New mythic comps feedback

stark760 · August 2022

Some feedback from the new comps from everyone:
1)They should be universal slots like the golden comps, not restricted to 2 that are offense, 1 defense, 1 utility only. Why is the only 7.5% accuracy comp, that comes as mythic, not usable on a utility or defense slot.
2)they are supposed to be "iconic". a dedicated squire companion should not outheal Linu, which campaign currency was based, or a defense comp be better than elminster shield that has 1/2 uptime, and why is he not a dps comp.
3)the randomness of pack. not being able to choose if spending 6k zen is garbage.

So, first thoughts, the comps aren't univerisal, so almost no dps is going to slot them over neverember guard and batiri, or drizzt/wulfgar combo/etc. For endgame builds, the accuracy finally shown, is wasted as wont be used.
Second, they aren't that good if summoned. Going to leave that alone for now.
Third, pack is RNG of 1/4 at $60 each. Id rather you charge more and have the choice and no legendary packs, which people have 1-2 already, and have to sell.
I like the additions, but they should be the "best" at what they do, an underling should not be a better comp than a iconic lore character(intellect devourer and grazilaxx good illustration) which campaigns/quests were involved.

Input is welcomed

rikitaki · August 2022

I have mixed feelings about this addition.
1. Pricy RNG again
2. companion ACB: Shielding is underwhelming and therefore pointless. Accu is welcomed as unique. OH+Forte on an account wide mythic is actually surprisingly awesome for future healers. Lich Makos - god, what a confrontational choice! You nerfed self healing to... now sell it for premium? Great. Just a question: Is it again just a secretly temporary arrangement like with the movement speed on enchants - and you already do plan to change it in the near future to some random useless thing?
3. Use as an active companion: Surprisingly balanced, showing a proper drop in DPS for the control and healing companion. But these new additions fall short in performance to some older companions, while vastly overshadowing others. Simply, they are kinda average and bland in face of many over-or-underwhelming competitors. Releasing "standard" in a lawless place is not gonna cut it. Btw, just to have a kick to the botched enchantment rework: Using the companion gem for these new companions is pretty pointless.

Generally, account wide mythics are good for anyone trying to raise bolster in alts, bundling them with two legendaries shows that players focused on developing alts might indeed be the target audience. But I am not sure if the current in-game situation was exactly thirsty for such pack.
The ACBs are a mixed bag and the active use is pointless in current situation. - I kinda consider this mostly as an addition for collector's and role-players, which, to be honest, is a good thing. Pay-to-win is kinda acceptable in the fashion department.

stark760 · August 2022

My biggest problem with the Linu comp, is that only usable on utility. I was also really hoping for an outgoing healing/power comp finally. The forte bonus for a healer, you get divinity regen, which between 50% forte and 65% forte, comes out 2-3 extra divinity every 3 secs in combat for 15% forte, 3.8% will be almost nothing. Most healers need power and slot a compy for 7.5% power in utility, so most healers arent going to use it slotted.

silente07 · August 2022

It’s a Random pack for the mythics. No choice.
My fault really, I was finally excited about the game again and Linu is my favorite NPC and in my excitement I didn’t read.
So on a 60$ pack it’s RNG.
To say I’m angry and disappointed is an understatement.

But I’m not surprised.

I should t have spent the money, times are tight, but that dopamin rush.

The HUGE disappointment afterwards and bitterness towards the game though was a familiar feeling.

I’ll try and sell the pos companion I got since it’s not useable for my healing or Tank mains.

Lesson learned.

Way to stick it to the players though. RNG on a 60$ pack and that’s with the discount.

You cured me though. Next time I want to spend some cash I’ll remember this and save myself the $$.

masteryoda · August 2022

With today's economic climate $60 for RNG pixels is daylight robbery especially when they are meh items that offer little to no benefit to anyone, I mean really who spends $60 to pull 2 items from a lucky dip which doesn't have any real benefits, no one would do this in real life so why do people do it for pixels, pixels that have no value once the game stops live survice, I mean you can buy a whole new game for that price and you get alot more from a whole game of pixels than you would get from 2 RNG items.

plasticbat · August 2022

masteryoda#6623 said:
With today's economic climate $60 for RNG pixels is daylight robbery especially when they are meh items that offer little to no benefit to anyone

Well, that is for those who are rich. I personally do not see it worth Zen (definitely not worth for real money). I can foresee it will be available in a much cheaper rate in the future.

In the current economic climate, rich becomes richer.

silente07 · August 2022

Definitely feel cheated. It was my own stupidity for not reading. But super bad taste.
I did want to treat myself and Linu always makes me smile and these days it’s rare to have something to smile about. I was really jazzed to be able to have her as a companion. Now I’m just bitter and my opinion of this game and company has collapsed.

Is what it is. Serves me right for not paying attention to what this company is doing, because it’s never in our favor.

plasticbat · August 2022

I would not buy it even if it is a choice pack. If it has all 4 (that was what I thought when I first saw it), then yes. What I want is the mythic account wide companion(s). What it really is does not really matter to me. If it is something great, it is a bonus.

callumf · August 2022

silente07#2597 said:
Definitely feel cheated. It was my own stupidity for not reading. But super bad taste.
I did want to treat myself and Linu always makes me smile and these days it’s rare to have something to smile about. I was really jazzed to be able to have her as a companion. Now I’m just bitter and my opinion of this game and company has collapsed.

Is what it is. Serves me right for not paying attention to what this company is doing, because it’s never in our favor.

So if you bought 4 could you get 4 of the same companions i.e. ones you dont want? If so then wow, that is even worse!!!

plasticbat · August 2022

callumf#9018 said:

silente07#2597 said:
Definitely feel cheated. It was my own stupidity for not reading. But super bad taste.
I did want to treat myself and Linu always makes me smile and these days it’s rare to have something to smile about. I was really jazzed to be able to have her as a companion. Now I’m just bitter and my opinion of this game and company has collapsed.

Is what it is. Serves me right for not paying attention to what this company is doing, because it’s never in our favor.
So if you bought 4 could you get 4 of the same companions i.e. ones you dont want? If so then wow, that is even worse!!!

Or, 3 different companions except the one he wants.

masteryoda · August 2022

callumf#9018 said:

silente07#2597 said:
Definitely feel cheated. It was my own stupidity for not reading. But super bad taste.
I did want to treat myself and Linu always makes me smile and these days it’s rare to have something to smile about. I was really jazzed to be able to have her as a companion. Now I’m just bitter and my opinion of this game and company has collapsed.

Is what it is. Serves me right for not paying attention to what this company is doing, because it’s never in our favor.
So if you bought 4 could you get 4 of the same companions i.e. ones you dont want? If so then wow, that is even worse!!!

Yup precisely

trinity706 · August 2022

stark760 said:
3)the randomness of pack. not being able to choose if spending 6k zen is garbage.

$60 for RNG hits hard.

Players would probably be better off getting 11k ZEN for $99, converting it to AD (8.25 million) and buying Elminster, Makos and Linu from the trade house if they are interested in multiple companions from the pack. Currently on PS4 the aforementioned three companions are around 11 million AD total while Jarlaxle alone is around 6.25 million AD.

fritz · August 2022

RNG for such a pack sucks. Let players choose. It's especially awesome since 2.5 companions are essentially collectibles because their abilities aren't gameplay relevant atm. I bought a few because I like having a 65k alt army ready just in case. You can already achieve 100% Mount Bolster from account unlocks and the new Mythics brings very close to 100% Companion Bolster out of the box as well.

silente07 · August 2022

Yeah its a huge waste of resources.

Turned something that could have been really fun into a really bad experience.

And yes, last companion pack you got everyone.

Sign of the times. Pay more to get less.

plasticbat · August 2022

silente07#2597 said:
Yeah its a huge waste of resources.

Turned something that could have been really fun into a really bad experience.

And yes, last companion pack you got everyone.

Sign of the times. Pay more to get less.

But the last companion pack was not mythic companion. I believe the last pack that had mythic companion (the one with golden xyz) was not a choice pack neither.

stark760 · August 2022

plasticbat said:

silente07#2597 said:
Yeah its a huge waste of resources.

Turned something that could have been really fun into a really bad experience.

And yes, last companion pack you got everyone.

Sign of the times. Pay more to get less.
But the last companion pack was not mythic companion. I believe the last pack that had mythic companion (the one with golden xyz) was not a choice pack neither.

They released it after random buy(like this one) as a solo buy i believe, golden's were also in the knox pack.

strathkin · September 2022

silente07#2597 said:
It’s a Random pack for the mythics. No choice.
My fault really, I was finally excited about the game again and Linu is my favorite NPC and in my excitement I didn’t read.
So on a 60$ pack it’s RNG.
To say I’m angry and disappointed is an understatement.

But I’m not surprised.

I should t have spent the money, times are tight, but that dopamin rush.

The HUGE disappointment afterwards and bitterness towards the game though was a familiar feeling.

I’ll try and sell the pos companion I got since it’s not useable for my healing or Tank mains.

Lesson learned.

Way to stick it to the players though. RNG on a 60$ pack and that’s with the discount.

You cured me though. Next time I want to spend some cash I’ll remember this and save myself the $$.

Well the best you can do is sell the one you got, then perhaps save a little bit more for Linu who you'd like.

That's about the best plan you can consider.

regenerde · September 2022

strathkin said:

silente07#2597 said:
It’s a Random pack for the mythics. No choice.
My fault really, I was finally excited about the game again and Linu is my favorite NPC and in my excitement I didn’t read.
So on a 60$ pack it’s RNG.
To say I’m angry and disappointed is an understatement.

But I’m not surprised.

I should t have spent the money, times are tight, but that dopamin rush.

The HUGE disappointment afterwards and bitterness towards the game though was a familiar feeling.

I’ll try and sell the pos companion I got since it’s not useable for my healing or Tank mains.

Lesson learned.

Way to stick it to the players though. RNG on a 60$ pack and that’s with the discount.

You cured me though. Next time I want to spend some cash I’ll remember this and save myself the $$.
Well the best you can do is sell the one you got, then perhaps save a little bit more for Linu who you'd like.

That's about the best plan you can consider.

Well, in that situation it's hard to suggest the "right" thing to do - it might be better to wait for a while before trying to sell those companions, because everyone else is probably also trying to unload them as soon as possible - prices might increase again, but they might also drop significantly, if they release another mythic companion pack or lockbox with better new companions in it.

I'd say looking at the new lockboxes and this whole RNG nonsense with new companion packs, sticking to ViP, opening older lockboxes and selling the stuff you get from them would have been an better way for buying the one companion you really want.

Anyway, i don't get what they're thinking here, they might make a short term profit here with selling these RNG packs, but it's probably going to cost them players and therefore money in the long run - angry players tend to stop spending more money on a game, and they're not going to recommend the game to other players either...

stark760 · September 2022

regenerde said:

strathkin said:

silente07#2597 said:
It’s a Random pack for the mythics. No choice.
My fault really, I was finally excited about the game again and Linu is my favorite NPC and in my excitement I didn’t read.
So on a 60$ pack it’s RNG.
To say I’m angry and disappointed is an understatement.

But I’m not surprised.

I should t have spent the money, times are tight, but that dopamin rush.

The HUGE disappointment afterwards and bitterness towards the game though was a familiar feeling.

I’ll try and sell the pos companion I got since it’s not useable for my healing or Tank mains.

Lesson learned.

Way to stick it to the players though. RNG on a 60$ pack and that’s with the discount.

You cured me though. Next time I want to spend some cash I’ll remember this and save myself the $$.
Well the best you can do is sell the one you got, then perhaps save a little bit more for Linu who you'd like.

That's about the best plan you can consider.
Well, in that situation it's hard to suggest the "right" thing to do - it might be better to wait for a while before trying to sell those companions, because everyone else is probably also trying to unload them as soon as possible - prices might increase again, but they might also drop significantly, if they release another mythic companion pack or lockbox with better new companions in it.

I'd say looking at the new lockboxes and this whole RNG nonsense with new companion packs, sticking to ViP, opening older lockboxes and selling the stuff you get from them would have been an better way for buying the one companion you really want.

Anyway, i don't get what they're thinking here, they might make a short term profit here with selling these RNG packs, but it's probably going to cost them players and therefore money in the long run - angry players tend to stop spending more money on a game, and they're not going to recommend the game to other players either...

I know that most of what they do is driven by revenue. They put legends into the game and made them meh. Then the pack not having choice. Poorly conceived and "legends" I think deserved more, as well did the player base.

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