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Is Astral Shield still a problem at 60?
empiren
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I recently hit 50, and so far I've noticed Astral shield just ruins pvp for everyone. People just sit in that little circle, taking minimal damage and fight it out till one side(usually whoever has the least amount of clerics because the effect stacks) loses minutes later.
So the question is that is this still a problem at 60? Because in the 50-59 bracket it is broken in terms of balance in every regard.
Also: Am I the only one who thinks this should be a daily? If your going to let it stack reduce the duration and make it a daily so I'm not seeing 3-4 of these being continually laid down in the same spot every single fight.
I've quit pvp for today, hopefully I won't have to quit later entirely. I enjoy the game's pvp as it was, but now with astral shield it seems everyone's skills and playstyle are all revolving around a single skill on a single class. I understand that the cleric should have some damage reduction abilities, but having a 30% damage reduction stacking area is overkill, why not just give them short buff that last less than the cooldown and needs to be LoS cast? So there is some skill involved and they don't just lay it down and face-tank like they are now.
I'm sorry if I came off aggressive but it is infuriating to get to a higher level and realize that the entire pvp experience has been ruined for me because the devs have not bothered to fix this yet. I understand the AH exploit and afk pvp needed to be fixed, and of course they needed priority. But this also needs to be fixed in a timely manner, because it is just so outrageously broken atm.
So the question is that is this still a problem at 60? Because in the 50-59 bracket it is broken in terms of balance in every regard.
Also: Am I the only one who thinks this should be a daily? If your going to let it stack reduce the duration and make it a daily so I'm not seeing 3-4 of these being continually laid down in the same spot every single fight.
I've quit pvp for today, hopefully I won't have to quit later entirely. I enjoy the game's pvp as it was, but now with astral shield it seems everyone's skills and playstyle are all revolving around a single skill on a single class. I understand that the cleric should have some damage reduction abilities, but having a 30% damage reduction stacking area is overkill, why not just give them short buff that last less than the cooldown and needs to be LoS cast? So there is some skill involved and they don't just lay it down and face-tank like they are now.
I'm sorry if I came off aggressive but it is infuriating to get to a higher level and realize that the entire pvp experience has been ruined for me because the devs have not bothered to fix this yet. I understand the AH exploit and afk pvp needed to be fixed, and of course they needed priority. But this also needs to be fixed in a timely manner, because it is just so outrageously broken atm.
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So , if a tr silence/smokebomb the cleric , he will die before droping a circle , how fair is that?
You got so many push skills in the game , push them out of the circle , and kill.
Keep crying about that circle , and you will find yourself doing dungeons with pots on cooldown , if you are even gonna make it , and then you will cry how others got gear and done dungeons when you cannot.
Astral shield have only been a problem for unskilled players that lack fighting tactics.
I'm not a TR, but the problem are there for that class too, what if you come into the fight after he pops AS? Isn't that scenario completely on a 1v1 scenario? I'm not even sure TR have knockback, but I'm pretty sure they can't lockdown a person once they do. What about GWF, or GF, heck what about other clerics? This one skill breaks the gameplay mechanics of SO many skills its kind of silly that it isn't a daily.
Also, please try not to relate the problems to PVE and say "if we don't use this exploit we won't get gear" and then say that's the price we have to pay in PVP, that is just silly.
We don't necessarily have to kill the cleric because our goal is to capture more points. I believe, for situations such as these, that it would be best to abide by the original goal and mess the opponent up in other ways other than whacking at them.
The goal of PvP is to win and dominate, clerics are supporting their teammates, if you want to kill Clerics that cast AS, flank him up, then BOOM.
AS is for support, not for fighting or killing tactics in PvP ._.
Pffffffttt...
I want this class in NW.
I'm guessing you're trying to kill them inside the circle, I can also assume you try to face-roll a guarded GF for sure...
CW can push, DC can push, GF can push, GWF can push... so basically ANYONE except TR can push them out of the circle...
Seriously tho, Astral Shield lasts for a certain duration. All you need to do is learn the timing and it's really no problem at all. Also it's a defensive move... did you think you are meant to just be able to attack it? there are 3 points for a reason and there are push back moves that some classes have that negates Astral Shield.
Oh and PS, he will die if you actually use teamwork and burst him down. If you could effortlessly kill a Cleric while they're at their strongest, then how would clerics even be viable? You arguably can, with dailies and gear, but there's no reason as to why it should be faceroll.
I think Clerics have one of the best knock backs in the game. Sun Burst in Divine mode, It damages, heals and knocks back nicely..
clerics get and AoE heal dmg reduction, Rogues get Aoe Silence and crazy dps... Gear is what ruins lvl 60 pvp, all greens vs all t2+ team
Its not too strong in pvp, its players who are too stupid to use their CC and knockbacks, the circle doesn't follow cleric you know and cleric should not die to a single equally geared player, the healing build cleric that is. AS is only 20% dmg reduction+ heal, its strong, but so are many other encounters of many other classes.
Next time you go hell bent on a cleric inside the circle without bringing any kind of CC yourself.
QQmore rouge.. gtfo
but no, not really. It is nice, but at 60 there are enough people with CC/debuffs and high dmg to overrule it
Elf Control Wizard - Dragon
TL;DR AS is great if you don't know how to counter it.
And you forgot that pushback to prone IS a control/stun skill, which leaves GF just as effective as he was, d'oh!
And leave DPS to DPS classes, keep at control or don't QQ that you can't get clerics off AS if you are unwiling to use counter skills.
The skill that helps me the most are my ice skates to get out of the way
Our cleric was paying attention to the skill animations this cleric was using and figured out how to do the exploit. She has reported it and it's up to them to fix it.
Yes, but there's a way to make it so you use no energy while healing and can keep that effect up for much longer than the 15 seconds that it was intended to work for. I'm pretty sure you can figure it out.