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The question dodging video that put up a lot of red flags
pinchyskrii
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http://youtu.be/Z0E6Yw-M1YY?t=41m10s
7th February "So we haven't started talking about the monetisation strategy, yet"
"In our mind the way to make a successful free to play game, is the same way you make a successful non free to play game. You make an awesome game. You make an awesome game that people enjoy playing and that they have fun playing and they don't feel frustrated with"
Just listen to the dishonest question dodging. He also lied.
"There's a lot of models that we've seen that add frustration to the player experience, that's definitely not our goal.
Looks like you learned nothing from older games. Your goal was a early economy collapse, badly outdated and broken party, looting and chat system?
"So it's a little bit of a roundabout answer"
No, it's not. It completely ignores the question.
"When it's something that feels restrictive, that feels like er, it's holding back those people who are gonna love this game (the target audience, whales), that's not what we want to do.
"We look for ways to make people enjoy the experience and wanna hang around longer and want to be invested in the game."
Inventory space, bank space, enchants and the useless identifying system sure are good for contradicting that.
7th February "So we haven't started talking about the monetisation strategy, yet"
"In our mind the way to make a successful free to play game, is the same way you make a successful non free to play game. You make an awesome game. You make an awesome game that people enjoy playing and that they have fun playing and they don't feel frustrated with"
Just listen to the dishonest question dodging. He also lied.
"There's a lot of models that we've seen that add frustration to the player experience, that's definitely not our goal.
Looks like you learned nothing from older games. Your goal was a early economy collapse, badly outdated and broken party, looting and chat system?
"So it's a little bit of a roundabout answer"
No, it's not. It completely ignores the question.
"When it's something that feels restrictive, that feels like er, it's holding back those people who are gonna love this game (the target audience, whales), that's not what we want to do.
"We look for ways to make people enjoy the experience and wanna hang around longer and want to be invested in the game."
Inventory space, bank space, enchants and the useless identifying system sure are good for contradicting that.
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Give me a break dude. "Dishonest question dodging"? Just go play something else man. Why do you have to disparage this game and hurt the remaining people that enjoy it?
It's awful what all you complainers and conspiracy nuts are doing. Any potential player than comes here is going to read all you negative poison and not even download the game and try it.
Why are you all so vindictive because you got a free video game and didn't like it?
Well, PW/Cryptic, if that's your goal, then you need to seriously unlinearize the leveling content, because I simply can't stand to go through this railroad quest path again.
That's precisely what I'm going to do, since I've got more than one F2P game out available that are, IMO, superior to this thing.
Let your life proceed by its own designs
Nothing to tell
Let the words be yours, I'm done with mine ...
Did he answer the question?
No.
OMG, I got banned for exploiting, and had to create a new account to flame the game more. Am I doing it right?
He did answer the question. Even reading your cherrypicked responses I can see that he did. I can't help you if you can't see the answer in the video, and no, I'm not going to spend 2 hours breaking it down so my granddaughter could understand it. She's 10, so I might have to break it down quite a bit. Whether or not they are going on track for that remains to be seen, based on people feeling like every thing in the CS should be free, or next to it, but more will be revealed as time goes on, whether I'm still around to see it or not.
And why do you feel the need to enter every thread brandishing your forum sword? The devs do not need you fighting for them. You are just feeding the disgruntled.
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the drama
queen
No. I'm not banned. Weak strawman.
No.
No. They are also not cherry picked. That makes no sense at all. How can I cherry pick if I quote him word for word?
You can't help anyone because there was no answer to what you can buy just some crappy philosophical answer that dodges it.
Since you don't understand what cherry picking is, I will just have to leave you wondering what's going on in the video. It's really no great loss to me. I understood the implications in what he said, you didn't, and I'm not going to take the time to explain it. My sister is a school teacher, I am not.
If you really believe this particular company (PWE) and their minions (Cryptic) are going to be honest (p2w) then there's no point trying to discuss further, you are naive. I'll leave you with one clue: there is a history you are not taking into consideration.
Thanks
Glad I could help
"Sir, were now surrounded"!
Thats great news son, now we can attack from ALL sides"!
It would be "every one" which means a whole other thing, with or without cutting off the rest of the sentence.
You didn't prove a thing with that example.
No company is going to spell out the specifics about anything to John Q. Public.
We, in all dealings with any entity, will always be fed just enough information to shut us up or to keep us intrigued.
History is difficult to ignore, but it should not be the thing you fall back on to prove your point.
Not only have you not provided any specific examples of this history, but also by your logic, Dragon Age 2 would have been amazing.
Reticle not rectal.
PWE produces p2w games. All your money goes to China. Here ends the history lesson.
Grinding Gear Games did for Path of Exile.
The devs are actually doing a pretty good job. Yes there are bugs and things to be fixed but it's a whole game at the begining of it's journey, what did you expect ?
Most of the complains that I see around should actually be about the marketing (bad pricing, pay to win, etc etc), support (tickets closed without good answer, etc etc) and community management departments (the feedback isn't processed as it should, etc ). Things that developers can not control.
Here's what I do understand:
Video link claiming dev avoided questions, of course, the video shows something completely different, but hey, who am I to judge? It is then followed up with cherry picked answers to support "dodging" the question, despite the fact that the question is covered fairly well by the cherry picked response. Then it's "quoted him word for word"...except that he left out about 90% of the video for transcribing. However, from the OP, and it can't be cherry picking because, from the OP himself, I'm quoting this bit verbatim, right?
But Rob, the question isn't answered. Yes, it most certainly is: A successful free to play game will make money for the devs because people will spend money on it. This is stated implicitly in this quote, so how does that avoid answering the question? It doesn't, but, it does give somebody that doesn't understand it a "place to argue from" hoping that enough people on his bandwagon will shout down any naysayers. Start shouting. If English isn't your first language, I understand you missing the nuances of communication required to make the leap to "successful games make money".
^^ Pretty much sums up 99% of peoples' response to this absurd thread.
No. Just that one guy and you.