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candinho2
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Wonder if High vizeir set skill still stack or have already removed from stacking? if does it's useless now? and i've farmed the wrong set xD
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HV buff/debuff can stack 3 times only, regardless of the number of CWs in party. Despite that, HV is still BiS for PvE and PvP (you can get slightly better stats from Fomorian/Dread legion wepons, but with a worse 4-piece set bonus).
The HV main and off hand don't count toward the 4 piece set. You need the helm, gloves, armor and slippers for the HV 4 piece set bonus. The two piece weapon sets with their own bonus are separate and gained as well on their own.
Sure thing. It was a typo, I meant armors instead of weapons.
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But HV still gives party 30% dps boost. And because now there is not reason to use OF all the time maintaining stacks is not precisely elementary, 1CW will not be able to maintain constant 30% debuff without sacrificing lots of DPS and control. So you need at least 2 CWs with HV that know what to do. Better yet if all CWs have it.
Is it that HV set bonus is too powerful or that the other too is too weak ?
I think it's both.
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ie. Target has 1000 defense and you get three stacks
1) You gain 1350 defense, they now have 0 (no reduction into negative, but possible to steal more than they have)
2) You gain 1000 defense, they now have 0 (not possible to steal more than they have)
3) You gain 1350 defense, they now have -350 or an equivalent mitigation (can reduce into negative and steal more)
Anyone tested this?
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You should test HV on dummies to see that it doesn't steal any defense. It's a direct mitigation debuff of 10% per stack.
Some powers do give you stacks of 450 defense though.
It will steal defense from players in PVP.
Yup, it "steals defense" even from defenseless dummies
However, I must say... they nerfed this AGAIN.
One cast of Steal Time used to provide 450x3=1350 Def. Now all I get is 450 Def (hit 3 dummies with ST)
EF+CS+IR used to be full 3 stacks on me (even from dummies). Now all I got was ONE.
To get full 3 stacks I had to use Repel on tab in the above rotation, something that will never happen in PvP in my case.
Unsure about the target but as I heard it can go negative.
Have you actually tried it? 'Control spells' is a pretty wrong name for the vast amount of spells that proc the mitigation debuff.
One might say the tooltip is complete garbage.
Should read as follows:
Almost all your spells do 10-30 % mitigation debuff and a few of them also give you 450-1350 defense.
Theres a difference Mitigation is on top of DR.
I think the main take-away is that many CW powers inflict some form of control, so it's easier to identify powers that don't proc the HV debuff than those that do. As to how the debuff/buff behaves, that part is still wonky and varies by power.
Side note: DR is mitigation. It's defense that is not synonymous with DR, though the stat contributes to it. And then there's no accounting for Cryptic's inconsistent references to defense in tooltips, which is still causing confusion for players.
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It was bugged, it was ninja fixed in the latest patch. It used to be able to stack past 3 by using chains of burning light.