Master of Flame
Furious Immolation is now able to critically hit and its damage has been reduced by 30%.
Split Shot damage has been reduced by about 45%.
Fox Shift: This power now correctly makes you immune to damage and control effects while you are jumping from target to target.
Fox Shift: This power now correctly only hits each target one time during its activation. Additionally, the power was erroneously ticking an additional time at the start of its activation and this has been fixed. To compensate for this change and the fact that the power now cannot strike a target more than once, damage has been increased by 33%.
Okay, first off: my destroyer GWF is currently my favorite character to play, and no doubt this patch will be a sizable buff to her (didn't use vorpal before, so w/e). Deep gash will still do enough damage for me to want to keep it, so I'll keep it. However... those boosts to Executioner's Strike, Focused Destroyer, and ESPECIALLY Destroyer's Purpose, combined with the nerf to Student of the Sword, don't actually affect the Sentinel path like the patch notes say at all -it just nerfs Instigator, which nobody uses as it is. I hate to bait the nerf bat at my own character, but... eerrrgh, this might be a little too much ownage.
Second: As somebody playing a Nature path HR, I do like the new paragon path - but I would like to know what the cooldown is on the new daily. The combination of Slasher's Mark, Pathfinder's Action, and Speedy Slashing could potentially be a little ridiculous.
our dmage with deep gash should be useless now even with no vorpal it was 2 times better ty to crtic damage so some 200-300 or lower tick now
I'm pretty sure is only a small nerf, we dont know how power works now, so we cant say how impactful will be that change, and as someone said, probably conqueror GFs are the sneaky winners of those whole changes, let's see.
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ambisinisterrMember, Neverwinter ModeratorPosts: 10,462Community Moderator
edited March 2014
Some changes I am really liking. Some I am not so sold on....
But alas more hair options, yay! Happy happy joy joy.
I'm pretty sure is only a small nerf, we dont know how power works now, so we cant say how impactful will be that change, and as someone said, probably conqueror GFs are the sneaky winners of those whole changes, let's see.
even if power work in other way i still doubt 15% boost will be able to replace 60% ,as for power changes conq gf could be better but mod 3 as whole will only make cws even more superior to everyone else i cant see any way for gwf or hr to have almost good dps as cw with nerf they will get and gf will lose his main buff
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kreatyveMember, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 10,545Community Moderator
edited March 2014
Please fix Fey Thistle boon so it doesn't show my GWF pulling out her weapon every 5 seconds. Thank you! Other than that, I think I like most of the changes.
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Since this isn't going on Preview when it was scheduled, does that mean we wait a week?
think it might come on Tuesday since most of big updates in crytic games come on test server then or on friday
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dr132Member, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 21Arc User
edited March 2014
In general i like this round of changes. GWF's should have to make a dps sacrifice to be tanky and this appears to be a step in that direction. I'm intrigued by the power re-work, hopefully this means it will be a more significant stat than it currently is.
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frozenflame22Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 56
edited March 2014
The nerf to Split Shot just makes me sick. I love playing rangers and I love D&D, but if this goes through, I'm going to have to put this game away.
I have 4 other characters that I've been working on, but I don't have nearly the fun with them as I do as with my HR. It isn't because the class is easy or overpowered either. I've found the HR to be by far the hardest class to play, but I just love the archery so I have played it despite the difficulties. Currently the class draws way too much aggro (really why would a monster stop fighting the guy in front of him to charge the ranger?), the dailies are not very useful, and HRs tend to be very very squishy. An archery spec'ed ranger actually does much more damage with a bow at point blank range than switching to melee, and this is another problem. Please, if you are going to work on fixing the ranger class, work on some of these other issues rather than killing the few things we depend on to stay alive. I don't care about doing massive damage in a single blow or topping dungeon damage charts. Honestly it does make sense for wizards and great weapon fighters to hold that position. I just want to be able to play the class I love. This isn't about being the best, but rather being an effective team player.
Reducing the damage on Split Shot kills the HR class. Please reconsider this.
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dr132Member, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 21Arc User
edited March 2014
^ if they feel like they have to nerf the damage then they should also increase the target cap like they did with frontline surge. i don't see it as a highly overpowered attack that's in need of a complete nerf so they should do something to keep it useful. a 45% damage reduction is huge and i don't understand how such a drastic nerf seems necessary.
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willsommersMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 103
edited March 2014
And TR lol is gonna be god if they don't fix the stupid SE.
How is TR going to be "god"? SE hits for less than lashing. Oh wait, you're talking about the 2 maps of PVP? ahhh yes. The reason the TR is totally irrelevant in PVE and pretty much all of the content.
What's really, really laughable is no CW balance. Control class with striker damage? Makes sense.
Righteousness: This power has been reworked to now provide a healing bonus of 70% to allies. Cleric Feats and Powers now heal by about 40% less than they previously did but overall still heal allies about 10% more than they previously did.
Feat Cycle of Change: Has been redesigned. Now gains stacks of Cycle of Change (Life or Death) by using offensive or protective encounter powers, and then consumes them with your divine atwill powers, (Soothing Light or Punishing Light) for a burst of extra healing or damage. (Gaining a stack of one type will remove all stacks of the other type)
Omg, im wondering if u understand the problem with DC. The first change will make a DC more tanky in PvP. Just standing and heal other ppl like prepatch. Dont increase ally heals, increase self heals and remove defense from the Armor-PvP-Set, so they wont be as tanky as much.
And im wondering if u ever played the top feat path. Atm the charges affects encounters, postpatch only at will? srsly? why? its a damage path and now u will nerf it. and who the hell heals with light? even in pvp with HD? come on, you cant be serious with that! fix the arp feats with the intern cooldown of 5 minutes first. if ill go PvE with this path, its now useless, for PvP its a big nerf.
Knight Captain's Set: Now grants allies +15% power (down from 60%). This set has been readjusted to be much more in line with the power rework.
2nd set nerf, hope it will be still good postpatch. otherwise gfs will be once more useless. who needs a tank in a high lvl party? who needs a dmg gf when there are still amaziny gwfs or cws out there? start to play the game!
Like the Companion collection? Are you srs?
Only Mounts in Zen-Store are worth: 51200 Zen (!!!!) for a exchange price with 400 its about: 20,480,000 ADs.
Even with 300 its still: 15,360,000
Without the mounts by boxes. Realy? Why u dont just write down your data so we can transfer directly the money to you.
So do we have to do the events again, which we already made?
Ppl still run in a cyrcle to get all archievements / collections... sad day for the NW community
^ if they feel like they have to nerf the damage then they should also increase the target cap like they did with frontline surge. i don't see it as a highly overpowered attack that's in need of a complete nerf so they should do something to keep it useful. a 45% damage reduction is huge and i don't understand how such a drastic nerf seems necessary.
And we wont understand it either till a "Dev" explains the thought process behind it... I for one wont be holding my breath. :mad:
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l3g10nna1reMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 372Arc User
This pretty much destroy any chances that a GF can join in any high level dungeon. what do you want us to do reroll a CW or a GWF?
you could have atleast let the whole party get buff including the GF as a compensation for this big nerf in our set.
first was the bulwark now the KC. i wonder what would be next timeless anyone?
I think in there eyes its to powerful a bonus for a tier 1 set, KC and SB are both tier 1 sets but saying that seems the Devs/Producers are more about annoying people than listening to peoples comments.
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dr132Member, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 21Arc User
I think in there eyes its to powerful a bonus for a tier 1 set, KC and SB are both tier 1 sets but saying that seems the Devs/Producers are more about annoying people than listening to peoples comments.
well it is kinda ridiculous for a T1 set to be considered BiS for anything. however, keep in mind there is a power rework, the set hopefully will not end up garbage. if it does i'll just go back to stacking power and attempting to post moderate damage numbers. i'm just hoping there are actually hard dungeons released in mod 3 that are on par with current gear levels and require a healer and a tank to complete so they're no longer classes people bring when that's all that is available or because they are your friends and you feel sorry for them.
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adinosiiMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 4,294Arc User
well it is kinda ridiculous for a T1 set to be considered BiS for anything.
That is kind-of the status for DCs right now....many are switching from a T2 set like Miracle healer to the T1 High Prophet set, as it is simply the best one for high-end group play.
New Features Icewind Dale
The region of Icewind Dale is now available to Level 60 characters who have progressed through the Sharandar or Dread Ring campaign with at least the third boon in either campaign and a 10,000 gear score.
Requirements:
Must be Level 60.
Must have the third boon in either the Sharandar or Dread Ring campaign.
Must have a Gear Score of at least 10,000.
Great. Thanks. :mad:
I have ONE main that only has one Sharandar boon and I've been playing regularly since open-beta/early-access.
It's going to take me probably another six months (of my play-speed, in only Sharandar) to be able to even get into the new free content.
<font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>. May be time to stop doing anything other than Foundry.
I don't like the class artifacts being reserved for the ones who have 2 alts to lvl 60. You basically need to level 2 toons to 60 and make them get 3 sharandar boons or dread ring boons... which is a lot of time wasted for people who can barely take care of their main toon, and a big advantage for lifeless nerds or credit card warriors. Will take a look at what these artifacts give, at least.
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adinosiiMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 4,294Arc User
edited March 2014
Overall I like what I see....with one exception - the daily keys being like the Dread Ring keys in the sense that you can only have one key at a time. I would have liked them to be like the Sharandar keys - you get one per day, but they are stackable.
Why?
Well, there are people like myself that don't really have time to run DDs during weekdays, but have time on weekends, so I would ideally like to collect the keys during the week, and run several DDs on weekends.
The Invocation Store Now has a Cache of Dread Ring Treasures in place of the Sharandar Cache.
An alternative would be to use that slot for a Campaign Cache Coin, which could be spent on either of the two Caches in their respective Campaign Store. Then when you want to add a Cache for the Icewind Dale Campaign, you just add it to that store for 1 coin.
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katbozejziemiMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 856Arc User
edited March 2014
Completing the Sharandar campaign will take 3 months again. What is the point of giving a boost for Dread ring when that takes 10 times less time? Are you going to reduce the requirements on Sharandar progression?
I have ONE main that only has one Sharandar boon and I've been playing regularly since open-beta/early-access.
It's going to take me probably another six months (of my play-speed, in only Sharandar) to be able to even get into the new free content.
<font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>. May be time to stop doing anything other than Foundry.
They can't keep doing content intended for fresh level 60 characters forever.
Great class balance changes overall. One question remains, what about TR (permastealth) and CW (no target cap on certain skills)? Are these isssues still being worked on? Maybe that's why no fixes to said problems are in the list at this time?
The CW's non existent target cap ruins PvE for all other classes, regardless if they use an aoe or single target spec and desperately needs to be looked at, hopefully as soon as possible. What the TR does... i can only tell judging by what other people tell me and most are not to happy about permastealth.
I especially like the GWF changes. Now that nothing nerf-worthy is left, the constant crying is hopefully coming to an end and other classes can get a closer look, too.
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edit#: The 1% damage from 1 stack out of 20 idea is not that good, though. 2% and 10 stacks would not even work properly in my opinion. 5% per 4 stacks would be more like it.
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pers3phoneBanned Users, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
I don't like the class artifacts being reserved for the ones who have 2 alts to lvl 60. You basically need to level 2 toons to 60 and make them get 3 sharandar boons or dread ring boons... which is a lot of time wasted for people who can barely take care of their main toon, and a big advantage for lifeless nerds or credit card warriors. Will take a look at what these artifacts give, at least.
Don't like this as well. Now I'll have to speed up my GWF and/or HR leveling a lot, and they are as BORING as it can get.
Storm Warden
Class Feature: Storm Step Action: Rank up benefit reduced to .5 seconds and now provides half its cooldown reduction if dallies are used within 10 seconds of each other.
I hope you are kidding.
Trickster Rogue
Path of the Blade is now able to crit but damage has been reduced by 30%.
I hope you are kidding.
It's a significant nerf. Scoundrel's grim gear, the most used pvp gear for TRs, doesn't give any crit %.
I am ok with this debuff. Maybe lot of rogues will back to a glass-cannon similar fight.
Do you really think Hunter Ranger is strong like that? Actually I think pvp is already balanced, Matchmaking isn't yet.
Knight Captain, the only good PvE gear for Guardian Fighters (and it's a T1) is going to be nerfed like that? Why you hate so much Guardian Fighters?
Can't get your politicy, every patch there is a nerf for everyone, nerf nerf and nerf. Always Nerf.
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All I have to say is....
Whhhhyyy?
our dmage with deep gash should be useless now even with no vorpal it was 2 times better ty to crtic damage so some 200-300 or lower tick now
But alas more hair options, yay! Happy happy joy joy.
even if power work in other way i still doubt 15% boost will be able to replace 60% ,as for power changes conq gf could be better but mod 3 as whole will only make cws even more superior to everyone else i cant see any way for gwf or hr to have almost good dps as cw with nerf they will get and gf will lose his main buff
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think it might come on Tuesday since most of big updates in crytic games come on test server then or on friday
I have 4 other characters that I've been working on, but I don't have nearly the fun with them as I do as with my HR. It isn't because the class is easy or overpowered either. I've found the HR to be by far the hardest class to play, but I just love the archery so I have played it despite the difficulties. Currently the class draws way too much aggro (really why would a monster stop fighting the guy in front of him to charge the ranger?), the dailies are not very useful, and HRs tend to be very very squishy. An archery spec'ed ranger actually does much more damage with a bow at point blank range than switching to melee, and this is another problem. Please, if you are going to work on fixing the ranger class, work on some of these other issues rather than killing the few things we depend on to stay alive. I don't care about doing massive damage in a single blow or topping dungeon damage charts. Honestly it does make sense for wizards and great weapon fighters to hold that position. I just want to be able to play the class I love. This isn't about being the best, but rather being an effective team player.
Reducing the damage on Split Shot kills the HR class. Please reconsider this.
How is TR going to be "god"? SE hits for less than lashing. Oh wait, you're talking about the 2 maps of PVP? ahhh yes. The reason the TR is totally irrelevant in PVE and pretty much all of the content.
What's really, really laughable is no CW balance. Control class with striker damage? Makes sense.
Omg, im wondering if u understand the problem with DC. The first change will make a DC more tanky in PvP. Just standing and heal other ppl like prepatch. Dont increase ally heals, increase self heals and remove defense from the Armor-PvP-Set, so they wont be as tanky as much.
And im wondering if u ever played the top feat path. Atm the charges affects encounters, postpatch only at will? srsly? why? its a damage path and now u will nerf it. and who the hell heals with light? even in pvp with HD? come on, you cant be serious with that! fix the arp feats with the intern cooldown of 5 minutes first. if ill go PvE with this path, its now useless, for PvP its a big nerf.
2nd set nerf, hope it will be still good postpatch. otherwise gfs will be once more useless. who needs a tank in a high lvl party? who needs a dmg gf when there are still amaziny gwfs or cws out there? start to play the game!
Like the Companion collection? Are you srs?
Only Mounts in Zen-Store are worth: 51200 Zen (!!!!) for a exchange price with 400 its about: 20,480,000 ADs.
Even with 300 its still: 15,360,000
Without the mounts by boxes. Realy? Why u dont just write down your data so we can transfer directly the money to you.
So do we have to do the events again, which we already made?
Ppl still run in a cyrcle to get all archievements / collections... sad day for the NW community
And we wont understand it either till a "Dev" explains the thought process behind it... I for one wont be holding my breath. :mad:
What he said
insane amount of a nerf, i thought this was " class balance " not Class destruction ?
This pretty much destroy any chances that a GF can join in any high level dungeon. what do you want us to do reroll a CW or a GWF?
you could have atleast let the whole party get buff including the GF as a compensation for this big nerf in our set.
first was the bulwark now the KC. i wonder what would be next timeless anyone?
I think in there eyes its to powerful a bonus for a tier 1 set, KC and SB are both tier 1 sets but saying that seems the Devs/Producers are more about annoying people than listening to peoples comments.
well it is kinda ridiculous for a T1 set to be considered BiS for anything. however, keep in mind there is a power rework, the set hopefully will not end up garbage. if it does i'll just go back to stacking power and attempting to post moderate damage numbers. i'm just hoping there are actually hard dungeons released in mod 3 that are on par with current gear levels and require a healer and a tank to complete so they're no longer classes people bring when that's all that is available or because they are your friends and you feel sorry for them.
That is kind-of the status for DCs right now....many are switching from a T2 set like Miracle healer to the T1 High Prophet set, as it is simply the best one for high-end group play.
Great. Thanks. :mad:
I have ONE main that only has one Sharandar boon and I've been playing regularly since open-beta/early-access.
It's going to take me probably another six months (of my play-speed, in only Sharandar) to be able to even get into the new free content.
<font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>. May be time to stop doing anything other than Foundry.
Encounter Matrix | Advanced Foundry Topics
Why?
Well, there are people like myself that don't really have time to run DDs during weekdays, but have time on weekends, so I would ideally like to collect the keys during the week, and run several DDs on weekends.
They can't keep doing content intended for fresh level 60 characters forever.
Great class balance changes overall. One question remains, what about TR (permastealth) and CW (no target cap on certain skills)? Are these isssues still being worked on? Maybe that's why no fixes to said problems are in the list at this time?
The CW's non existent target cap ruins PvE for all other classes, regardless if they use an aoe or single target spec and desperately needs to be looked at, hopefully as soon as possible. What the TR does... i can only tell judging by what other people tell me and most are not to happy about permastealth.
I especially like the GWF changes. Now that nothing nerf-worthy is left, the constant crying is hopefully coming to an end and other classes can get a closer look, too.
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edit#: The 1% damage from 1 stack out of 20 idea is not that good, though. 2% and 10 stacks would not even work properly in my opinion. 5% per 4 stacks would be more like it.
Don't like this as well. Now I'll have to speed up my GWF and/or HR leveling a lot, and they are as BORING as it can get.
Bad idea.
It's a significant nerf. Scoundrel's grim gear, the most used pvp gear for TRs, doesn't give any crit %.
I am ok with this debuff. Maybe lot of rogues will back to a glass-cannon similar fight.
Do you really think Hunter Ranger is strong like that? Actually I think pvp is already balanced, Matchmaking isn't yet.
Knight Captain, the only good PvE gear for Guardian Fighters (and it's a T1) is going to be nerfed like that? Why you hate so much Guardian Fighters?
Can't get your politicy, every patch there is a nerf for everyone, nerf nerf and nerf. Always Nerf.
Am I playing Nerfwinter?
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