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OK so Black Ice gear is worthless for me
stupidisstupid
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I am a DC and the profound pvp set has higher Tenacity and in my opinion better overall stats then the Black ice gear.
My High Prophet set is also the BEST in Slot for PVE even over that of the Black Ice gear.
So why would ANY DC grind grind grind for BI when it is not even BIS for us in PvP or PvE?
My High Prophet set is also the BEST in Slot for PVE even over that of the Black Ice gear.
So why would ANY DC grind grind grind for BI when it is not even BIS for us in PvP or PvE?
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After the huge changes to GWF and HR, you would think that they would have made the most useless class in game viable. But no, we heal just as we always have done, but with a stupid change to our feats that reduces our HPS and has no effect on our DPS. So yeah, last update was technically a sneaky DC nerf.
I kinda agree, although I don't use HP i'm using MH and still I find stats better than BI gear. I was hoping to see gear that boosted more stats for more rounded characters since that is how it looked like it was going from the Dread accessories boosting 6 out of 8 stats or maybe start seeing some of those other stats getting a boost, like the combat advantage and action point gain stat that you get very minimal ways of upping.
I have to say i'm disappointed in BI gear in general looks and stat wise. Is there anything that prevents having something that either boosts more stats? Or how about this, how about gear that you can actually pick what stats get modified? I'm kinda tired of having developer picked stat mods on gear, some gear I would love if say deflection wasn't on it? Maybe I just want to up power recovery defense and crit, then use accessories to boost AP deflection or the like. Since BI is craftable I think it would have been nice to basically have a shell and you craft the enchantments that boost the stats you want and you slot them in the armor. I would really like to have seen that.
Every class can solo these heroic 2-3 person events except the DC
We are behind the curve because our DPS stinks when compared to every other class
The GWF (equally geared) has better defense, can heal for more then us (on themselves) and has higher DPS output. I am running through the dailies 10x faster on my GWF who is not even close to being equally geared then my DC.
Perhaps the devs have no clue what they want out of the DC but I sure wish they would HURRY UP and figure it out cause I am getting sick and tired of feeling well pretty much USELESS.
TBH... I'll play the new content to get the boons and see if we get any useful pve gear in the future from this area; however, I'm seriously considering changing my focus from my DC to my lvl 40 CW because it doesn't really matter how many times I respec my DC, my DC just can't hack it in the game anymore. I'm honestly getting tired of putting time, effort, and money into a character that is almost unplayable; then again, I might also consider putting my time, effort, and money into another game that hasn't thrown away one of its original classes.
Something you should know is that this Armor IS also PvE.
Once you upgrade it, it reduces the damage by all mobs in Icewind Dale by 8% per piece of armor you have. So... once you upgrade it, you'll be taking a ton less damage than before.
In pvp area farming for Black Ice the 2 people I am with take off after another player while I am mining and I am left alone (no biggie).
A GWF (who I found out is less geared then I am) comes up to be and starts beating on me (Destroyer cause he never used any prone effects). He beat me with my AS down and Self Heal and STILL had 75% of his life left and only took him less then a minute to kill me.
NOW if I can't outheal 1 lousy GWF in a 1v1 situation (and lets call it a Stalemate) How the HELL am I supposed to live through 2-4 people beating on me in PVP domination?
I love how as this games MAIN HEALER I am not allowed to OUTHEAL a GWF's damage output but they ARE ALLOWED to outheal my damage output..... This is how BROKEN our class is and I really do not see it getting fixed anytime soon, because we all know that the MAJORITY of players in MMO's CRY when a healer beats them 1v1.....
Oh goodie so all that work for 1 mods enemies.... What about Sharandar and Dread Ring and T2 and 2.5 Instances? Seems like a ton of work for so little reward.
I said this time and again that DC's needed a damage buff for module 3. And the damage encounters need fixed. The popular build of "I just heal and be punching bag" was always a stupid build. People pushing for the old way need to get over it up start crying for DPS buff.
So the gear is worthless outside ID? Sounds like a clever way to waste more of your bag space with moar gear.
However weapons wise black ice weapons are better for sure than my current ancient's. Too bad I'm gonna have to wait 35 days to get to them. :<
A Playlist of my CO PvP video's
" Overall while Module 3 gear adds sets with interesting stats the overall stat bonus is inferior to current offense/defense sets (High Prophet and Profound/Miracle Healer). The black ice damage resist is probably its only saving grace. However they do provide an alternative to characters who don't want to grind dungeons or spend AD as you can effectively acquire and craft all pieces yourself after some time investment."
INFERIOR wow just wow, I hope the devs read this and change the stats/bonuses to something that is NOT inferior to what we already have.... No use farming for all that time for nothing.... On the bright side will allow us DC's to ignore farming BI on our DC and use that time to level up an alt or 2's Black Ice....
Gratz Cryptic if your goal was to get rid of the DC class you did a great start.
You say that as if it was intended to ignore righteousness in the first place >.>
But all the crybabies who can't pvp and can't kill or have a hard time killing the DC NEED to be able to kill them with ease so the devs caved in and allowed it to happen.
40% reduction to healing for ourselves in AS and FlameForge is devastating and now we are a complete broken class in terms of pvp (and perhaps even pve)
Kind of an ironic thing to say don't you think? Also the devs didn't cave into anything. Don't kid yourself.
Yesterday morning before the patch I was pvping like I always do and I could take on anyone 1v1 and bring it to a stalemate until someone from my team got there. GWF, TR didn't matter. *equal gear*
Today I go pvp and I can't even stay alive for more then 30 seconds against a GWF or TR that were undergeared compared to me. Nothing has changed other then the change to righteousness and if this is what was intended you might as well get used to never seeing DC's in pvp. (which again is probably what the devs wanted)
I think the majority of people know this aspect of the gear, with the specific black ice resistance mechanic. The issue appears to be the other stats associated with the gear.
At present, it appears that people will have to suffer a loss on their stats purely for this. So the new gear does nothing for the actual game play.
There's a focus on the DC here, not too surprising when their T1 set is still considered to have the best bonus. Now we see another new set with this "must have" environment protection mechanic, which which is only an invisible stat, and is still perceived to be less than a DC T1 HP set.
That is the issue, and a valid one in my opinion.
"Mod 6. Oh my f****** god. It gutted the game pure and simple. And what wasn't gutted was messed up by the poorly thought out new level cap and equip. The game never recovered from that atrocity".
..............not this one then.............
Basically what they are offering us is sidewise character advancement, with only the boons giving us some real advancement. The new gear should be better, be an actual upgrade. Its beyond me why they chose otherwise. It makes me completely unexcited to get and craft the new gear. Very poor marketing/gameplay approach.
nevertheless, i wait to see if the T3 empowered purified BI gear, coz it has a lot of regen (what i don't see it in profound(i may be blind)), could be used in PVP.
Well, I'm spending time (as a DC) in IWD for 3 reasons....the boons, the new enchants (very fast and easy to get high-end enchants, and their bonuses are good), and finally, I really, really want that Yeti pet.
The black gear is....meh. I might get it just to get into KR, but that's it.... what I really want to see is a high-end armour set that replaces HP as the best set for DCs.
Maybe in Module 4......module 3 is really not doing anything for me.