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[Suggestion] Make XP useful at level 60
jipatsu
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Hey there,
This came up to my mind as you still gain xp from invocation and leadership profession, how about make the xp usefull, and make it so that when you hit the next level in your xp bar, you gain points towards respeccin.
For example, 1 xp par completed, you get 1 respec point which you can use to move points in powers or points in feats eg.
This way the respec token is not the only way to move the points on your character and this way the xp also means something after you hit the max lvl.
Thoughts?
This came up to my mind as you still gain xp from invocation and leadership profession, how about make the xp usefull, and make it so that when you hit the next level in your xp bar, you gain points towards respeccin.
For example, 1 xp par completed, you get 1 respec point which you can use to move points in powers or points in feats eg.
This way the respec token is not the only way to move the points on your character and this way the xp also means something after you hit the max lvl.
Thoughts?
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Could be the same for the tomes to level companions, I would not be surprised if those were only to be available for Zen, as it would be another opportunity to make some money from the NW players.
I can see xp gain going toward a respec point, but as was mentioned here before, I don't see PW doing it since normal respec costs are 6/per
Why? Because it makes absolutely no sense at all.
This is not true at all, i don't remember which game it was, but I've played a MMO where if you reach max level, all future experience goes towards skill points to spend on the skills you have available.
This model wouldn't work in neverwinter, but saying that no MMO's do it is simply not true.
Just because you think this makes no sense doesn't mean everybody else agrees.
It simply makes you look mean.
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If you have done a quest on one character, it's done and you cannot do it again (unless it is a repeatable quest or a daily). But you can make a new character and level him or her up, too!
I use the XP at 60 to max out my companions. Takes quite a bit without questing.
FFXI implemented xp after max level to both retain your level when you die (gotta love deleveling and not being able to equip your endgame gear anymore) and to obtain merit points used to further enhance your characters skills. Saying that no mmo does this is incorrect, and how they did it made perfect sense in their model of mmo.
If they did something like this for PvE and PVP, with some additional skill unlocks of some sort, I think it would be great for everyone. But I don't see this happening....
I would love that.
I mean in my suggestion is that when you get 1 xp bar full, you can move respec only 1 point to another for example. Not the whole power / feat tree. This way it still would be pay to save time.
Runes of Magic has a system like that. The Talent Points.
Runes of Magic is a kind of an unbalanced game though... with lots of bugs and a demented XP system.
Liked the TP points though.
Actually many games use this, the pioneer I believe would go to the Everquest franchise. You would get critical spells & abilities early on in the game.
But at max level instead of doing the same round of quests everyday (dailies) you would go and get achievements like slayers, or hunters...and the xp could be used to get things like more damage on melee/spells more crit on melee/spells - further advance your character by instant activation abilities, heals, damage. Buffs, etc. You could even get the ability to turn a group buff into a raidwide mass group buff once every hour.
I for one prefer the above model over dailies, but a lot are brainwashed to think dailies is the only way.
The advantage of logging in and doing any activity that gains xp (slayers, hunters, dungeons, pvp, etc) and being able to forward that to a system to advance my character has clear advantages over the monotony of dailies in my eyes.
Actually, this statement is untrue. There is one MMO that actually makes use of the exp after max level. Everquest has a feature called AA (Alternate Advancement) points. These points can be used for a variety of things such as increasing stat points, lowering cool down of powers, increasing base movement speed, etc. there are hundreds of AA point types. They are grouped as generic AA's anyone can access, Racial and Class AA points and expansion pack AA points. It's actually the best end game design that I have ever seen. It gives you something to work towards while you wait for the next expansion / module. I would love to see other MMO's take a note from this book and make the end game worth while.
Judging by the long list of poster that have quoted you and then said something to prove you wrong it would appear that making a blanket statement when you apparently have relatively little MMO experience under your belt doesn't work out so well. Who would have thought? Perhaps consider if your post contributes in any useful way to the topic before you post in the future.
It's true that being stuck at a level cap with nothing to do but grind gear (that you know you are going to replace as soon as better gear is released) is one of the biggest reasons I leave games and never return. I don't know why it is so difficult for designers to realize that character progression should never stop (and I mean progression of the character, not progression of the clothes the character is temporarily wearing). If my character cannot improve then I have little desire to play. Some sort of AA at level cap should be in every game.
More easy content with adds and easy to avoid red circles won't fix this, open your eyes and see this game for what it actually is. A quickly/poorly designed game aimed directly at getting as much money from you in as short a time as possible, *before* you figure out there's nothing there.
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This won't fix jack. Their trade skill system is nothing more than a ridiculously boring facebook game-no real worth can come from tying exp into this.
After all the examples of just how ignorant your statement was, let me offer yet another- Rift.
Master Necromancer resurrects a thread almost a year old. Bravo.
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