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This Game Is Just Too Hard For Me!

klixanklixan Member Posts: 447 Bounty Hunter
edited May 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
I'm a solo player and I was so excited when I read that Neverwinter scales its difficulty based on the number of people in an instance. But sadly, I don't think it's working.

Now, I'm the first to admit, I'm not the best player in the world, but this game is the hardest and most frustrating I've ever played. I'm playing a Guardian Fighter (Rokuthy's spec) and I've just reached level 20. But the game has beaten me, I just don't want to play anymore.

I can't bear the thought of doing anymore quests or foundry missions, because the difficulty is just too high (for me anyway). I've tried just running dungeons and skirmishes with groups, but that isn't very much better and it gets very tedious, very fast.

So does anybody know if the difficulty scale 'thingy' is working as intended? Or is it broken?

If it's broken, I'll give the game another go when it's fixed, but if it's working as intended, then sadly, I'm afraid I'll have to say goodbye to Neverwinter.
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  • nemesis788450nemesis788450 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    what do you find hard? r u using a cleric companion?
  • zorpennzorpenn Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 146 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    Its not broken, and game is one of the easiest :)
    Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it.
  • nymesis92nymesis92 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 270 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    I hope to god your joking...
  • klixanklixan Member Posts: 447 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    I'm using the cleric companion and no, I'm not joking.

    But your responses are depressing, I must be an even worse player than I thought I was :(
  • terradraconisterradraconis Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    What class and companion are you using?

    I have to ask because my control wizard using a white cleric is waltzing through the game solo just fine.


    Ah I see guardian Fighter, Not certain of that one but you might want to have a cleric companion from the gold companion merchant if you don't have one currently. It can make a big difference in survivability. Also I'm not certain where you are but in open beta I ran an extra cloak tower dungeon to level to 21 before doing the pirates simply because they are a bit tough for a level 20. Might run a couple foundry missions to get to 21 as well. That seems to help.

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • nymesis92nymesis92 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 270 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    Sorry...I can't take this thread seriously...
  • maho4200maho4200 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 526 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    If you are having problems at level 20 you might as well quit now because at that point it is rather easy, it starts to get a lot harder at around 35.
    Neverwinter Online Open Beta is an ongoing success
  • zorpennzorpenn Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 146 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    Well, first of all, dont stand in red circles ;) As GF you can stand in most of them, but you should hold "shift button" to block incoming dmg.
    Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it.
  • terradraconisterradraconis Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    maho4200 wrote: »
    If you are having problems at level 20 you might as well quit now because at that point it is rather easy, it starts to get a lot harder at around 35.

    I remember going from the spell plague tower thingy to the next one at level 20 in closed beta and it was a bit rough. My understanding is that Guardian Fighter has some issues, though not having played one I don't know how much. So depending on where the OP is going they just might need another level or two. In open beta knowing about that bit of difficulty I took an extra level before going off to the next zone. Running an extra cloak tower or two, and running some foundry helps with that.

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • screamingpalmscreamingpalm Member Posts: 304 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    Common now, telling the OP to quit isn't the right answer. Just keep at it, if you are interested in improving, it will come. TBH I envy you OP, I love nothing more than a good challenge, which is few and far between for me in MMO's.
  • maho4200maho4200 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 526 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    What class and companion are you using?

    I have to ask because my control wizard using a white cleric is waltzing through the game solo just fine.


    Ah I see guardian Fighter, Not certain of that one but you might want to have a cleric companion from the gold companion merchant if you don't have one currently. It can make a big difference in survivability. Also I'm not certain where you are but in open beta I ran an extra cloak tower dungeon to level to 21 before doing the pirates simply because they are a bit tough for a level 20. Might run a couple foundry missions to get to 21 as well. That seems to help.
    Do you completely lack the ability to read?
    Neverwinter Online Open Beta is an ongoing success
  • yarknarfyarknarf Member Posts: 141 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I had to review your posts to see if you were joking OP.

    Not because it's impossible for the game to be difficult but because your tone seems so trollish.

    So you do seem to have expressed trouble with GF in other threads so I believe you.

    Why that class maybe?

    I know you re-rolled into GF but maybe try trickster rogue?

    Practice dodge.

    A lot.

    That may help with the bosses.

    M 2cp

    Don't give up yet.
  • littlewolfbearlittlewolfbear Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    he if u want help i can help u lvl a bit get u some gear help you out. So u will once again love the game :D its all about gear mostly lol
  • jorril2396jorril2396 Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Maybe its just the wrong class for you. Try another class but probably not gwf since thats not the easiest to level up.
  • zardoz007zardoz007 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Would suggest playing Rogue instead of GF for solo play, you have really high damage and lots of abilities to avoid damage. Rogue is a very straight forward hit and run type character but with GF you really need to know how to block and avoid enemy damage plus the class could still use some work as tanking is very difficult and you need to be damage specced just to have a hope of doing it ok.
  • gandynutilegandynutile Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    klixan wrote: »
    I'm a solo player and I was so excited when I read that Neverwinter scales its difficulty based on the number of people in an instance. But sadly, I don't think it's working.

    Now, I'm the first to admit, I'm not the best player in the world, but this game is the hardest and most frustrating I've ever played. I'm playing a Guardian Fighter (Rokuthy's spec) and I've just reached level 20. But the game has beaten me, I just don't want to play anymore.

    I can't bear the thought of doing anymore quests or foundry missions, because the difficulty is just too high (for me anyway). I've tried just running dungeons and skirmishes with groups, but that isn't very much better and it gets very tedious, very fast.

    So does anybody know if the difficulty scale 'thingy' is working as intended? Or is it broken?

    If it's broken, I'll give the game another go when it's fixed, but if it's working as intended, then sadly, I'm afraid I'll have to say goodbye to Neverwinter.

    As a guardian fighter who soloed nearly from 1 to 60, it's very, very easy, far more than for some other class which can have trouble on mini bosses.
    Just leave red circles and use guard (shift) at right moment. You will take no damages, and for the little health you will lose from time to time, take a cleric companion. You don't hit for much damages, but you touch several foes with your basic attacks. Profit.
  • roadkillaroadkilla Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I would try envy's dps spec it's less dependent on shield block and more fun imo.
  • atlantix1atlantix1 Member Posts: 74
    edited May 2013
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  • raghuuraghuu Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    well I know how you feel. I picked a cleric and soloed most of the game. Wasn't easy let me tell you, I died a lot. But I kept trying. You shouldn't give up too easily. I wanted to the first time. I picked a GF the first time too, cause I like that class. But I didn't do so good. So then I picked cleric. Still dying a lot but not as much as it. But yeah I think the rogue might have the easiest of luck. And we all can team up and help you if you need it. I certainly will. :D
  • terradraconisterradraconis Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Ok, I'm confused are you doing the solo mission path? Or are you just running foundry missions, skirmishes, and dungeons?

    If that is the case you may be not choosing your foundry missions well. Keep in mind that they are built and balanced by players not devs so if you just take them without checking them out carefully you could easily be taking missions designed for 2 - 5 players not 1 player. There seem to be a fair number of foundry missions designed for groups and not solo play.

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • adhreanadhrean Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    OP, my main is a Guardian Fighter, and while I strongly disagree with your sentiment, I have some tips to share to help you. Just my two cents.

    1. Guardian Fighters are great for solo play, the tools are there just know when to use them. BLOCK is VITAL for you. Throw it up ALL the time in every fight to keep your Hit Points up. It may be pressing SHIFT I think. (I keybind differently). While BLOCKING, you can still Attack by holding down the block button, and pressing left/right mouse clicks for attacks. Use this in fights where the are more than 1 mob, or even if it is one mob.

    2. MARK your targets often. Reduces Incoming Damage. Hit the TAB button to Mark. In boss fights this could be a real life saver. And in group play, it helps you keep threat.

    3. As many have said before me, use a Cleric for a companion. Not only do they keep you up fine, when your BLOCK is red and needs recharging, the Cleric will keep you up enough for you to start blocking again. TRAIN you companions asap when they are eligible.

    4. Potions. It may not be very clear cut, but this game in early levels or higher levels, is very potion-dependent for the causal solo player. Make sure you have enough, and use them when your hit points start to get dangerously low.

    5. Always keep your gear updated. Wear the items and equipment that are on level. GF's are very gear dependent. And sometimes, when it says 'Recommended' it doesn't always mean its the best for you. Play to your class strengths. For solo-ing, use items that have stats like AC, Deflection, Hit Points and Recovery. Life Steal can be good too. These are bread and butter for GF's.

    6. Injury. If you die often, always remember to use injury kits. If you continue running around with an injury, you enter combat in a weakened state(reduced maximum hit points/slowed movement). You can tell if you are injured or not by the icon of a body underneath you character portrait.

    I'm sure there are more tips, I'll let others chip in or I'll edit if I find i'm missing something.

    Don't give up just yet, try these tips and I hope you stick it out. Cheers
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  • debarsdebars Member Posts: 41
    edited May 2013
    only hard thing to deal with in this game is dealing with people in your group. That is if you get a correct group set up with the current dungeon finder first.
  • klixanklixan Member Posts: 447 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    Thank you so much for these tips guys. I tried very hard not to sound like a troll, but I really am struggling with the game.

    One thing I really do like about this game is the forum community, you may disagree with people, but you do so in a very nice way (it's such a wonderful change to what most game forums are like).

    Anyway, I'm going to try all your advice, I've only run the Cloak Tower once, so I'll repeat that a couple of times to get my level up. As for gear, I haven't bought anything yet (I'm just using whatever drops I find). At what level did you guys start investing in gear from the AH?

    @Terradraconis, you are right, I didn't notice that some Foundry missions are designed for groups. Duh! That is the trouble with a solo mindset, I just assume the content is solo friendly.

    @Adhrean, I've only just got Enhanced Mark, so I'll need to experiment and learn how to use it. Thanks heaps for the tips, hearing from another GF is worth its weight in gold.

    You guys have encouraged me to keep playing, thank you all.
  • questionorquestionor Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Silverstars Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    klixan wrote: »
    I tried very hard not to sound like a troll
    Yea that must be really hard for you.
  • runicfirunicfi Member Posts: 269 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    klixan wrote: »
    Thank you so much for these tips guys. I tried very hard not to sound like a troll, but I really am struggling with the game.

    One thing I really do like about this game is the forum community, you may disagree with people, but you do so in a very nice way (it's such a wonderful change to what most game forums are like).

    Anyway, I'm going to try all your advice, I've only run the Cloak Tower once, so I'll repeat that a couple of times to get my level up. As for gear, I haven't bought anything yet (I'm just using whatever drops I find). At what level did you guys start investing in gear from the AH?

    @Terradraconis, you are right, I didn't notice that some Foundry missions are designed for groups. Duh! That is the trouble with a solo mindset, I just assume the content is solo friendly.

    @Adhrean, I've only just got Enhanced Mark, so I'll need to experiment and learn how to use it. Thanks heaps for the tips, hearing from another GF is worth its weight in gold.

    You guys have encouraged me to keep playing, thank you all.

    It just sounds to me you're unexperienced with MMO's or something similiar, because leveling in this game certainly is easier than in World of Warcraft. I got my Guardian Fighter to lvl60 in 3 days. It's definetly doable, and when you get your play right it's rather easy.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • galdraegaldrae Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I find the game pretty difficult at times too especially with a lot of adds. You can group up for the solo instances I know you say you are a solo player but perhaps when one is to hard just ask in general, hopefully someone else finds them difficult and will group/

    I have a guardian fighter at level 45 and i'm broke from all the health pots i needed. seemed to me a lot of boss fights involved running away from the boss and drinking potions then fight it a bit more, run away drink more potions and so on.
  • klixanklixan Member Posts: 447 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    It just sounds to me you're unexperienced with MMO's or something similiar, because leveling in this game certainly is easier than in World of Warcraft. I got my Guardian Fighter to lvl60 in 3 days. It's definetly doable, and when you get your play right it's rather easy.

    You're quite right about this, I'm a single player. Baldur's Gate, Dragon Age, Neverwinter Nights, even the first two Diablo games. I don't really like MMO's, but sadly, this seems to be the way the game's industry is going.

    But how could I resist a game set in the Forgotten Realms? I just had to try it, even if I can't help wishing at every turn that this was still a single player game (with modding tools!) like the first two Neverwinter games.
  • sadmummysadmummy Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    The higher the level, the harder. I didn't use a single potion until level 30. At 50 I'm drinking potions every pull in foundry quests. So if you find it hard at 20....
    I'm a GF too

    Use your dailies all the time, GF generate AP much faster than the other classes I've tried.
    Enemi animations are usually slow, block their attacks. You have to learn your animations too.
    Big enemy attacks with red zones can be usually just dodged by moving away or even just stunning the enemy.
    Use potions, they drop a lot. I haven't bought a single potion while leveling to 51, and since 30 I use them all the time.
  • klixanklixan Member Posts: 447 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    The higher the level, the harder. I didn't use a single potion until level 30. At 50 I'm drinking potions every pull in foundry quests. So if you find it hard at 20....
    I'm a GF too

    Bummer! That's what I'm afraid of.

    I suppose I could try rolling a Trickster Rogue as suggested, but I'm very worried the rogue is going to be nerfed (instead of the other classes being improved) and then I'll be back to square one.
  • agent2090agent2090 Member Posts: 40
    edited May 2013
    I'm finding this game to be fairly easy, although that may change considering I'm barely halfway through the levels. It all really depends on your play style (what you're good at). I've never been good at being a tank class, so if I was a GF, I'd probably be going through the same frustrations as you are. As a TR I'm finding things to be a bit too easy, so I may switch again to try to find a class that challenges me but isn't impossible.

    Test other classes to see how you like them. It can be time consuming but it is really worth it if/when you find a class that's just right for you. Of course, you may find that you don't like any of the available classes. That's when I just find another game to play. Some games just aren't for you (pretty much any FPS game in my case), and it's better to find an alternative than deal with the frustration. If I'm not having fun, I don't want to play the game.
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