I really don't even know where to start with this why in the heck is there a car coming into Neverwinter please explain where in Dungeons & Dragons is there a freaking car that is insulting to Dungeons & Dragons that's worse then when you guys brought dinosaurs into the game why would you even do that I mean I understand a lot of the Young Generation really ain't the brightest crayons in the Box put on something that is supposed to be based off of the Dark Ages with magic where in the heck were cars involved that is stupid and insulting The Dungeons & Dragons
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check this dnd book, there is a section about "infernal war machines" (basicly stuff similar to the cars we have in NW)
There was also stuff like (the very official TSR module) "Expedition to The Barrier Peaks" (late 70s early 80s) where wizards and elves were running round Greyhawk shooting laser rifles at each other after investigating a crashed UFO. The party face command code computer access issues, alien viruses, a dangerously cute bunny rabbit, and a "Karate Master" teaching robot.
So, from a "purist" point of view having Mad Max style cars in Hell is not exactly pushing the envelope.
As long as these "Infernal Machines" are kept to the zone in which they belong, and the game doesn't turn into
"Grand Theft Arcana" then it's nothing more than part of the long tradition of D&D poaching ideas from other settings.
D&D was never as fully tongue in cheek as Flying Buffalo were with their Tunnels and Trolls riffs, but D&D has always had some degree of cheek poking going on.
And as far as credentials go, I've been playing the table top variant since the 1970s, and have little time for any rules system post 2nd Edition, so I am firmly in the grumpy old "purist" mould. But I understand that the purity of the game comes mainly from it's overall tone and not from some individual sense of "what I like and don't like" about it.
For every player that gets excited over stuff like dinosaurs, demons, and combustion engines, two players could care less, and three more think it's the stupidest thing they've ever heard.
Dnders could have done something clever with the concept of terrible lizards... They did not.
- could have done something new and strange with the idea of infernal beings... They did not.
- could find some interesting and novel way to mechanize and power mounts... Well, I suppose we could cross our fingers in the hopes history will learn a new trick.
Me, I just hope they incorporate an exhaust wrap or go electric so I don't have to listen to a bunch of noise. Every summer I get dirtbikers and fourwheelers at my end of the street that are absolutely obnoxious. It would really suck to have to deal with that in game and irl.
would be more creative than a car.
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would be more creative than a car
Heck, give me a way to move at 140%+ speed without having to hit a mount key at all, and I'd be thrilled.
make it an el camino with a classic camper.
At least be bold.
I'm super curious as to how that would work, unless I'm overthinking it and it's simply "a wizard opened some portal somewhere" explanation.
But way back in annals of time there was a book called Deities and Demigods.
It took many religions and faiths from various fantasy settings and established the Heroes and Demigods with typical D&D stats. We had Cthulhu, Nehwon (Grey Mouser/Fafhrd), and the Elric stuff. There were pseudo historical heroic pantheons such as the Arthurian heroes, as well as real Earth religions. Did you know that Tiamat originated in the mythology of Bayblon/Mesopotamia?
In fact most of the Pantheons covered are of real Earth religions. And not all are like the archaic Norse, Celtic, Ancient Greek or Eqyptian mythologies, but are still widely practised today. I imagine if someone tried to "catalogue" the Gods of the Hindu faith (such as "Vishnu") today for inclusion in a "fantasy" role playing game there would be public outrage.
But whatever you think of whether old D&D stuff has any relevance, I'm not sure how Infernal Machines racing round the dust planes of the first layer of Hell connects to the "Real World" anyway?
For what it's worth, my youngest has had his Rogue in NW for about 7 months and is about L30, he only started playing to see what it was like... he spends more time in Forza/NFS games at which he is very good. I gave up trying to race against him about 2 years ago and he's just got better.
I showed him some of the clips from Mod 19, and now he is in full "fast track" mode to get to L80 before the mod drops on XBox just so he can drive one of those cars. Because despite it being unlikely to replicate the style and RW physics of his racing games, the idea of being able to drive round like Mad Max, score kills like Frankenstein in Death Race 2000 then jump out and start stabbing things is very much of interest to him.
For a fantasy world game, the notion that "I haven't seen it before, (even though it is right there in black and white in the source material) so it's not right." is a load of bollocks in my opinion.
I just don't like the idea but I'm sure there are loads of people who don't like the stuff I like best in NW as well. NW is a big playground and even if there are some areas that bore or don't interest me, I'd never say that they shouldn't exist. I'm just a little down that we have to use the car (from what I understand) tho I may be wrong on that or it may change.
There's always going to be stuff that doesn't fit with your ideal image of the game, and for the most part those things form only a small part of the experience.
People playing "air guitar" makes me roll my eyes, but they're having fun and I don't have to do it. (But it does HAMSTER me off that I default into that pose when entering the Hell Pit.)
Just before the Acquisitions Inc mod dropped there seemed to be a fairly even balance between people who loved that... whatever it's meant to be... and there were those who couldn't stand it.
Funnily enough, since it landed there don't seem to be many people I know who look forward to starting a new character so they can hear those same 6 jokes every day for two months...
As to being forced to use it, I think there are a couple of AI race quests, (I have no idea if they are mainline or side quests) then it's up to you whether you use it or not. To me that's no more invasive than the various introductory Hunt quests, or...... HAMSTER Fishing.
A car is nothing compared with Acquisitions Inc.
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