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Beta was fun, but way to easy.
tsaaby
Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 5 Arc User
Im not sure if it can be discussed here, so I will not go into detail. But this game really needs to get harder, alot harder.
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First death at level 24 I think it was. at 32 some of the encounters was really hard and involved alot of kiting and potion spamming
It's my understanding that they upped the difficulty from beta weekend 1. I can't speak for the other classes though since I only tried the CW. But solo, the difficulty is just right.
What level did you reach? because game starts to get more challenging at lvl 30 onward. The current difficulty is all right and the way it should be. Making early levels hard is a bad idea for the majority of players.
It was a beta test. Not a difficulty test. The XP was ramped and the mobs were easy as a result.
I dont think thats the case unless they plan to add more quests or expect players to grind mobs for xp. Up until L20 I was doing quests of my level, after that I actually fell behind a bit and was -1 or -2 to the quest levels.
then leveling to 26 with lvl 18 gears was rough because still waiting to equip them 26 gears.
after i equip 26 gears everything uptill 33 was easy. human rogue
33 is far as i got though, so yea maybe will need to adjust some more difficulty after 26-28 hence lots of gears are allotted around 26
If Cryptic is true to form, they'll probably put in a difficulty slider of some kind at some point. Granted, it will probably only affect instances, but instances seem to be frequent enough here that you'll feel the difference.
The gorilla formerly known as Kolikos
started off simply then got hard as got into the game.
I died at black dagger after healing a very respectable 270,878 HP with my elf cleric Aurora Blight.
The game does ramp up its difficulty significantly in the mid-twenties, and it increases appropriately before that, too.
If you want difficult, have fun with Malus Blackdagger in the skirmish. That guy does not mess around.
Every time I did that skirmish people in the group were all "Is this supposed to take this long?"
The difficulty is fine...
In the mid-20's. That is a lot of easy game up to that point. Being in a group isn't a bad thing. I think the open area's could be debated on should they be easy or challenging. The easy side says, well that could be solo'ers they need to make it through. The flip coin is anyone can contribute to the kill like GW2, so you can pseudo group to get past more difficult area's. I noticed they max player in these open world instances was rather small, if they can increase that to a point, a solor'er in an open area doesn't have to be considered solo, but in general free for all play.
The game does seem to be gradually increasing in difficulty level.
Gear wise there are some level 20 blues you can buy from NPCs. Touching up gear holes with them seems to help out. I would only spend money on slots you have had a hard time updating though, otherwise even the green 24s start to compare.
let's face it..like many of the MMO's that come out .. we play them we beat them and move on to the next..
Not many games today will hold your attention for a long period of time .. like for me EQ1 did or Daoc..
Not spaming here or disliking this game.. i plan and will play this till i beat it with friends and enjoy it ..
The only thing i can see myself doing to a great extent is the Foundry creating player content
Feel free to spam
All classes were needed in 5 man dungeons.
The game felt fun. This is definitely the sweet spot, don't change a thing. (except for Control Wizard, that class needs a buff - longer control, more aoe).
Also fix the Control Wizard and Cleric dodge skills (teleports) - those two have teleports that don't calculate whether mob hit landed until the animation is finished - it was more reliable to just manually move out of the way of an attack (stepping aside), because the teleport animations took too long and the mob's hit generally landed because of this waiting till animation finished issue.
You did not play the control wizard.
They can make it good for both worlds, if they would make two different types of servers:
One for causal gamers
One for hardcore gamers
They could also truly separate PVP vs. PVE, so a nerf bat doesn’t hit the PVE players.
Anyways +1 for making it a little bit harder, it does wear the D&D label. Also MMO’s weren’t designed to have an ending, but here we are…. I prefer open end games more than closed ended.
Just my two cents
I played as a halfling rogue and just ran through the content. I did all the side quests, but I still was always way under leveled compared to the areas I was fighting. At one point I was lvl 26 and getting level 34 equipment!
That did seem to fix itself a bit though around lvl 31...EQ was still a few levels higher, but a couple of the quests gave nice chunks of exp (4.8k or so) and that leveled me up 2 levels fairly fast.
I died once along the way...but it's really a bug that killed me. One of the boss fights (don't even remember which one) ended with a win (me killing the boss) but after killing him there was a freaaaaking swarm of enemies left over. They all ganged up on me and killed me before I could say "eeep!!". Made me have to run all the way back from the start of the dungeon......at which point all the minions were gone and I just had to open the chest. Was annoying.
Other then that I did the run through the game without using stealth at all. I found stealth to be an easy button in the last beta. Used in combo with the stealth regen abilities and regen stealth when you dodge, I could stay in it almost constantly and solo no enemies would attack me at all.
So this time I just grabbed a man at arms and used bait and switch, the first "daze" attack that stuns (can even hit more then one) and the hard hitting lacerate ability. I ran through with the primary flourish at will, and the rain of daggers at will (which is amazingly good at killing bosses while you heal etc).
Difficulty was pretty good that way once you got past the early levels though. I had to dodge around and wait for potion cool downs a few times on boss fights..and really work hard to stay alive. Difficulty would have been a bit less if I was getting lvl 22-28 gear when I could use it instead of eq 6-10 levels above me. I believe I ended up in the 31+ area (based on last beta's end point) at level 26....so the exp for finishing quests was not keeping up with the level expected this weekend. Perhaps grinding/foundry quests or events were expected to be played. I did all the side quests along the way, so didn't miss any quest exp.
Potion use got a bit better the further I went. The first "lesser potions" I ended up with like 60+ extra by the time I switched to the next level of potions. I only had like 30 of those before I switched to the healing potions..which is what I was using at the end (greater potions had dropped but only like 14 of them, so I hadn't switched yet). I had like 20 something of the healing potions when I stopped playing. I would just fill all of my item slots with the same potion type so if I needed to heal quickly, I never hit the wrong button (3-5 was all healing potions).
I played with a man at arms...who got to around level 20 I think. I would just rush level him each time he got enough exp with my astral diamonds. Was really the only use I found for astral diamonds so far really...especially since you level so fast. With such a fast leveling rate I'm not sure how crafting, buying eq off the auction house or using the seals you get for dungeons is going to matter much. Will people spend the extra time to get a bit better eq that will only be better for an hour or 2 at max....especially if it's not really needed to complete the quests content?
I still found the bonuses (especially from stats) a bit meh). Life steal, power etc...all add a fairly small amount..although it does get better later on (think my power was adding like 30 damage or something...and my base was 177-200 per weapon...and crit was adding like 7% crit). Movement speed only ever added 2% to runspeed I think...so even stacked on 3 pieces of EQ...it just didn't seem worth it. HP bonus was fairly nice even high level if you got it on multiple pieces (each added like 4% max hp....or so). Regen and life steal were really not making any difference though...and you needed waaay to much life steal to even notice it.
This weekend EQ was......not dropping always according to the level you were, partially do to leveling too slow compared to the level of content. What this really showed though was that you could totally fight in lvl 31 areas with a level 26 character who was wielding level 20-24 equipment...without a huge increase in difficulty. It made EQ seem.....unimportant I guess. I often would just sell everything ever though I could use the equipment in another 4-5 levels. I figured I would get more by then (of course by then the EQ that was dropping was 4-5 levels higher again lol). I think EQ needs to be more important/difference from level to level so you can't just ignore upgraded for 4+ levels. I think we need to gain a stat point every level instead of the current setup, and perhaps increase how much difference the stat points make. Double con's hp bonus and give the resistence bonus to all characters (not just con primary ones). Double strengths bonuses across the board. Same with cha/int/wis and even dex. Add more stat point choices in so players feel like they can create their characters...and have a direct impact on how each character plays.
At character creation, have pre-set starting points like now...that you can pick/roll through....but also give each character 4 stat points they can allocate anyway they want...again giving them more options in how they make a character.
I also never saw a reason to use gold except for purchasing my mount (and in live I think i'll get my mount free as a founder?) I mean, the stores sold stuff...and I guess if I had bothered to go to the market I could have bought eq for those levels when I didn't get any lvl appropriate EQ...but it wasn't needed so I never bothered buying anything with gold (or astral diamonds).
I think it would be good to increase the differences at each level (bonus stat point to be placed per level, eq differences are larger per level etc) and then slow down the leveling...requiring players to do foundry missions etc in order to level up to the right point for the next content (although still let them move forward if they want the extra difficulty).
Alot of my difficulty may have come through doing content at a much lower level then was intended. Allowing players to move ahead faster would give them an option in how difficulty the game is...solving the whole difficulty problem fairly easily.
Was a fun beta weekend. I didn't play hard core (10+ hours a day)...like I would probably on a real launch, but I still feel like I got a majority of the way through the games content. Even casual players (10 or less hours a week) would easily make it through that content in a month, so more needs to be added (more content...not higher levels etc...just more content per level up...more quests etc basically) to make the game last a fairly long time.
I wish I could have tried my rogue from the first beta because I had no problems with him getting to 30 last time, with a lot less pot chugging, and was wondering about the difficulty being different this round.
We haven't seen any content for the last 20 levels. It would be wise to reserve judgment on the overall difficulty until we experience the entire game. That is just my 2 cents.