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  • anomaleaanomalea Member Posts: 87 Arc User
    I play left-handed and use the arrow keys to move. Going into performance mode overrides these with octave and half-step controls. Remapping these to movement doesn't work. Every time I go into performance mode I'm locked in place. Won't be able to play this class in higher content.
  • pazarkpazark Member Posts: 14 Arc User
    I have issues performing songs when I'm disguised, e.g. Vanrakdoom (see pic) and during one of the first tasks in Undermountain (Xanathar and Cult disguise). This was reported earlier and now I had the same experience in Vanrakdoom.
  • nova#2306 nova Member Posts: 140 Arc User
    All Bard heals/buffs do NOT work outside of party. Making the Bard seem very alone in open world zone content
    Bard Weapons M11 aren't accessible

    Shelter Etude - isn't working as intended - doesn't apply if you cast it again as tooltip implies
    Flourish - trigger for it seems wacky as double press of the button is needed to apply the effect
    Warding Carol - doesn't remove any negative effects from any player anymore. It use to in preview. The only place it removes negative effects are Demogorgon.. (please consider how it worked prior)


    Gambler Feat:
    - Heal Mag increased/dependent on the amount of Gambler stacks you have
    - Allow Gambler's to be used in conjuction with Delayed Play (having 2 Gambler's on at once)

    Reprise Carol:

    - Critical Severity - I think can be changed to 4% increase damage per stack (20% at max) making it a comparable to Storyteller's Feat

    As it stands, the Gambler's feat, while it looks INCREDIBLE, it's actually not as good as it look. I think some simple changes could prove useful for the class.


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  • mamalion1234mamalion1234 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,363 Arc User
    edited August 2021
    nova#2306 said:

    All Bard heals/buffs do NOT work outside of party. Making the Bard seem very alone in open world zone content
    Bard Weapons M11 aren't accessible

    Shelter Etude - isn't working as intended - doesn't apply if you cast it again as tooltip implies
    Flourish - trigger for it seems wacky as double press of the button is needed to apply the effect
    Warding Carol - doesn't remove any negative effects from any player anymore. It use to in preview. The only place it removes negative effects are Demogorgon.. (please consider how it worked prior)


    Gambler Feat:
    - Heal Mag increased/dependent on the amount of Gambler stacks you have
    - Allow Gambler's to be used in conjuction with Delayed Play (having 2 Gambler's on at once)

    Reprise Carol:

    - Critical Severity - I think can be changed to 4% increase damage per stack (20% at max) making it a comparable to Storyteller's Feat

    As it stands, the Gambler's feat, while it looks INCREDIBLE, it's actually not as good as it look. I think some simple changes could prove useful for the class.


  • aster#8001 aster Member Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited August 2021
    Hello @nitocris83 and @sgrantdev
    Here I write feedbacks and bugs only for BARD HEALER

    1)The major issue regarding performance mechanic: after played a song, you have 1.5 seconds of cooldown where you are not able to use noone of your powers (no encounter, no atwills, no daily, no artefact, no power mount, no potion) and that means that it will be very difficult to keep allies alive, especially in some hard content like VoS HC, or in some situations where you need to give mitigations (like Whitenoise in Zariel Master, or heatwave or storm phase in ToMM).
    This cooldown after playing a song makes the class significantly clunky. As a bard healer you are supposed to keep playing songs to buff and heal with songs or your at will. If people take a lot of damage when you are locked after playing a song, you are doomed to watch them use potion/health stone to refill their hp or wathcin them died.

    -Feedback: mysuggestions is totally removing this cooldown; another way to fix it would be to make songs apply right after you play the last note, instead of applying when your character exists Performance Mode


    2) We can see the duration of some songs like blaze flamenco, rejuvenating carol and warding carol.
    However we can't see sheltering etude song's (it appear in buff bar but is not easy to check when it effect goes away I suggested to add shelterin etude icon in performance bar. 3) also add storyteller feat to our buff bar to watch when it procs and then goes away.



    4)Forte bard is NOW performance regen, critical severity and deflect severity.
    Considering we have CRITICAL TUNING that giving us 10% of critical severity after playing a song that is not in quick play slot., a bard healer can stay at 80% of critical severity.

    i would say it should be critical strike on offense and maybe awarness/critical avoidance forte.
    Another solution can be changing Critical Tuning to 10% Critical Strike.
    .




    5) bard AoE healing are to low and insignificant, especially for endgame contents.

    Our main resources for healing allies are:
    - Rejuvenating carol (SONG): it got a magnitude heal buff, but even with a max toon, with right stats, the ammount of the healing is close to 52k (my max and critical) every 3 second for 30 seconds. I suggested to buff again the heal magnitude by 100/150 at least. This power heal is really low and doesnt help you and your party. Also because bard healer doesnt give Damage resistance to dps side (only if you use one daily), and that and this makes healing really difficult..

    - Aurora Fantasia (SONG): we just talked about this songs, that is really useless for bard healer because it has really a low heal magnitude (10/12k max healing hit for hits).

    I suggest to completely rework Aurora Fantasia in "after playing this song all ur allies gain 5-10% Damage resistance".

    -Arpeggio (Atwill): this is our main and only, atwills/encounter, that heals allies. Have only 1 problem to be fixed: this heals companions and mirage clones, and has a target cap of 15. so sometimes you wont be able to heal players depending on how close they are to you. it shouldnt be able to heal companions and mirage clones, like was did for healing word, divine shelter and rivitalize after I opened a thread





    bugs:
    °flourish & bassline: sometimes they cancel for no reason and you have to cast them multiple times.
    °Harmonize:it doesnt work when you play songs so that means you cant generate AP by playing songs and i think its a bug
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    Post edited by aster#8001 on
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  • ruhig#1511 ruhig Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    I reported the below information through the ticket system and was asked to re-report here for devs to see. I have seen at least one other person already mention something similar. (Tickets #568080 & #571940)

    After the patch/maintenance on 8/05/21 the Wayward Bard's Puffy Shirt does not have an appearance when previewed or equipped. I have switched out appearance items and the other few I have on her work. I have tried removing the custom colors, but there was no change.
    https://photos.google.com/u/0/photo/AF1QipMfJJ8ImhPgQHj1c11yYmUX5N79gsW8KKWoe7s_


    There is also a problem with the Valiant Wayfarer's Clothing. It wants to be equipped in place of armor, can't be previewed, can't be converted to an appearance item and has no appearance once equipped. The hat is the only piece that can be seen.
    https://photos.google.com/u/0/photo/AF1QipOCayPo62qoE4O9X2KAv4ID4fgYjQlCa_v0RC5o
    https://photos.google.com/u/0/photo/AF1QipPMdFqc2ez6sm0fpOuUq5wblr92d5W3_7oxCTyK

    Thanks for looking into this issue.

  • voldiarvoldiar Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited August 2021
    OK this post is related with Bard's Artifact. The recharge speed is on 180 sec on mytic, and must be on 60 sec.


  • nova#2306 nova Member Posts: 140 Arc User
    Bard Minstrel - Natural Talents: Unlocks additional quick play slot
    Doesn't actually grant +1 Quick Play. Started happening today in Castle Never. Death did not fix it. Had to relog in the game


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  • voldiarvoldiar Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    nova#2306 said:

    Bard Minstrel - Natural Talents: Unlocks additional quick play slot
    Doesn't actually grant +1 Quick Play. Started happening today in Castle Never. Death did not fix it. Had to relog in the game


    You dont have to relog, if you play song, quit, wait 20 sec and then play again you get 2 quick slot again. I hope this help you. :)
  • xenocide#6577 xenocide Member Posts: 209 Arc User
    Bard does not have any hellfire weapons in the path of the fallen campaign store.
  • xenocide#6577 xenocide Member Posts: 209 Arc User
    Bard also does not have celestial weapons in the path of the fallen campaign store
  • jonchillyjonchilly Member Posts: 33 Arc User
    Fleche could really do with having the third animation sped up a bit, its very hard when locked in place waiting for a twirl to happen which i take it does the main portion of the at will hit. Improving this cast time of the third part of the animation would make it a smoother gameplay.
  • feebleolinusfeebleolinus Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    Hello guys, there's no Weapons available in the Cloaked Ascendancy Campaign Store: https://imgur.com/56BAFSU
  • ramava#2043 ramava Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    pazark said:

    I have issues performing songs when I'm disguised, e.g. Vanrakdoom (see pic) and during one of the first tasks in Undermountain (Xanathar and Cult disguise). This was reported earlier and now I had the same experience in Vanrakdoom.

    I'm not sure if the other disguise bug I found has been reported or not. In Maze Engine (that or Dwarf King), when you are disguised as a Drow, I was completely unable to perform any songs, in addition to broken animations and combat actions not animating at all.
  • feebleolinusfeebleolinus Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    August 19th 2021 patch, no fixes on Cloack Ascendancy Campaign Store (Mirage set)
  • hevnlymom#4182 hevnlymom Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    I can't seem to access the outfitter at my stronghold on my bard (Farrah). I can see him, but he won't talk to me.
  • jonchillyjonchilly Member Posts: 33 Arc User
    Are devs even looking at any of these posts? Been a month now with no posts from devs, no updates, nothing - class still the same as it was on launch. I've found more issues but we don't get a response so what's the point.
  • hexngone#5489 hexngone Member Posts: 364 Arc User
    Outfitter in Stronghold is not accessible for a Bard

    I 'think' you removed the dialog diamond because you determined that there were no Dragonflight equipment items to sell a Bard. But the Outfitter is one of the few vendors in the SH that you can sell items to for gold. I often use her rather than running to the font of the building to speak with the Generalist.

    Please enable dialog with the Outfitter in the SH for a Bard.
  • mattachinemattachine Member Posts: 179 Arc User
    Graycloak's Rapier breaks all battle animations if it is used as an appearance item.
    If used as an equipped item the game claims: You must equip a weapon.
  • mattachinemattachine Member Posts: 179 Arc User
    The Delzoun Treasure Box can't be opened as it claims I already have all the items from the box, which I don't.
    Because if I did, I would have a Delzoun Rapier, which I don't.
  • pistaaa1996pistaaa1996 Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    Lunge doesnt proc weapon enchants
  • mamalion1234mamalion1234 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,363 Arc User
    edited September 2021
    when you trigger from encore balad of hero do not proc the songblade inspiration and sforzando.
    when you trigger from encore one of the other 3 songs it proc the songblade inspiration and sforzando.
    when you triggger from encore ballad of the wtich don proc the songblade inspiration and sforzando.

    so where is the bug on the ballads or on the other 3 songs?
    Post edited by mamalion1234 on
  • rikitakirikitaki Member Posts: 778 Arc User
    Got into the Demogorgon with Songblade - and 25 stacks of madness did not disable my daily powers (Inspiration and Lore).
  • mamalion1234mamalion1234 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,363 Arc User
    talwind mambo and blazed flamenco spend most of the times 50 perfomance instead 100 without the class feature musician's flow.
  • zonin#4208 zonin Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    I think Dread Legion Armor for Bards got left out. It maybe it's in the work or forgotten, but I don't see any posts about it.

    The Dread Legion Armor (fashion) from Vendor behind Bruenor in Mantol. The Dread Legion Armor Special when selected by Bards are items made for Rogue class and cannot be worn because Bards are not in the same class.
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