M20 New Sharandar and Ruins of Malabog Adventure Zone Bugs/Feedback

avathar · January 2021

The crossing between Faerûn and the Feywild has been blocked, severing the connection between New Sharandar and Neverwinter. Iliyasha Guidingstar, the Iliyanbruen envoy to Neverwinter, needs your help to restore contact with her home in the Feywild and get to the bottom of this new menace that threatens New Sharandar.

We would love to hear any feedback on the adventure zone, campaign, heroic encounters and the quests!

Specifics on environment collision, encounter difficulty and quest flow would be particularly useful.

Thank you and enjoy!

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Bug: While attempting to complete the 'What was Lost' quest, the ranger never appears and the quest is impossible to complete

Feedback: The heroic encounters should happen more often and drop better loot.

nholmesdev · January 2021

Looking forward to all the sweet sweet bugs!

forumaccount · January 2021

When you have a quest where you have to killl troll shamans or collect their metal teeth the wayfinding doesn't work inside the ruins of malabog and instead sends you back to the sends you back to the portal to new sharandar

adinosii · January 2021

There is too much new gear that is just like older gear, same bonuses, just higher IL......Maybe it's just me, but I would have loved to get something a bit more...interesting.

Example: The Forest Guardian gear pieces are very...disappointing. 6 out of 8 pieces just give a Power bonus, which quite frankly is not so interesting with the current changes.

In fact, I'd say that not a single piece of gear looks interesting to me....I hope there will be something better in parts 2 and 3 later, because this is not....motivating.

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Intro zone...the "special" named mobs (Gate Guardian and..uh the other one) are way, way too easy. They should really be harder to kill than the generic mobs.

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Edir: OK, I did find some gear that's potentially interesting - the new artifacts, but that's all.

liadan1984 · January 2021

Intro zone: second camp fire, just before the Gemstone Guardian.
Wandering group wanders too close to the campfire, and agro's/attacks while you're resting/recovering.

liadan1984 · January 2021

Quest:
Find the Illiyanbruen Ranger
When you are interacting with the ranger, and someone else comes along and interacts and completes their interaction, it also completes yours, and drops you out of the interaction screen.
So, if you are actually wanting to read, rather than just skip through...

Can go back to the Quest Journal to read the information, but the actions of people outside of my party shouldn't interfere. (FWIW, I'm not in a party)

grizord2 · January 2021

Apparently generic mobs (from the zone) have too much HP, while Big mobs have too low, causing then to die way faster than the generic ones, ex: BHE boss and the boss from the intro quest.
Ps: This is also a recurrent problem in any other zone.

the1truehunter · January 2021

adinosii said:
There is too much new gear that is just like older gear, same bonuses, just higher IL......Maybe it's just me, but I would have loved to get something a bit more...interesting.

I had the same opinion at the first sight and then I understand that they should have a reason for putting such gears. The purpose of having those gears is to help new players. We may get some interesting new gear pieces in episode 2 or 3 that may potentially be a bit higher in item level and have similar bonuses with tier 3 bonuses from Avernus hunts. At least that was the path thei followed in the past. I do agree with the fact that some bonuses are still power based and they need their bonuses adjusted to fit in the new combat system.

arazith07 · January 2021

the1truehunter said:

adinosii said:
There is too much new gear that is just like older gear, same bonuses, just higher IL......Maybe it's just me, but I would have loved to get something a bit more...interesting.
I had the same opinion at the first sight and then I understand that they should have a reason for putting such gears. The purpose of having those gears is to help new players. We may get some interesting new gear pieces in episode 2 or 3 that may potentially be a bit higher in item level and have similar bonuses with tier 3 bonuses from Avernus hunts. At least that was the path thei followed in the past. I do agree with the fact that some bonuses are still power based and they need their bonuses adjusted to fit in the new combat system.

This is dungeon gear though...so far there really isn't a reason for anyone to run the new dungeon outside of story. I would have liked to see something other than power.

xenocide · January 2021

Not sure if this is a bug but the new gear is showing 2 different combine ratings on the stats>

Also, I couldnt find keys for malabogs castle or master of the hunt in the campaign store on on the campaign page

towahn · January 2021

I have to say at this point I am not surprised that there is a list of known issues a mile long with the new combat rework and we get a new mod instead of a huge much needed bug fix. *long sigh*

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evemj · January 2021

New Sharandar, 2711,1223 = some sort of invisible collision

elderislt · January 2021

Wat if I finish sharandar in live on 70% I spent my time becose I wana finish sharandar champagne, and now it's just bumm disapier, so all my time which I spend on this compagne daznt mater?

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hustin1 · January 2021

Disregard. The game had put it into my belt slot automatically. Dunno why. False alarm.

hustin1 · January 2021

Lots of questions...

1. What about the original campaign? Is it gone for good? The dialogue when you enter the NEW New Sharandar makes no sense if new players never see the original campaign.

2. What about the rewards from the original campaign? Some of those only come from places like the Witch Fen. If those are unattainable now, that is a VERY big deal.

3. Uh...are you aware that powries on live are **female**? Did they all put on belts of gender changing? BIG plot hole here. Major.

And some comments..

1. The aggro radius seems unusually large, sort of like when Chult first launched. It's getting really annoying.

2. The Iliyanbruen prisoners don't look at all like Iliyanbruen. One looks like she's from Chult!

3. Something about the new map appears to be off. It doesn't look "Feywild-ey" enough. It looks too much like the Prime Material Plane. The Feywild is a separate plane, a.k.a. the Plane of Faerie. I'm not talking about the furnishings so much as the environment. The very air should seem different. In the background, there seem to be way too many rocks and not enough green. It's a shame the Foundry isn't up anymore because I would direct you to Children of the Fey (see my sig) where I tried to take a stab at what a different part of the plane might look like.

I did, however, save a capture of it to my MediaFire account before it went dark:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/q6kk65tb9mcigyl/Children_of_the_Fey.mp4/file

dazdranagon88 · January 2021

Will the passage of the previous campaign be taken into account, and will the gifts be preserved?

sylantax3 · January 2021

Which do we use? Owlbear doesn't work, and Mimic seems to work, but then when I get into the preview game, it crashes before I can actually start the game.

kevin · January 2021

sylantax3 put in a ticket and try arc repair

liadan1984 · January 2021

hustin1 said:
Lots of questions...

1. What about the original campaign? Is it gone for good? The dialogue when you enter the NEW New Sharandar makes no sense if new players never see the original campaign.

2. What about the rewards from the original campaign? Some of those only come from places like the Witch Fen. If those are unattainable now, that is a VERY big deal.

3. Uh...are you aware that powries on live are **female**? Did they all put on belts of gender changing? BIG plot hole here. Major.

And some comments..

1. The aggro radius seems unusually large, sort of like when Chult first launched. It's getting really annoying.

2. The Iliyanbruen prisoners don't look at all like Iliyanbruen. One looks like she's from Chult!

3. Something about the new map appears to be off. It doesn't look "Feywild-ey" enough. It looks too much like the Prime Material Plane. The Feywild is a separate plane, a.k.a. the Plane of Faerie. I'm not talking about the furnishings so much as the environment. The very air should seem different. In the background, there seem to be way too many rocks and not enough green. It's a shame the Foundry isn't up anymore because I would direct you to Children of the Fey (see my sig) where I tried to take a stab at what a different part of the plane might look like.

I did, however, save a capture of it to my MediaFire account before it went dark:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/q6kk65tb9mcigyl/Children_of_the_Fey.mp4/file

Another comment regarding the original campaign:

The old Sharandar currency (Fey Trinkets) are still required for guild building upgrades.

But, as we're unable to access the old Sharandar area and quests, getting this currency is going to be near impossible.

jman3l · January 2021

@avathar#2753 because the old sharandar campaign is gone, what happens to those boons from the old campaign? Please tell me we will keep them, and also how will newer players get those older boons? Will Strongholds be updated to take the new currency for stronghold coffers? These are two glaring issues I see. Other than that, the area and campaign looks beautiful.

adinosii · January 2021

The Sinister Relic is a problem. The collection page says it is available in the tradebar store. It isn't.

On that subject....how are people supposed to be able to obtain the "old Sharandar" items that are in the coollection, if they are not available from vendors and the area is not accessible? Case in point: Witch fen, for the Redcap items?

You should NEVER list anything in a collection that is totally unavaliable...

dungeonhunter · January 2021

Too bad gear bonuses are the same as before. At least a gear set bonuses can be like old drowcraft gear bonuses or dragonflight gear bonuses or something like this, which I think would be extremely interesting. It's boring to see the same set bonuses over and over again.

kronus · January 2021

Unless you are planning to update the stronghold requirements before you release (I highly doubt), I suggest you leave the old campaign. I went there last night, and I have to be honest, I was sorely disappointed. Yeah the graphics looked a butt-load better, but the area didn't look like anything that was outside of the Prime Material Plane. It had too much ground, not enough woodland, and to be completely honest, using the same model for the campaign flow as the Citadel event just ruined it for me. After grinding that for the past 3+ months, I am burned out. I was able to blow through the first weekly milestone in well under 2hrs. and nothing seemed original. It was more like take part of this and add it to part of that. It's just more grind for little benefit and I do include exploring/adventuring as a benefit. Well enough about my opinion.

1. It doesn't look like remotely like any rendering or painting I've ever seen of the Fey wild. Nor does it match any description I've ever read. Needs more trees to give an appearance of a forest or woodland. (yes I know this is only the first area)
2. Please adjust Stronghold Campaign before doing away with original area or better yet leave it and have this as a continuation so others can follow the plotline.
3. As stated above by others, adjust mobs VS. solo monster encounters so it feels like it should.
4. I was able to ride through area where I should've triggered an attack but didn't. Likewise I was attacked in a couple areas such as campfire where I should've been safe.
5. It did seem really stable so kudos for that, I didn't see any of the other bugs that were mentioned above, so I might have just been lucky.
6. Try to find something that will make it worth even doing this campaign other then SH coffer contributions if that will be the case. Storyline just isn't there. HE's can be done in other areas that are far more interesting and the gear just isn't worth grinding the currency as it's currently all the same, just with slightly higher values. As it stands, right now from first preview, this will be like AI for me. I will blow through it once and not even worry about it on any of my other toons unless I'm bored to tears.

arazith07 · January 2021

I took both my main (50k cleric) and an alt that I raised up to 40k (warlock) through the intro quest. It was a breeze on both characters, note that I have no played Warlock outside of leveling her up to 80 in M16, so my experience with the class is next to none. Not only this, but a few is us were talking with Rainer on the PE Discord and he was able to do the quest on all classes at 30k without too much difficulty (though a bit slow as a Paladin).
I think that the mobs need to be increased in difficulty, especially the HP of the two "bosses". If the recommended item level is 40k, a 40k character should be having some difficulty and not just cut through them like butter. At least enough to where someone who has a lot less than 40k can't also complete the content.

As far as the Ruins of Malabog zone goes, I would like to see the zone turn more sinister and more the colors seen in the old zone, the further out from New Sharandar you get (but leave New Sharandar as is)

thany · January 2021

arazith07 said:
I took both my main (50k cleric) and an alt that I raised up to 40k (warlock) through the intro quest. It was a breeze on both characters, note that I have no played Warlock outside of leveling her up to 80 in M16, so my experience with the class is next to none. Not only this, but a few is us were talking with Rainer on the PE Discord and he was able to do the quest on all classes at 30k without too much difficulty (though a bit slow as a Paladin).
I think that the mobs need to be increased in difficulty, especially the HP of the two "bosses". If the recommended item level is 40k, a 40k character should be having some difficulty and not just cut through them like butter. At least enough to where someone who has a lot less than 40k can't also complete the content.

As far as the Ruins of Malabog zone goes, I would like to see the zone turn more sinister and more the colors seen in the old zone, the further out from New Sharandar you get (but leave New Sharandar as is)

OMG dude. 50K cleric and 40K warlock is far beyond 30K on live... And you want to increase difficulty ? Don't get me wrong. Your's advices were bad before, and now, well it's even worse.

arazith07 · January 2021

thany#4351 said:

arazith07 said:
I took both my main (50k cleric) and an alt that I raised up to 40k (warlock) through the intro quest. It was a breeze on both characters, note that I have no played Warlock outside of leveling her up to 80 in M16, so my experience with the class is next to none. Not only this, but a few is us were talking with Rainer on the PE Discord and he was able to do the quest on all classes at 30k without too much difficulty (though a bit slow as a Paladin).
I think that the mobs need to be increased in difficulty, especially the HP of the two "bosses". If the recommended item level is 40k, a 40k character should be having some difficulty and not just cut through them like butter. At least enough to where someone who has a lot less than 40k can't also complete the content.

As far as the Ruins of Malabog zone goes, I would like to see the zone turn more sinister and more the colors seen in the old zone, the further out from New Sharandar you get (but leave New Sharandar as is)
OMG dude. 50K cleric and 40K warlock is far beyond 30K on live... And you want to increase difficulty ? Don't get me wrong. Your's advices were bad before, and now, well it's even worse.

Everyone's item level increases with this new mod. 30k on live is more like 45k on preview. 30k on Preview is like 20-24k on live. Everyone who has done all the other content should be well beyond 30k on preview.

Have you actually gone on preview to test out the new mod? They themselves are the ones recommending 40k, and yet 30k can do just fine. They need to either raise the difficulty to actually match the recommended or lower the recommended. Considering this is brand new and there is no content for 40k+, I would rather they increase the difficulty, as this should be harder than Avernus.

If you are having trouble on preview, be sure to check your character sheet to make sure you don't have the bug that shows your damage as 0. (there is a work around where you respec).

gweddeoran · January 2021

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sylantax3 · January 2021

kevin#3443 said:
sylantax3 put in a ticket and try arc repair

Thanks.

hexngone · January 2021

The Current Sharandar campaign is designed for a level 64 character (about 6000 IL) and is as useful as Elemental Evil or Maze Engine in providing the XP needed to advance a character to level 80 (Ignoring invoking and azure enchants and SH quests all of which skew the normal XP allocation). If the existing, delightful and very functional New Sharandar is 'replaced' by the new mod 20 adventure zone, the 'level/IL' requirements should remain the same for the initial quests. This should *not* be considered the 'next campaign after Avernus' **if it is replacing the current Sharandar Campaign**.

Stronghold Fey Trinkets Voucher creation must be maintained
Dark Keys and Malabog Castle keys should still be obtainable

I agree with comments regarding context - you must have the old Sharandar campaign in place to reference 'what once was' in the new campaign/story - or it is just confusing and inconsistent.

If the environment/artwork/models are not true to Feywind lore expectations, do not release the module, period. Comments from users for months have indicated that the grind of the past two adventure zones was unbearable - do not repeat that tactic in the new content.