Uh, if you want to sell stuff, use the auction house. If you want to team up with people, join a guild or press, you know, the queue button. Selling junk for gold on the public chat is right up there with cold-calling houses to sell amway.
While I don't think zone chat should be used for trades, there is nothing wrong with trying to sell items for gold, and the AH simply does not allow for that.
You may have your opinion on selling items for gold, but that's just that: your opinion. It shouldn't give you the right to contribute to a system-wide chat ban.
It's common knowledge that 21 reports is required for a 24 hour chat ban.
And there lies the problem with people complaining about this function. They call a system like this broken without knowing how it works, then denying how it works once they find out.
Don't believe me? There's a thread floating around here where some guy ran instances of the game and reported a character until it was chat banned, took 21.
No, I don't care that much. This is your beef, so you do some work instead of just sitting back and challenging any counter point with some asinine snarky comment.
So what you're saying is " There is proof out there that I am willing to defend, but not to the extent of actually proving anything. "
No, what I'm saying is there's information that has been verified by many ends out there if you are willing to look for it instead of just whining about it.
I personally don't care enough to go sifting through the forums to find the post because the report spam feature doesn't bother me at all.
It doesnt effect me either, but I did some "sifting" and the funny thing is there isnt one post with solid proof, nor any report from an employee of Cryptic. Just a bunch of people guessing at a system they dont fully understand.
It's out there, I promise you that. It was in the thread that was exactly like this. The guy started railing about how he's going to show the world how the system is broken and go Che Guevara on neverwinter. He confirmed the theory that it takes 21 reports to get chat banned.
Well unless you can provide the proof of this its all conjecture. Burden of proof doesnt fall on the person who is refuting what you believe.
actually there is a Trade channel. it just consist of every game that cryptic has using that one channel. last i looked it had over 175k players in it.
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You must be joking me right? I have every right to sell whatever i want, besides selling epics for small gold amount is very good for fresh 60 players that dont have that many AD and they can build up their gear on that. Your obviously one of this players that have nothing better to do then trolling other players becouse they want to sell something. Im not spamming chat just adversite things i got to sell. And your thinking is wrong i sold EVERY epic i managed to adversite, low lvl ppl love to buy things for when they hit 60.
Ppl like you reporting for nothing, becouse their loogic fails, deserve this ban more then anyone
Complain all you want, in a community driven system which this is, it has been clearly stated that people using ZONE for auctions will be reported for spamming and more than likely be on the business end of a chat ban.
Post your <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> in the AH where anyone interested can look for it (using the web based version since the in game version is worthless) or plan on going hours without chat. It's really quite simple as people use the systems available to them to determine what is 'acceptable" behavior in this game.
In addition there are custom channels made for each server for trade/lfg etc. Try utilizing the Search function here.
Or ignore all of that and continue to rail helplessly against the machine that Cryptic and PWE have made.
I think it's pretty clear who the troll is here and the only thing that's failing is your spelling & basic sentence construction.
That aside you're right you have the right to try and sell whatever you want but it seems your interpretation of spamming and that of other players may differ somewhat.
I actually got banned without even posting on the zone chat. I already made a thread about it yesterday which was moved to the "lower depths" section because people like you jumped on me yelling "lies". It is obvious that people have found a way for multiple reports and the system is not fair. On a different note: spelling and basic sentence construction sometimes fail when English is not ones native language. The fact that you use that as an argument to a debate doesn't make you look good.At all
ps: Excuse my numerous fails on Grammar. We can continue the conversation in my language anytime you like. I'm sure you have studied Greek in school. Easy language...You can use a spellchecker as you suggested and then having me jump on you about correct sentences, It will be fun
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It doesnt effect me either, but I did some "sifting" and the funny thing is there isnt one post with solid proof, nor any report from an employee of Cryptic. Just a bunch of people guessing at a system they dont fully understand.
Just seemed odd that I was having a debate with 3 people.
Anyway, information is out there if you want to actually look for it instead of just sit here and troll.
I know its odd that not everyone agrees with you. And like I said before I did go actually look and still nothing from Cryptic and just a bunch of people guessing at what it is.
this is happening because new players don't know reporting ya get baned and alot report people auctioning in zone chat cause if your sitting in protectors enclave you need to be a computer sometimes just to be able to read fast enough to keep up with all the trade spam.
I have said from day one need a zone trade channel that you can join that way thos wishing to actualy chat in zone chat can and thos wishing to trade can do so in there channel
It doesnt effect me either, but I did some "sifting" and the funny thing is there isnt one post with solid proof, nor any report from an employee of Cryptic. Just a bunch of people guessing at a system they dont fully understand.
You missed it.
Its 21.
Ill give you a hint. The thread has a link with 21 screenshots in it.
Yay another person coming in with baseless claims. Give a link to your proof if you think its such concrete evidence.
Never seen so many people dance around giving proof to something they believe in. Except Christians.
Don't want to do the work to gain knowledge. Then live in the dark. I have that knowledge, after a few minutes of search fu. Its 21, no matter how much you rain your head against that FACT that has already been shown to be true to the point that its public knowledge.
Yay another person coming in with baseless claims. Give a link to your proof if you think its such concrete evidence.
Never seen so many people dance around giving proof to something they believe in. Except Christians.
Theviking-numbers : It is 21. I will not provide a link because you're funny when you rant and post pointless arguments.. Also it can be exploited. One person can report 21 times and he can do it instantly. Given the fact that Cryptic hasn't fix more serious and glaring issues l I wouldn't have much hope for this to ever get resolved.
And those ignores/spam reports aren't disappearing anywhere after certain time. It may take months to get a ban. But eventually you'll get muted. Ofcourse the counter zeroes after the muting.
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While I don't think zone chat should be used for trades, there is nothing wrong with trying to sell items for gold, and the AH simply does not allow for that.
You may have your opinion on selling items for gold, but that's just that: your opinion. It shouldn't give you the right to contribute to a system-wide chat ban.
And there lies the problem with people complaining about this function. They call a system like this broken without knowing how it works, then denying how it works once they find out.
Let's start by providing a link to this thread.
So what you're saying is " There is proof out there that I am willing to defend, but not to the extent of actually proving anything. "
It doesnt effect me either, but I did some "sifting" and the funny thing is there isnt one post with solid proof, nor any report from an employee of Cryptic. Just a bunch of people guessing at a system they dont fully understand.
Well unless you can provide the proof of this its all conjecture. Burden of proof doesnt fall on the person who is refuting what you believe.
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Thanks for proving my point
I have 2 that I multibox, why does it matter?
Complain all you want, in a community driven system which this is, it has been clearly stated that people using ZONE for auctions will be reported for spamming and more than likely be on the business end of a chat ban.
Post your <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> in the AH where anyone interested can look for it (using the web based version since the in game version is worthless) or plan on going hours without chat. It's really quite simple as people use the systems available to them to determine what is 'acceptable" behavior in this game.
In addition there are custom channels made for each server for trade/lfg etc. Try utilizing the Search function here.
Or ignore all of that and continue to rail helplessly against the machine that Cryptic and PWE have made.
I actually got banned without even posting on the zone chat. I already made a thread about it yesterday which was moved to the "lower depths" section because people like you jumped on me yelling "lies". It is obvious that people have found a way for multiple reports and the system is not fair. On a different note: spelling and basic sentence construction sometimes fail when English is not ones native language. The fact that you use that as an argument to a debate doesn't make you look good.At all
ps: Excuse my numerous fails on Grammar. We can continue the conversation in my language anytime you like. I'm sure you have studied Greek in school. Easy language...You can use a spellchecker as you suggested and then having me jump on you about correct sentences, It will be fun
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I know its odd that not everyone agrees with you. And like I said before I did go actually look and still nothing from Cryptic and just a bunch of people guessing at what it is.
I have said from day one need a zone trade channel that you can join that way thos wishing to actualy chat in zone chat can and thos wishing to trade can do so in there channel
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You missed it.
Its 21.
Ill give you a hint. The thread has a link with 21 screenshots in it.
Yay another person coming in with baseless claims. Give a link to your proof if you think its such concrete evidence.
Never seen so many people dance around giving proof to something they believe in. Except Christians.
Don't want to do the work to gain knowledge. Then live in the dark. I have that knowledge, after a few minutes of search fu. Its 21, no matter how much you rain your head against that FACT that has already been shown to be true to the point that its public knowledge.
Theviking-numbers : It is 21. I will not provide a link because you're funny when you rant and post pointless arguments.. Also it can be exploited. One person can report 21 times and he can do it instantly. Given the fact that Cryptic hasn't fix more serious and glaring issues l I wouldn't have much hope for this to ever get resolved.
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Why did you posted that? Now I won't have none to laugh at in the forums. You drove him away
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