. Realistically only GWF or CW can keep a stack of GPF debuff going on multiple enemies. Personally, I probably wouldn't go for either enchants on a GF. A damage boost that ignore's your low base wep damage like vorp is your best bet. I really don't know much about GF though, other than they got royally screwed on wep enchants lol.

    Cleave will put the stacks up no problem. It's just that the biggest AOEs will not because they are all daily and encounter. You can keep all stacks on everything in the cleave arc though.
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