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xcom43
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Lately i have been seeing a lot of strange things happen in pvp.
Just an hour ago i got hit with a Ice knife attack that gave me a 15,000 K Crit the odd thing here is i was at full health and in which case i have 30,800 in health and i get taken out in one shot.
I am starting to think that there is some cheating going on.
I have taken healers down to all most nothing and all of the sudden they have full health again.
Even the Heal potions do not give that much even the ones in your inventory.
Half the time i play it seems that the other team all ways gets out of gate first and on top of that it seems what ever this pomacy <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> is gives them even more advantage.
Even with 15,000 gear score it seems some of these players are all most indescribable.And my Chars dish out plenty of damage.
Normally it would take 2 to 4 players to kill me but lately it seems only one is needed.
Just an hour ago i got hit with a Ice knife attack that gave me a 15,000 K Crit the odd thing here is i was at full health and in which case i have 30,800 in health and i get taken out in one shot.
I am starting to think that there is some cheating going on.
I have taken healers down to all most nothing and all of the sudden they have full health again.
Even the Heal potions do not give that much even the ones in your inventory.
Half the time i play it seems that the other team all ways gets out of gate first and on top of that it seems what ever this pomacy <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> is gives them even more advantage.
Even with 15,000 gear score it seems some of these players are all most indescribable.And my Chars dish out plenty of damage.
Normally it would take 2 to 4 players to kill me but lately it seems only one is needed.
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Pomacy is Polish for help. You know...when they get downed and nobody's stomped them yet.
That i did not know.
But it seems there is a lot of cheating going on lately.
Without a demo it's all heresay I'm afraid.
http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?83951-Demo-Recording-AKA-how-to-make-awesome-videos-screenshots
<edit> posted this before lobo's post above. If he's right, then NW handles health, stamina on the client side then that's astonishing. I'd love to hear that confirmed by a dev or mod. </edit>
Rouges that seem to hide for long time.Seems to indicate cheating to me be cause i have a Rouge as well and it does not nearly Hide n the shadows for the amount of time as other do.I have seen Rouges hide for all most the whole match.
Correction: They can be in stealth all the time if they want, and on top of that they can throw u dagger while in stealth.... They use their 8 daggers and wait them to recharge again and do it again.... Its almost impossible to catch them actually.
Now imagine my frustation playing a DC without no CC to stop them at all.
To be honest, this is the only complain i have about PvP as it is now.... permanent stealth..... Guess theirs 20k crits are not enough
I do agree Rogues have way to much advantage in pvp to begin with as is.
Most people who think others are cheating are really only fighting well-geared, experienced PVP players.
TRs can stay in stealth indefinitely, without hacking.
Ice Knife's can crit for 30k-40k with the right armor set and debuffs.
The only common exploits I know of are armor swapping and some strange ITC extension.
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I have seen good geared fighters and they do not nearly put out as much damage as i have seen to day.
Then you need to post a demo. You can see this same thread in every FPS I've ever played. Demos are the only way of establishing what happened. In a well written game it turns out to be a misperception on the player's part. Badly written games turn out to be full of holes and are exploitable.
On my DC I can heal to full in a few seconds as long as I'm not cc'ed and have my daily up. Divine armor, divine HW, AS and maybe a pot unless holy resolve sets in..
I am well aware of an ITC glitch going on and have started to Fraps Videos of exploiters ...
This El Torro guild is the only confirmed case I have through logs of Glitching with ITC and using 1 GF to keep entire teams prone by chaining Frontline and Bullrush back to back to back....they still lost.
I have my suspicions on rogues abusing ITC and as stated am starting to use Fraps to time ITC durations on the opponents.
Oh yes, there will be naming and shaming going on here....as I said..I have my suspicions..
Consider this the Early Warning - Emergecy Alert System Cryptic...
People ARE abusing the game again and it may be time to give Punkbuster a call.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeQxsQsU8IU
Stuff like this is what i am talking about.This kinda stuff is still going on.
is cheating.
http://www.twitch.tv/flyyyyyyyyyyyyy13/c/2505746
uh yes it is be cause they are using an Exploit to there advantage.
And i am all so talking about other classes as well not just TRs.
95 % of those kills they popped Lurker's Assault to teleport to the person, Stealth + LB....
Helen Keller could One Shot someone doing that.
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This is standard TR stuff. No hacking here.
Learn to dodge, block or teleport.
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That my friend is a well-geared TR having some fun. Not exploiting.
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You are correct that several of the players claiming cheating do not have all the information of the class they are accusing. A CW's Ice Knife does not have the health limitation found in a TR's Shocking Execution. I honestly think 15k of damage from it is nothing because I have been slammed with 30k+ and one shot killed several times playing as a TR. Do I want it nerfed? NO.
Your posts are mainly attacking TRs and falsely accusing them of cheating so it seems you are only talking about TRs. I will happily provide a link to the Permastealth build that will explain that no cheating has to be done to be in stealth a long time. Every class can do heavy damage if it is specced or geared toward heavy damage like that TR. Trs are suppose to do heavy damage while being squishy. So please do not turn this into another nerf the TR thread.
http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?324111-Build-Guide-quot-INT-Rogue-quot-Perma-Stealth-Build
There is no point to whine for nerfs because you win some and loose some. Crying just makes a player look like a crier and no one, especially the devs, should take them seriously. Have a nice day!:)
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Doubtful that would be disclosed to the public.
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You are correct and it is well known too many things like health are done on the client side instead of the server side. Stamina and health are only two of them.
There is no point to whine for nerfs because you win some and loose some. Crying just makes a player look like a crier and no one, especially the devs, should take them seriously. Have a nice day!:)
Here's a tip from a veteran MMO player that you can pass on:
Maybe 100 devs and testers, trying to find broken things in the game and making improvements, seeing the game from the coding level. Eight to ten hours a day, sometimes twelve, counting meetings and solitaire.
Several hundred thousand, if not millions, of gamers, trying to find broken things in the game and using them, seeing the game every day from the game level. Six to 15 hours a day, playing it.
Gamers will always know more about the game than the developers, in the end. It's our nature. We're too many, from too many different job fields and backgrounds (yes, some of us are even programmers on competing games).
Don't tell the public all you want. But it won't be too long before the public knows.
Some of us know, and would love to know why something so important was put client side. I don't want it hacked, but it sure as hell seems to me like someone made a very amateur move and is putting it out there to be hacked.
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i am well geared and do not put out that much damage and setup correctly.
Actually, they have supposedly fixed that "exploit" which is explained by someone in this thread.
A small amount of false positives are a fair tradeoff for preventing thousands of gold spammers and Bot exploiters.
Perma ITC is not happening but Extended ITC is. ITC is supposed to last 5 Seconds.
Go into an end game match and you can time some people's Immunity and Dodging's from ITC to 8 seconds +