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[Suggestion] Make the Cloak of Lesser Etherealness into an Artifact

arcmoon99arcmoon99 Member Posts: 499 Arc User
edited February 2014 in PvE Discussion
So I obtained this item a long time ago (Several Months ago) and I came back across it recently and wondered, "Why isn't this already an artifact?"

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I hardly ever used it because it couldn't be equipped to my hot-bar but, if it were given some stats and a cooldown like the other artifacts... BAM! Another artifact people can obtain by completing the main questline at the whispering caverns.

Right now it just sits in peoples inventory hardly ever used. It's pretty much just a trophy right now.
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  • degraafinationdegraafination Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    That's a good idea, actually. +1
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  • destinyknightdestinyknight Member Posts: 962 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    yes that definitly should be an artifact. I never even seen it before, cause I havent actually completed the quest lines passed neverdeath.
  • degraafinationdegraafination Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    yes that definitly should be an artifact. I never even seen it before, cause I havent actually completed the quest lines passed neverdeath.

    I don't have it, but I've seen others use it in PVP. Not the best stealth, but a little more difficult to see.
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  • arcmoon99arcmoon99 Member Posts: 499 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    macjae wrote: »
    It's definitely a handy item to have on occasion. It would definitely be nice to make it into an artifact. Or make a full (i.e. not "lesser") Cloak of Etherealness as an artifact, with a much lower cooldown.

    I was under the impression it didn't work in PvP, though. "Attack of the Invisible Great Weapon Fighter" would probably make for a nice horror movie.

    Than again taking damage cancels the effect making only really good for ambushes and getaways. Stealth to a TR degree may be a little OP.
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  • snottysnotty Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 476 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    yea, that cloak is worthless if you are using weapon or armor enchants, while your toon is invisible its visuals from the enchants are not. Also on a side note, if you're using a nightmare mount its flames will still be visible while the horse itself is not.....seemed pointless lol.
  • arcmoon99arcmoon99 Member Posts: 499 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    snotty wrote: »
    yea, that cloak is worthless if you are using weapon or armor enchants, while your toon is invisible its visuals from the enchants are not. Also on a side note, if you're using a nightmare mount its flames will still be visible while the horse itself is not.....seemed pointless lol.

    Well before it actually is made into an artifact all of that should be fixed.
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  • zebularzebular Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 15,270 Community Moderator
    edited January 2014
    I really like this suggestion! If nothing else, at least make it able to go into the potion hotbar slot.
  • ordensmarschallordensmarschall Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 1,060 Bounty Hunter
    edited January 2014
    I use it on occasion, would probably use it more if I could put it in the hot bar. A little underpowered to be an artifact, plus the 1hr cooldown would limit its usefulness.
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  • katbozejziemikatbozejziemi Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 856 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I think they completely forgot about ever making this item, and it doesn't seem to do anything against mobs.

    Also, the cooldown is only counted when you're logged in to that character, which is ridiculous.
  • ayrouxayroux Member Posts: 4,271 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    +1 to OP. Make this an artifact! Would be awesome. Also maybe only let the effect last a set duration? like 15 seconds, then the CD kicks in....

    Give it some nice stats like run speed or something too!
  • kweassakweassa Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Speaking from a total PvP perspective, the reasons why you people think making it into an artifact would be cool, would be exactly the reason why it shouldn't be.

    If this ever comes through, then I'm going start asking for Artifact of Unstoppable Determination. Let's proliferate the CC immunity to all classes as well. Or how about give us melee classes an Artifact of Ice Knives? Ain't that be a sight to behold.
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  • diogene0diogene0 Member Posts: 2,894 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    A 3 mins cooldown for quite a long semi stealth effect? Gods no. PvP would be awful.

    In PvE, this would be a premium cheating item too. Don't want to fight that giant? Let's just hide! I can already see people asking for epic or legendary cloak to glitch dungeons on the horrible /lfg (aka "looking for exploits") channel.
  • arcmoon99arcmoon99 Member Posts: 499 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Let's not forget that in the description that it ends the effect if you take damage. This isn't full stealth, you can easily knock people out of this and they would have to wait another 3 mins before using this artifact again. Could be a total waste if used improperly which allows for balance.

    This is not TR stealth.

    Let us also not forget that this item already exist in-game and people already use it in PvP. Nothing new about the stealth part at all.
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  • kweassakweassa Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    arcmoon99 wrote: »
    Let's not forget that in the description that it ends the effect if you take damage. This isn't full stealth, you can easily knock people out of this and they would have to wait another 3 mins before using this artifact again. Could be a total waste if used improperly which allows for balance.

    This is not TR stealth.

    Let us also not forget that this item already exist in-game and people already use it in PvP. Nothing new about the stealth part at all.

    I bet you'll change your mind when you get focused by 2 HRs and a CW shooting from max distance where you should be able to see them, but cannot. Taking damage puts you out of the status? No problem at all. All that matters is what you can do during that time you remain not visible to others -- especially if you are ranged... and I have a pretty good idea what it's going to be like.
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  • arcmoon99arcmoon99 Member Posts: 499 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    kweassa wrote: »
    I bet you'll change your mind when you get focused by 2 HRs and a CW shooting from max distance where you should be able to see them, but cannot. Taking damage puts you out of the status? No problem at all. All that matters is what you can do during that time you remain not visible to others -- especially if you are ranged... and I have a pretty good idea what it's going to be like.

    Or you can make it have a short duration and/or make it to where you lose it if you attack another player.
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  • xxmantaraxxxxmantaraxx Member Posts: 362 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    When I first heard that they were making artifacts this was my first thought. I love this special little bonus from completing all the main story quests. It was a very thoughtful way to reward people that LOVE the story and took it all the way. I use it every day, usually to get a node that has mobs next to it or to run bast a bunch of mobs in Shar or DR. I am 100% behind making it an artifact. If anything let me put it in an item slot so I dont have to break out of being immured in the game to activate it.


    On a side note i thing the Fey Thistle boon from shar campaign is affecting it. i will be walking with the cloak activated and when my toon pulls out her sword (side effect of thistle boon) mobs near by will see me and agro even though im still cloaked.

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  • alvadimarcoalvadimarco Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Perhaps if it could be put into a potion slot I wouldn't have accidentally NPC'd mine. At least, I think I did. It's certainly not in my inventory and I don't know what happened to it.
  • nap1985nap1985 Member Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I 20th this idea! Do it!
  • str8slayerstr8slayer Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 715 Bounty Hunter
    edited February 2014
    I think it should be a decent artifact acquired at the same place the cloak does in the ilithid quests except make it so you have to complete all the area quest-lines first to receive it.
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  • twstdechotwstdecho Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 630 Bounty Hunter
    edited February 2014
    zebular wrote: »
    I really like this suggestion! If nothing else, at least make it able to go into the potion hotbar slot.

    This. And add a few more unique items and hotbar spots too add some more flavor into the game.
  • imsmithyimsmithy Member Posts: 1,378 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    str8slayer wrote: »
    I think it should be a decent artifact acquired at the same place the cloak does in the ilithid quests except make it so you have to complete all the area quest-lines first to receive it.

    Class artifacts were kinda like this on the preview shard until they were removed , at level 60 you went to Lord Neverember and he gave you a artifact based on what class you are , some of them were really nice too .
  • jazharajazhara Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    prolly save this idea for a zen store artifact i would bet, and people would buy it up :)
  • dhuras1dhuras1 Member Posts: 166 Bounty Hunter
    edited February 2014
    In PvE, this would be a premium cheating item too. Don't want to fight that giant? Let's just hide! I can already see people asking for epic or legendary cloak to glitch dungeons on the horrible /lfg (aka "looking for exploits") channel

    I use it to run to the final PK boss all the time. I get knocked out of it as soon as I cross the bridge.
  • maxilockheartmaxilockheart Member Posts: 43
    edited February 2014
    +1 for the idea :) or as said, at least make it go to the potion slot in hot bar :)
  • syka08syka08 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Man, I completely forgot about this item. I have one friend that, if I'm not mistaken, has actually discarded the item. I wonder how many others out there have, since it's possibly an annoying slot taker-upper to some.

    But, +1 to the idea of making this sucker and artifact! Or at the very least putting it in the potion's slot.

    I never knew it didn't hide enchantment effects. Hah XD.
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  • nukainotasnukainotas Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I don't like this idea,

    because instead of simply clicking the item in your inventory when you want to use it, you would have to equip artifact to your main slot, then use it and unequip it afterwards.

    Would be better to drag a cloak or any other usable items into potion slots and use it from there (like potions).
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