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lemonchill
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made a new character reached lvl 60 a few days ago.
8k gs went pvp
while we in the game i get a msg from 1 of my teammates:"why u come here with such low gs"?
for real?
r u serious?!
i have the right to play pvp just as any other "god mode 14k gs"!
i do my best to try to help party, besides everybody started from low gs so now we low gs guys cant pvp???
u want high gs go q with your guild or make a pvp party
if u q u pug and thats what u get!!!!
8k gs went pvp
while we in the game i get a msg from 1 of my teammates:"why u come here with such low gs"?
for real?
r u serious?!
i have the right to play pvp just as any other "god mode 14k gs"!
i do my best to try to help party, besides everybody started from low gs so now we low gs guys cant pvp???
u want high gs go q with your guild or make a pvp party
if u q u pug and thats what u get!!!!
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It is a fair question, when there are tons of "salvage value" purples, and it's easy to pick up two free artifacts.
Why would anyone in their right mind want to PvP with/against someone who can't even survive half a rotation?I PvP for the fun of it and 2 shotting useless characters like yours is NOT fun(maybe the first time because big numbers are funny then it gets <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>).Don't even get me started on how *usefull* as a teammate you are.
I can only advise it's counterproductive, mainly because you will be farmed instead of farming. And it takes you many more matches and a longer time to get the artifact.
If you haven't at least bought lvl 60 blues (these go for about 100 AD each), then no, you're not allowed to pvp. Also, get a shirt and pants (seen many people with the starter shirt and pants you get at level 1). This should put you around 9 or 10k gs depending on your class (maybe even higher for some classes).
But please don't just hop into pvp right when you hit 60. It's just going to hurt. I had a guy in a match today with a level 46 main hand (green too). I just don't know what people expect going into a match or how the heck they even got to 60 without upgrading their main hand from level 46! However I noticed after ragging on him during the match and seeing him in PE afterwards, he was busy buying a new mainhand and soon got himself an epic lvl 60 mainhand. Good for him! Bad for me that I had to be with him before he bothered to upgrade!
I'll never forget the guy that was using the epic ring from the lvl 60 "learn how to salvage" quest, which has no stats at all on it! I don't think anything could beat that, although I was tempted to make a thread about the most ridiculous gear you've seen in pvp.
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But basically, yes, everyone started out low. If you do the best you can to gear up, then you may pvp. You need to spend at least a little time beforehand though at the AH looking over what would be the best blues or epics you can buy, and you may need to try to earn a little AD to get those items (try to get lvl 55 blue shirt/pants at least for example).
Luckily lvl 60 blues are still dirt cheap, because the price of everything else has gone through the roof and I wonder really how new players are going to get decent gear/enchantments.
But we all have to start somewhere, and there is only one PVP bracket, so you will just have to deal with upset teammates from time to time until you get some gear and some experience. Just try not to take it personally, ignore them and just keep running to whatever red point no one else is standing on and by the end of the match they might appreciate your contribution.
Would you try and go an epic instance with no gear?
You're being lazy and expecting people to carry you. That's not how Life works, and it's not how MMOs work. If you cannot contribute to a group (PvP or PvE) than expect people to get mad at you. It's a very inconsiderate thing to do.
And yes, as lisaxxii's already said you need to earn something first so the people start treating you in an another way. Besides that t1 pvp set isn't really expensive on AH...
WTB Class Reroll please
Heck, if you can't afford that, then at least some "salvage value" purples will give you a chance to take the odd target down before you die, if paired with the two easy free artifacts and a bunch of cheap R5s. That will make things a lot less frustrating.
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It's a game, have fun.
Great attitude. Look forward to meet you in PVP.
Or maybe your teammate is just trying to find someone to blame.
But still, even going to PVP has no gear score requirement it doesn't mean you can or should come PVP with 8K gs.
It is the same thing why they put a 9.3k gs requirement on CN, why would you even go if you have lower then that? You gonna drag your team down and just cause endless wipe even if you finish the dungeon you simply get carried by your team, and no one sign up for this game so they can carry people who pay almost 0 effort.
So OP go get yourself some epic and rank 5s. You will have a better gaming experience since your toon will be more competitive, and your team would have a better gaming experience since they don't have to carry you. If you can't do that then you should be ready for all incoming insults from teammate since no one like lazy people, it works in MMO and in real life as well.
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I never say anything to anybody unless they are being rude or unfair/cheating.
However, when in a party situation I feel an obligation to contribute toward success.
That means having gear enough to at least begin to be competitive before jumping into PvP.
It means bringing enough heal pots to last through a Dungeon you are running.
Etc, etc.
It's not fair to expect anyone to have gear that requires grinding or drops or Glory, but it is fair to expect people to have the things that are so cheap you can get them with a few Dailies worth of AD or with pocket change, like pots, kits and basic gear.
Remember, 4 others want to win and 5 -vs- 4 usually precludes that option.
At 8k in 60 PvP you are probably so squishy as to not count toward anything except adding to the enemy kill count.
Take a few play sessions in Dread and grab a few thingies to make your whatnots more moar.
Run a few dailies like skirmishes and founderies and use that AD to get some rank 5s or 6s.
By the middle of the week with short game sessions you could ad 20-30% to your GS without breaking a sweat.
Just curious why that is?
Is it a roll play thing? For the challenge?
Obviously, you have vendored green and blue gear superior to what you wear while leveling.
Why not don it?
Also...
How do you get your recovery high enough at 3k GS to be a "perma"?
Seems like you'd be a "Mostly Stealth" build or even a "Sometimes Stealth" build
I agree with this statement. Read up new players!
...actually I'm a bit surprised by THIS attitude. Until recently I've only bought zen very occasionally for respecs or the like. I certainly didn't 'buy 5k zen' just to equip myself, but I was 10.6k as a casual, non-dungeon-grinding player before I went into level 60 PvP. I scrimped and saved to get the basic PvP purple gear set, bought a few more supporting pieces (PvP rings, etc) to go with it, and THEN I hopped into Domination. I got killed a bit as I figured out how to integrate myself into various types of teams, and I'm sure there's still more for me to learn.
I certainly didn't drop $50 to gear up, nor would I expect anyone else to. I WOULD expect them to go shopping for some level 60 blues before hopping in, and of course updating to the most cost-effective main-hand weapon they can find. If you have half-a-set of PvP gear and a few PvP blues with a decent weapon/offhand, I'm perfectly willing to help carry people a bit. They're obviously working on it, and I'm fine with that...things won't always be perfect, and at least that person is trying.
The guy wearing level 50-odd greens, including his weapon? THOSE people aren't trying (in my opinion), and I'm not feeling like it is my responsibility to lug him to a domination victory just because he's there during the Arena PvP timeslot. In fact, when their gear is too low, it's unlikely that our team WILL win, because as was mentioned, 4v5 is a problem, and we would in effect be operating as that.
So...I guess 'yes', in that respect I am 'eliteist'. I require effort on the part of my teammates. Accidents happen, noobish mistakes happen, and people need to take time to gear up to really get SOLID in Domination (as in, 16k GS takes time to manage! I haven't even broken 12k yet! Soon, soon...), but yes, I'm afraid I do demand reasonable effort from people. If they can't make me work to kill them because they haven't upgraded from their soloing-mid-50's-greens kit, no, they really shouldn't enter.
It *is* their game, and I do hope they have fun, and I'll HELP them have fun...but it's also *MY* game, and if they're not trying, there is no moral imperative that can make me say, 'Oh, darn, well you showed up; I guess that's good enough to make us carry you to victory!"
And for those who are curious, I'm not on any leaderboard (that I know of), nor am I a well-known raider...I'm an RP'er who solo's much of the time. So...yes, you have an RP'er arguing in a PVP thread that people DO need to put in their share of effort. If THAT makes you sick...I'm sorry to hear that!
-liz
i am with you.This is a free game and you have every right to go and play as you see fit.
I had a similar experience today with one team8 Tr verbally attacking our 8k gs DC.It was very unfair for our dc.
Our dc was trying the most and besides he was very polite greeting anyone in the beggining of the match:that;s rare.
And thre was really no hope:the enemy team was a guild famous trolls premade with 2 Trs 2 GWFs 1 HR.there was not hope anyway :P
So these things don't happen only to you.
Just ignore him.
In the coming time although you may want to gear up.Use your daily rough astral diamonds ,refine them and buy cheap blue rings,necklaces.
Buy radiant 5 enchantements.if you do not have the money just buy 99 lesser marks of potency for 9k from ah.
Go to blight grove and kill powries.And participate in quicksling contests.Begin at after 15 minutes of every hour.then use your lesser marks to refine and upgrade a tone of rank5s.
The extra rank5s sell them to AH.
To aquire gear join nw_legit_community chanell.in dd time ask for a party for a t1 run and are always available players to form a competent party.We do not care about gs.
Don't leave pvp and do not take insults seriously :P
good luck!
Of course I got my butt handed to me often, but not always, and I did kill some people and I learned to be better.
I'm in no way an expert in pvp, but if I had waited to get AD to just buy the t1 set instead of farming glory I would be much less trained for it.
I think at one time on here I said I try not to yell at people on here. Now, in the above situation, I yell alot. I want to make it suck so bad for them that they fear going into pvp if they can't play pvp. If we all made it suck for them in this way, odds are they stop coming. Or they improve.
That being said, just last night I started to go off on my team and one of them said, "we are doing the best we can they are just killing us"..I laid off. I offered some tips and they did as I asked after that and it went from what would be a 1k to 100 loss to a 1k to like 870 loss. I told them if they did what I asked from the begining we woulda won.
Someone who is actually playing smart/following direction, I can deal with the low gs. There are some really really good 8k (effective, not bloated) GS players out there who will straight out say they are not fortunate enough to buy weapon enchants and all that. I try to help them out with that stuff.
But people who feel like, "I dont care if I suck and lose and I ruin the fun of my team, I just going to enter pvp anyways because its a game and I can do what I want"...all I can say is the same applies to everyone else- you got the right to enter pvp any time you want and not care about winning and I got the right to do my best to make it suck for you.
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