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Is Shill Bidding at the AH permissible, or considered an exploit?
lyokira
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Note: This is NOT about the legality of shill bidding, nor about the legality of shill bidding in specific parts of the world, as Neverwinter is a closed community and which does not use RL currencies in their AH.
This is just a simple question, which presumably have a simple yes/no answer. This is in relation to some individuals who has mentioned that they have friends bidding up the prices in AH, but is in no way accusing them of wrongdoing, as there is no answer at this time of whether shill bidding is allowed in the AH of Neverwinter.
I do not expect any individuals being named here, nor do I expect people arguing about the legality or morality of shill bidding, until we have a clear answer of whether it is permissible in Neverwinter.
This is just a simple question, which presumably have a simple yes/no answer. This is in relation to some individuals who has mentioned that they have friends bidding up the prices in AH, but is in no way accusing them of wrongdoing, as there is no answer at this time of whether shill bidding is allowed in the AH of Neverwinter.
I do not expect any individuals being named here, nor do I expect people arguing about the legality or morality of shill bidding, until we have a clear answer of whether it is permissible in Neverwinter.
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This is an open beta. Start treating it like one.
This is an open beta. Start treating it like one.
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Thanks, fixed error. Also, the spellcheck in my browser obviously needs updating.
This is an open beta. Start treating it like one.
This isn't reporting an exploit, I see no reason why it can't be answered here. It's something even the moderators can probably answer. No point spamming that other line, which is better suited to dealing with the many other issues they have currently.
This is an open beta. Start treating it like one.
moderators cannot answer what they do not know, since they do not work for the company.
I have no idea where you got the idea that they do not work for the company; Regardless of whether they are paid or not, they are providing services for the company. And I would presume that they should know what is and is not an exploit, after all, it makes it hard to block posts on exploits, if they don't know what counts as one.
This is an open beta. Start treating it like one.
They know as much as we do, since it's all right here:
http://www.perfectworld.com/about/terms
if you're too lazy to read through all that don't expect someone else to come and do it for you. You should still try and discuss this with customer service.
Placing an item for the bid of 1 is exploiting now...
I have read through, and it states that exploits are not allowed. It does not state what actions counts as exploits.
This is an open beta. Start treating it like one.
Good, we are on the same page then let me know when they respond to your ticket.
The funny thing is there is a thread not too long ago about a guy complaining that his auction that he placed at 1AD got sold during downtime, and he put buyout at 1 mil. I laugh when this stuff happens, just like i laughed when people used the neutral AH in WoW to transfer but then people bought their stuff they priced low. It's a risk you take.
This is an open beta. Start treating it like one.
I would suggest that you MAXimize your clarification.
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This is an open beta. Start treating it like one.
Probably get a suspension.
This is an open beta. Start treating it like one.
Yeah it is, unfortunately. Two different fees. They obviously have to pay the percent of the sale. But by placing the mid bid as 1 they avoid paying the posting fee. This lets them place a min bid of 1 and still avoid most of the risk.
Overall you shouldnt worry, for that practice to be considered exploit you would need to have a monopoly on item/s since you would be able to either lower or increase the price at your wish.
Shill - Slang, a confidence trickster's assistant, esp a person who poses as an ordinary customer, gambler, etc., in order to entice others to participate. Source: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Shill+bidding
Defraud - to use deceit, falsehoods, or trickery to obtain money, an object, rights or anything of value belonging to another. Source: http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/defraud
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