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wergild
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For the second time in a row I have gotten to the six day mark with celestial coins, only to be screwed by what appears to be a bug in the system designed to impact the working class. This is how it works if you would like to try and recreate it.
1) Pray for coins
2) Get coins
3) Check the time until you can get coins again
4) See that it reads, "You can do this again in 1 day 5 hours." <-- total of 29 hours.
5) Sleep for 8 hours (8 hours total)
6) Wake up and go to work for 12 hours (20 hours total)
7) Do whatever else a normal human being might do for the next 5 hours (total of 25 hours)
8) Log in and find that you have zero celestial coins.
As near as I can tell the system counts from midnight until the following midnight - so if you come off timer at 11:50 PM, you will have 10 minutes to get your coins or lose them. This is due to the fact that I have 'prayed' for coins successfully on every occasion before midnight, and never after midnight, when I have always logged in to find that I was reset to zero.
Anyone else have this problem? Is there a mechanic I am missing somewhere - like maybe in PWE land 1 day and 5 hours means something other than 29 hours?
1) Pray for coins
2) Get coins
3) Check the time until you can get coins again
4) See that it reads, "You can do this again in 1 day 5 hours." <-- total of 29 hours.
5) Sleep for 8 hours (8 hours total)
6) Wake up and go to work for 12 hours (20 hours total)
7) Do whatever else a normal human being might do for the next 5 hours (total of 25 hours)
8) Log in and find that you have zero celestial coins.
As near as I can tell the system counts from midnight until the following midnight - so if you come off timer at 11:50 PM, you will have 10 minutes to get your coins or lose them. This is due to the fact that I have 'prayed' for coins successfully on every occasion before midnight, and never after midnight, when I have always logged in to find that I was reset to zero.
Anyone else have this problem? Is there a mechanic I am missing somewhere - like maybe in PWE land 1 day and 5 hours means something other than 29 hours?
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ive just decided to stop hoping to complete them all weekly and just buy something when i figure i wont be able to get to 7 that week. it is SUPER annoying, the regular unpredictability of life should not erase 5 or 6 log ins. i log in daily....i get it..its clever...but sometimes I need maybe 36 hrs instead of 25 or whatever. too crazy?
Just assume that it's 24 hours + "arbitrary possible magic cryptic time", and try and keep within the once a day time-limit.
between those 2 steps could be another step that takes about 5 mins which would read:
"log on and pray"
at least it works for me quite well and you also dont fall at risk of losing your coins
This is the second time I have not logged in immediately after the 29 hour window and lost all coins (and it might be more, it just seems that every time I have checked it, I am told that I can not pray again for '1 day 5 hours').
Honestly, if I am logging in every 24 hours, then I should be getting the bonus for praying. If I log in Friday at 3AM and 'pray' - playing until 1 PM the next afternoon, praying again right before I log off (Saturday now), and then my friends call me to go out, so I spend the evening at a friend's place, not making it home until 7 AM the next morning, I will have no celestial coins - despite the fact that only 28 hours have passed since my first prayer on Friday, and technically only 18 hours have passed since my last prayer on Saturday.
That makes it a losing system for me - though obviously it seems to be working for everyone else (and for me most of the time). I just can't figure out where the problem is, since the listed times seem to be very wrong.
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That seems to be the problem, even if I have logged in between those two steps, there seems to be a factor where I lose my coins, but I will do some testing and see.
Thanks for the note that it is working for you Huck. Maybe it is just user error :P God knows that is the most common source of mistakes, so I will do some further testing.
Cheers.
Thanks mate. I'll give that a try too to help see if I can narrow it down, but if it requires that much maintenance, well... honestly I'd rather try to explain a girlfriend to the wife than me skipping out of bed to pray for coins (oops, forgot to pray for celestial coins, and no, we'll miss church again this Sunday with your mum, sorry dear!). Haha.
Weekend away to visit the inlaws? Spend what you have before leaving. If you've reached 5 you can get some crafting mats, but even if not, a crappy potion and some party poppers are better than nothing whatsoever.
Basically do to real life, I have determined that I will not be able to get 7. So I have resolved to spend them as soon as I get 5.
You know you can pray every hour right? Not once every 1d5h?
Don't trust any of the timers in this game, just log on every char and pray whenever you sit down to play,
I can[t see how that could possibly be an issue. It takes as much time as logging on to your computer to check your email. Login. Pray. Logout. Done. Less than two minutes. Less time than brushing your teeth properly. If you don't have two free minutes in a day that you aren't required to justify to your wife, I dunno but, just, wow.
It is pray again with in 1 day 5 hours.
In other words any time after the 24 hour mark
you now have a 5 hour grace period to pray.
If you are waiting until 5 minutes after the 29 hour mark it is user error.
I know what time I normally get home from work, even allowing for the occasional traffic jam. And about how much time I need, after getting home, for real life stuffs. You know, cooking dinner, feeding the family, pretending to be interested in everyone's day. You know, the unimportant stuff. That typically gives me a set time to enjoy my ME time, game time. I make sure to get all my maintenance and prayers stuffs done then so I can enjoy my few hours of play time. Rather then trying to constantly do the math in my head, wondering when i'm going to need to log on or loose out. I know every day, at that same time, its ME time.
The weekends are really the only time I struggle a little. I have more time to play so i'm often on before my normal ME time. I have to resist the urge to pray early and mess up my carefully crafted schedule. But to date, as long as I hit it every day at the same time. Ive yet to ever loose any coins.
Sometimes dull isn't a bad thing
This is incorrect....
The max amount of time does not extend every time you pray.
if it did you would never pray at the right time as it would just keep extending.
24 hours after you pray for the first time of that day your timer resets and you have
a 5 hour grace period to pray within to recieve the coin for that day.
No, he is right.
If you invoke it resets the 29 hours that you have until the coins disappear.
It does not reset the 20 hours (not 24 hours) until you can get your next coin. That only resets on the invokes that earn you coins.
Interesting Never saw it reset on mine.
Perhaps I never paid that close attention.
Will have to watch that closely next time.
And hell if it has a 9 hour grace period not a 5 hour....
What is the issue nothing difficult about maintaining that open of a schedual.
Actually, you can get coins again 20 hours after the last time you received coins.
I am basically in the same boat as sockmunkey. If I invoke every day after work at some point, I am golden, though right after getting home might be a bit too early if I ended up doing it closer to bedtime the previous evening. I lost coins on one guy once because of the Caturday downtime, and after that incident, I got everyone on the same schedule so they even all redeem the celestials on the same day, which makes keeping track very easy. Weekends can potentially mess me up a little, but I am likewise boring. However, Thursday is number 7, so weekend plans wouldn't lose me much, or more likely I'd just accept that I'd get fewer coins that week and stick to redeeming on Thursday, since it's so convenient.
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cryptic forces us to log in everyday if we want to get the 7th coin
Well you could always automate it with something like this (I don't take credit for this, taken from another site) + autohotkey software:
chars := 7 ;char in user acct user := "###########" pass := "###########" chary := 125 ;you may need to change for other resolutions i play with 1920x1200 charx := 625 ;you may need to change for other resolutions i play with 1920x1200 charloading := 15000 ;change according your loading time gameloading := 30000 ;change according your loading time IfWinNotExist, Neverwinter { Run Neverwinter WinWait Neverwinter WinActivate Sleep 5000 SendEvent +{Tab}%user% Sleep 500 SendEvent {Tab}%pass%{Enter} Sleep %gameloading% ;wait till the game loads } IfWinExist, Neverwinter { WinActivate, Neverwinter Loop %chars% ;loop into each extra char { SendEvent {Click %charx%, %chary%} Sleep 500 SendEvent {Click 1740, 1075} Sleep %charloading% SendEvent,{LCtrl Down} Sleep 500 SendEvent,i Sleep 200 SendEvent,{LCtrl Up} Sleep 500 SendEvent,{enter} Sleep 500 SendEvent,{/} sleep 500 SendEvent,gotocharacterselect sleep 500 SendEvent,{enter} Sleep 20000 chary := chary+70 } } WinClose, NeverwinterJust set the variables at the start and go. You could automate it further by using task scheduler. If you have multiple accounts create a different version for each account and stagger when it runs on task scheduler.
Having not used this I'd guess you'd still need to log in and spend your coins, though it may be possible to add something to the loop to automate that also.