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urnusthebeatpoet
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So here's the deal. The new 60 dollar pack is something I want. Thing is, PWE/Cryptic already has my money. It's in the form of Zen, I have more than 60 dollars worth, and I want to use Zen to buy these new items. What's the point of Zen/Buying Zen with cash if we can't use it to purchase the new stuff when it comes out? Is there any chance any of these things are gana be avalible after it releases in the Zen store? I'd MUCH rather pick and choose (basically, everything but the unicorn), but if they let me give them 6000 Zen to just buy the whole, pack, I'd jump on it in a heart beat.
But if I can't buy this pack for Zen, I won't ever be buying Zen again. Zen should be the only way to get items in game (not counting the founder's packs, which were essentially pre-orders). Releasing more content on a cash only basis just devalues Zen and is going to make people (like me) not buy anymore.
But if I can't buy this pack for Zen, I won't ever be buying Zen again. Zen should be the only way to get items in game (not counting the founder's packs, which were essentially pre-orders). Releasing more content on a cash only basis just devalues Zen and is going to make people (like me) not buy anymore.
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It's not just highway robbery, it's a hostage situation.
That's all I am asking. Hell, I don't even care if it's available in the Zen store at "release," because until they release new classes, I have very little interest in playing Neverwinter. I am sure this isn't the case for everyone in my situation (lots of Zen, no real moneys), but I think that most people would be happy as long as they could get these things in a decent time frame after the release of the module.
But until I hear from someone at PWE/Cryptic that we can get this stuff (or at least most of it) for Zen in the Zen stone, even if the whole bundle would cost more money that way, I won't be spending another dime on this game.
hostage situation implies you have no real choice. Guess what, you do. Stop feeding into this horrible game ran by horrible chinese suits. Cryptic was doing good till they got bought by PWE. Give up on it. Stop fan boying over DND and go play a real DND game.
because spend more money to glorious chinese pwe overlords, peasant. Nihao.
Selling things for nothing doesn't earn the company revenue.
this company shouldn't be earning any revenue at all.
Then buy the company and close it. Until you can do that your opinion over what they should be doing means nothing.
And why shouldnt they be earning any revenue?
neither does your opinion that they magically deserve money simply for existing.
No, but as with all companies they do deserve the chance to make money for the time and effort they have put into a product.
this is wrong. Is not nothing, but is money that someone spend to buy zen...remember that exchange is player to player, so the zen that you see are buyed from someone.
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No actually you didnt answer why they shouldnt be making revenue at all.
Sure. But most businesses vastly overinflate the value of their products via advertising.
Thats true they do, but in the end the value of something is completely dependent on the people who buy it. Is it worth the risk/reward? To me nothing in this game is worth the risk of me feeling like Im not getting my monies worth.
pretty much this.
I've yet to actually find any f2p company that I felt merited an actual money spend, save Riot.
So because people are, according to you, dumb that means that Cryptic shouldnt be making ANY money for the time and effort they put into making this game.
I really hope you are never in charge of other peoples paychecks.
I really hope you're never in charge of lawmaking if you think just because I put 15 months of work into building a barn that falls over if poked slightly that I deserve money for all my labor and time anyhow.
Thats not how capitalism works.
Take Hostess. They died because instead of fixing their advertising scheme or adapting to a market that was less enthusiastic than it used to be about cholesterol filled yellow cakes, they simply asked their employees to take successive paycuts, gave the CEOs raises, and when the bottom fell out on the whole plan, blamed unions and let the idiot consumers lap up the lie that it totally wasnt a complete failure to adapt to competition.
OK. Let's shut the game down then. Or let's shut all PWE's games down then. So that such bright minds like you find another company which doesn't deserve your money and relies on weak minded, short attention spanned, clownshoes.
This game is all right for F2P. It will stay here long like all other PWE games but won't have many updates like other PWE titles.
It is the nature fo F2P. Make the game, break even, earn the profit, move on to something else.
And PWE is not the biggest abuser of our wallets. There are worse games and worse companies, believe me.
And, tbh, after playing so many F2Ps I realize that WoW does deliver the quality of gaming and service. I am not going back there but I learnt to appreciate what I had then compared to what F2P titles churn out.
This game is not fine but it deserves a chance to become better.
Not many. Maybe Nexon.
and to be fair, "well, Stalin was worse than Mussolini" may be true, but its not exactly an argument for Fascism being a better idea than Communism.
Those other companies have another thing in common with PWE, ran by chinese suits.
Was that really intended as an analogy?
Yes you still get paid for the work you did.
The law still allows you to be sued for violation of construction codes and poor workmanship.
The two are not mutually exclusive nor the same at all.
@headlesshorseman
the analogy was meant as 'Just because I make a defective product with my own blood, sweat, and tears doesnt necessarily entitle me to any money, especially when its not a project I was under any contract to get paid for"
If you build the barn for someone else then yes you should have the ability to try and make some money. That is how capitalism works, you make a product or provide a service and you get to choose how much your time is worth.
And the good thing about Hostess is the Twinkies are coming back!
And on this point I would have to say Turbine is pretty terrible with their Cash Shop and Im sure I could find more if needed.
Time to do a little research out of the basement....
Not all F2P games are chinese based.
Cryptic studios for example is American based game studio It is headquartered in Los Gatos, California.
The publisher that purchased it PWI and now owns it as a subsidiary is based in China.
yeah. the twinkies are back. The employees mostly arent. also it'll probably fold once again once people stop buying twinkies out of <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> nostalgia's sake in about a month.
Yes. but most of the major publishers (IE, the people who hold the pursestrings) are chinese and korean groups like Nexon, Aeriagames, Perfect World, etc.
and they all have the same strategy. **** out a ton of lookalike asian style MMOs with minimal differences, buy a few english MMos and convert them to the same cash shop methods, featuring with extensive cash shops and go whaling.