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MAX hp!

schweifer1982schweifer1982 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,662 Arc User
edited September 2013 in PvE Discussion
After reaching close to max hp(37k), with my TR .I wonder there is no class base hp?
In most MMO class hp is present ,Figther have more mage less.
In Dnd, class based hp also present .
Why we have no class based hp in NW?

Sorry for bad english.
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  • praxismirrorspraxismirrors Member Posts: 313 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I'm curious as to why you wanted that much HP on a TR
  • fallenhawkfallenhawk Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    praxismirrors wrote: »
    I'm curious as to why you wanted that much HP on a TR
    He can/ feel like it or for the fun of it.Who knows .
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  • cribstaxxxcribstaxxx Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 1,300 Bounty Hunter
    edited September 2013
    pretty sure you can get over 40k HP, guy in our guild has 39k with R8 radiants I believe.
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  • ayrouxayroux Member Posts: 4,271 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    cribstaxxx wrote: »
    pretty sure you can get over 40k HP, guy in our guild has 39k with R8 radiants I believe.

    MY Sent GWF is only using TWO defensive R8 radiants and I am at 36.6k.

    I have NOT yet gotten the +700 boon. which would put me at 37.3k And IF I went with two defensive rings I could get another 1k on rings + 2k on enchants giving me. 40.3k. I could then upgrade R8s to R9s and get another 500ish HP and have almost 41k.

    Doing all that I would lose regen and two greater Tenes but you get the idea.

    HP stacking comes at a severe cost to get that high and its all about balance. HP isnt what is OP. Regen is OP and that IS HP based, however I would suggest that for a "tank" regen>hp stacking. Just my 2 cents.

    If you wanna be impsossible to kill but put out ZERO damage? Go ahead and stack Hp/regen up the ying and I bet you could easily get over 42k with good regen too. Have fun doing zero damage though and not killing anyone.

    I prefer a balance :)
  • schweifer1982schweifer1982 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,662 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I have 37k hp 2k regen and still top in killing (20-30). Balance is for weak.
    If you mean pvp .
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  • bratzinatorbratzinator Member Posts: 68
    edited September 2013
    GFs should have a higher base CON ability score I guess which then should result in more HP. However this is only +2% HP per 1 CON. There's a heroic feat for all classes that gives +3/6/9% HP, so a GF without that feat could have less health than a TR with the feat etc. If you really want to see what the possible max HP a character can have is you still will probably have to make a GF, as it not only has the highest CON but also has one more defensive runeslot (other classes have offensive slots in offhand).
  • rki2rki2 Member Posts: 57
    edited September 2013
    bratzinator wrote: »
    GFs should have a higher base CON ability score I guess which then should result in more HP. However this is only +2% HP per 1 CON. There's a heroic feat for all classes that gives +3/6/9% HP, so a GF without that feat could have less health than a TR with the feat etc. If you really want to see what the possible max HP a character can have is you still will probably have to make a GF, as it not only has the highest CON but also has one more defensive runeslot (other classes have offensive slots in offhand).

    gwf can have highest hp
  • fondlezfondlez Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    bratzinator wrote: »
    If you really want to see what the possible max HP a character can have is you still will probably have to make a GF, as it not only has the highest CON but also has one more defensive runeslot (other classes have offensive slots in offhand).

    GWF has highest potential static HP, even though GF has CON as primary attribute and can therefore get to 26 CON unbuffed (32% HP). GWF can get to 24 CON unbuffed (28% HP) + Constitution Focus 3/3 (4.2% extra HP) which is equivalent to 26.1 CON.

    Both can take Toughness 3/3 (9% HP), of course.

    Gear is another issue. But it is interesting you will often see 40-41k HP GWFs around but not the equivalent GFs.
  • axer128axer128 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    fondlez wrote: »
    GWF has highest potential static HP, even though GF has CON as primary attribute and can therefore get to 26 CON unbuffed (32% HP). GWF can get to 24 CON unbuffed (28% HP) + Constitution Focus 3/3 (4.2% extra HP) which is equivalent to 26.1 CON.

    Both can take Toughness 3/3 (9% HP), of course.

    Gear is another issue. But it is interesting you will often see 40-41k HP GWFs around but not the equivalent GFs.

    All classes get the same base hp. Feats barely matter.

    Gear is the massive issue.

    GWFs have good endgame armor/weapons that can give upwards of 4000+ HP. No good armor/weps for guardians gives hp.

    The only advantage a GF has in gear for hp is there purple shirt/pants has like 50 more hp.

    With the various new +hp buff food/potions added recently, GWFs can now reach a straight up unkillable in 1v1 45k+ HP with high regen. Max with 100% hp focus and lower regen is probably near 50k.
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  • brodyhoule1brodyhoule1 Member Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    ayroux wrote: »
    MY Sent GWF is only using TWO defensive R8 radiants and I am at 36.6k.

    I have NOT yet gotten the +700 boon. which would put me at 37.3k And IF I went with two defensive rings I could get another 1k on rings + 2k on enchants giving me. 40.3k. I could then upgrade R8s to R9s and get another 500ish HP and have almost 41k.

    Doing all that I would lose regen and two greater Tenes but you get the idea.

    HP stacking comes at a severe cost to get that high and its all about balance. HP isnt what is OP. Regen is OP and that IS HP based, however I would suggest that for a "tank" regen>hp stacking. Just my 2 cents.

    If you wanna be impsossible to kill but put out ZERO damage? Go ahead and stack Hp/regen up the ying and I bet you could easily get over 42k with good regen too. Have fun doing zero damage though and not killing anyone.

    I prefer a balance :)

    My sent. GWF is 39k hp with r7 radiants, and I still have 5 tenes slotted. I can hit 40k with only changing my sword knot, and I won't lose a tene either. I also have close to 1200 regen, so hp stacking IS pretty op. Oh yeah, I still do decent damage too.
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  • schweifer1982schweifer1982 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,662 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    The only thing i don't uderstand .Why GF have so low hp (30-37k) max with 26 con?
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  • koalazebra1koalazebra1 Member Posts: 1,173 Bounty Hunter
    edited September 2013
    ayroux wrote: »
    MY Sent GWF is only using TWO defensive R8 radiants and I am at 36.6k.

    I have NOT yet gotten the +700 boon. which would put me at 37.3k And IF I went with two defensive rings I could get another 1k on rings + 2k on enchants giving me. 40.3k. I could then upgrade R8s to R9s and get another 500ish HP and have almost 41k.

    Doing all that I would lose regen and two greater Tenes but you get the idea.

    HP stacking comes at a severe cost to get that high and its all about balance. HP isnt what is OP. Regen is OP and that IS HP based, however I would suggest that for a "tank" regen>hp stacking. Just my 2 cents.

    If you wanna be impsossible to kill but put out ZERO damage? Go ahead and stack Hp/regen up the ying and I bet you could easily get over 42k with good regen too. Have fun doing zero damage though and not killing anyone.

    I prefer a balance :)

    a 7 GTE GWF is still at stalemate with deflect DCs
  • dante123pldante123pl Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 282 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    schweifer1982 wrote: »
    The only thing i don't uderstand .Why GF have so low hp (30-37k) max with 26 con?
    its just guess but its probly coz of the block abilty and all GWF can do is take dmg to face
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