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talonvector
Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 114 Bounty Hunter
Just like the tilte says, this new profession is just insulting when crafting at large is just an obvious ad/$ grab, if u want to add something new to your game then atleast add it to something that dosnt suck. Cause at the current moment all u did was make crafting 1 step higher on the SUCK ladder.
Dont pretend, cryptic that u dont understand what I am saying here, I can tell with about half your game that u all actually know how to make a good mmo, but the other half is just a half butt JOKE.
Tired of some mmos that come out trying to re-invent something that is already a good thing, like crafting in rift, wow, and GW2. I really thought swtor had the worst crafting system ever, and when I saw u alls crafting I was like..... ewwwww swtor crafting NOOOOOOOOOOOO, but u know what? Your crafting even SUX more then that game.....UNBELIEVABLE.
Im sure u have heard the saying "If it aint broke dont fix it" but to add to that there is nothing wrong with maintaining something so it dosnt break, but man this is really bad crafting, and if u alls game sucked at large I would just say... Oh well, they r just a bad company.... But it dosnt.... so............ What is this <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>.
Dont pretend, cryptic that u dont understand what I am saying here, I can tell with about half your game that u all actually know how to make a good mmo, but the other half is just a half butt JOKE.
Tired of some mmos that come out trying to re-invent something that is already a good thing, like crafting in rift, wow, and GW2. I really thought swtor had the worst crafting system ever, and when I saw u alls crafting I was like..... ewwwww swtor crafting NOOOOOOOOOOOO, but u know what? Your crafting even SUX more then that game.....UNBELIEVABLE.
Im sure u have heard the saying "If it aint broke dont fix it" but to add to that there is nothing wrong with maintaining something so it dosnt break, but man this is really bad crafting, and if u alls game sucked at large I would just say... Oh well, they r just a bad company.... But it dosnt.... so............ What is this <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>.
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the worth of the Crafted Items however, is questionable.
I've only ever crafted 1 or 2 things that character of mine was actually of an appropriate level to use. beyond that, I always outlevel anything I could craft.
I have such a hard time reading this I dont know if you are agreeing with me or trying to argue.
In the end, different people have different tastes, I for one enjoy the crafting in this game.
Your character isn't the one doing the actual work, they're the head of a small business group.
This is why your first task is hiring an initial worker.
As you progress in levels (both Professions and Character), you gain more experience in handling your workers and so can run more tasks at one time.
At some professional point, you realize that your workers aren't necessarily the best, so you go through promotions, and out of the 4 people that are up for promotion, ONE is decent and moves on the the next rank. The other 3, either quit working for you because you didn't promote them, or are fired because it turns out that 4th guy, he was doing all their work too.
This goes on and on until you have a small consortium or Trade guild or some such, and you're cackling maniacally over all the goods you're producing / Astral Diamonds you're getting.
As for the time hiring a new mercenary or what have you, it takes time to find good help. (Hiring some street urchin to go post bills, or hitting the taverns to find a good worker...
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1. I don't care about Leadership. You don't actually CRAFT anything through Leadership. I am talking about the CRAFTING Professions where you actually MAKE things.
2. Why is it better? Because I can do other things while crafting is being done. I don't have to stop my gameplay to run to town, stand in front of a forge, open up a menu and watch the green progress bar cycle all day. I can set something to craft when it is done, I can set something else to craft. And I don't have to stop doing other activities like Dungeons and PVP to do it. Crafting in MMOs is BORING. absolutely, positively BORING. And thats why this style of crafting is better. So what if it takes 18 hours to hire an asset. Do the longer tasks while you are at work, or otherwise engaged. Do the short task while you are actually playing the game. I suppose you LIKE doing nothing but watching the progress bar scroll all day, to each his own.
3. I've been playing MMOs since the original Everquest. Not my first rodeo. I've done crafting in plenty of MMOs and it's always been ridiculously boring and tedious. Hell, it's boring and tedious in THIS game too, but at least I don't have to stop doing everything that's fun in order to do it.
Hiring merc in NW requires me to put the job into motion, then DO SOMETHING ELSE for 18 hours, like either play parts of the game I find entertaining or *gasp* even do something in RL.
In another game this would be 18 hours of carpal tunnel inducing repetitive button pushing while digging through ingredient bags to find the right materials and placing them into a machine only to push the "make it so" button again the 1,458th time in a row - while your guildies are wondering why youre logged in but not grouped with them.
Yes, crafting process is by far better in this game than it is in other MMOs. Now if they would make it worthwile gearwise...
I see it as investing in a local shop, and getting free custom orders as a benefit of being an investor.
exactly.
This is the only problem with the Crafting in this game. the Crafted items are only truly useful at level 60, and from what I hear, barely so. from my experience, crafted items are useless while leveling up, by the time you can make a level 20 item, you'll already be level 35.
That's another possibility. ^_^
Maybe that's what the Rare Crafting tasks are... Neverwinter Shark tank!
"Yeah... I've got this thing here... it'll take me 18 hours, but you'll love the pants..."
jmad - "Um no... I don't like that idea... and I'm not going to invest in it."
I like to think of it in old-school D&D where after a certain level you could get a keep / tower etc... and could sort of micro-manage your estate...
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Im currently doing this in my Pathfinder campaign. Its like a side quest with my GM every session.
translation = "people disagreed with me, and I don't know how to respond."
I still really have no idea what you are trying to convey except for your last message that makes no sense.
You do realize there are many console games that are a watered down mess (Looking at you COD), so why would I want to buy a console to play at a handicap in games that I do not enjoy.
Ahh now I understand. Thank you.
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And fails.
Seriously, do people not know what the point of a forum is anymore? It's like this: you make a point, people make a counter point, and not EVERYONE is going to agree with you.
If you expect everyone to agree with your rant, expect to be majorly disappointed.
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btw, you don't even need to log in to start the craft or to grab the loot
and a last thing, if "most of u all response to what I think means less to me then the piece of toilet paper that I wipe my butt with when using the bath room", what is the point of making a topic in a forum?
1. I dont make the post for u all.
2. I make the post for the game creators to see.
3. I respond to u all cause I enjoy a good argument sometimes.
4. But all in all I give 0 of a <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> to any 1s responses.
5. I mean no harm to any 1, its just talk.
If you just want to contact the Development team then email Customerservice@perfectworld.com. The forums are a place for discussion not your own sounding board.
Because you can start hiring a mercenary just before you log off and when you get back online the task will be completed (or near completion). Its pretty easy to get extra profession slots opened up.
Much better than having to stand at a forge for 20 mins again and again and again.
Then the logical response is: why make a thread? Responses aren't limited to devs or staff only even if you specify such. If it's on the public forum, then it's fair game to anyone with the right to post.
If you want a dev- or staff-only response, PM the person in question or use the aforementioned email address.
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If you missed out on it, I feel sorry for you. It was truly epic and it's a shame that SOE ruined the game.
R.I.P. SWG! You are missed.