A rollback, whether it is for 5 minutes or a week would take the same amount of time and let's be honest, having to perform a system-wide rollback 5 minutes after a mod launch would be hugely damaging to Cryptic's reputation.
Because not doing anything over a gamebreaking bug that was reported on preview giving access to legendary mount to everyone when a rollback would have impacted a relatively small amount of people since they shutdown the server quickly would not damage their reputation? Also the reputation of letting major problems hit the live server eve when reported? They already have it
I see your point but the issue of a "few" players getting a legendary mount is hardly headline news, however "International MMO giant's much vaunted release ends in shambles after 5 minutes" just might be.
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lol so is it still on Preview and they let it go to live server. I can't even log in to get my daily key,but people are allowed to use daily key on bugged box
oh well, no stonks...gratz to all who got sth good i have no probs with that, just bring the game online coz i will waste a small part of a day i can play and i m not gonna make to use my key, and that rly sux...
How the f**k do you not fix this before going live? It was posted on the forums weeks ago already. No role back? I'll be waiting for my Leg Box in my mail thank you very much. This is absolute bulls**t. Same old Arc/Perfect World...
Really? No roll back is exactly why it's NOT same ole Cryptic. This is new. I didn't get one, I do NOT wanna see a rollback. I want to see progression moving forward. They're licking their wounds for messing up, leaving the stuff in game, and moving on.
This is what I see it as, too. At least as an attempt to go at this differently now. However, a rollback wouldn't be the same as banning people for Huntgate. If they can do it practically, they are still evaluating it right now. Just leave it to them, they get paid for it, and it will be drama anyway.
Your right that it's not the same as huntgate, and it will be drama either way XD I'm glad I'm not the only one that see's this as a step forward, not backwards!
No rollback when it's the easiest time to rollback, aka right 5 min after a maintenance? Why wouldn't you rollback and avoid dozens and dozens of legendary mounts obtained via a glitched lockbox to spread and destroy a bit more the economy? Don't you think PC's economy isn't bad enough as it is now? Seems not
This was the previous lockbox that has been out since Mod 17, not the new one. A rollback would have taken a HUGE amount of these mounts away from people. This actually seems consistent with what I have personally observed from the game-wide announcements of these boxes. If they rolled it back and took away the mounts that people had already gotten from these lockboxes then a large amount of people would have simply quit. So overall, good reaction to this.
Would someone really be upset to lose a mount that they only got because of a bug? That person must be pretty pathetic
Yes! Goes without saying. but depends on when bug was introduced. If this morning, then No. If since Stardock Lockbox inception, then Absolutely!!!! How do you differentiate between legit and bug?
I would quit on the spot!
"Oh hello, you know that first Legendary Mount that you got a Month ago, and the first one you ever gotten after several years of VIP, We are taking it back. Sorry Cryptic"
I am more in favor of removing the inappropriately gotten goods than letting those who new about the bug to keep their gains. The number of people who opened lock boxes should be given a refund of their keys and another attempt when the lockboxes are fixed. That would be the best route to take here. If someone is upset their new legendary mount wasn't allowed to be saved they shouldn't be mad when everyone here can see that it was only accomplished due to a bug.
Guild Leader: Under the Influence Yule (Barb): 72k : Siren (TR): 78k : Torun (DC): 73k : Siren OP (OP): 76k : Siren SW (SW): 78k : Modern (F): 80k : Cherry1 (CW) : 68k Siren HR (HR): 78k
Noted, apparently I joined beta just after caturday because I remember everyone talking about it ... my comment in this thread was to inject some lightheartedness into the inevitable frustration of waiting for the servers to go live (the green light being misleading)
why no rollback? It was 100% and the box was opened countless times. It is now only to reassure the others. Unfortunately, the price for legendary mounts is broken.
This is worse than Caturday lol. Never imagined I would be missing those times. Thank you for not taking action for your fair players. Thank you for defending exploiters. Thank you for ruining the game for like, idk, 4524th time ?
What's wrong with this dev team??? Seriously??? Now I have to talk people out of quitting the game... AGAIN!!! Thanks devs for nothing! I'm so angry right now....
They should roll back after considering the responses on this forum and compensate the playerbase with a small reward for the hassle.
At this point, those players that got the leg mounts and don't have it anymore unlike their other fellow players, will be prejudiced the most if there is no roll back. My guild leader is one of them. Furthermore, someone previously made a good point, that this bug was on preview and you couldn't possibly know that these leg mounts were not opened by players who knew of this bug from preview and tried to exploit the bug on live. Moreover, when people saw the plethora of leg mounts being opened, they also would have tried to exploit the bug. In essence, some of the leg mounts might have been obtained by an intentional use of a bug aka an exploit. I wouldn't ever want to see such players having a free leg mount.
I think overall, a quick roll back would be more fair on the community because no one is getting a ban, so I don't see why anyone will have any issue with a roll back, if something that didn't belong to them was taken away? They will get their keys back. In fact, it will be more dignifying for them to ask to take their mounts back but i am seeing the opposite.
Morality aside, perhaps this is a good time to re-evaluate the lockbox mechanism of monetization? I don't even want to imagine the globalization/regionalization nightmare legislation against lockboxes and similar monetization schemes would cause. https://www.prindlepost.org/2019/07/are-loot-boxes-quite-ethical/ Maybe it's time to just start selling the contents of the lockboxes directly in the Zen store instead.
Evidently, they've been illegal in Belgium and the Netherlands for a while now and EA is under criminal investigation for violations in Belgium for FIFA 2019.
why are you rewarding players exploiting this glitch that you were warned about well in advance?
Theoretically, one could say to the opposite "why are you punishing players exploiting a glitch you were well aware of?" like, happening a few times ago with quite the same uproar.
why are you rewarding players exploiting this glitch that you were warned about well in advance?
Theoretically, one could say to the opposite "why are you punishing players exploiting a glitch you were well aware of?" like, happening a few times ago with quite the same uproar.
Heaps of players were banned not long ago for much less of an exploit. Pick a lane, Cryptic.
If someone uses multiple keys and won multiple leg packs then yes they most def should have some sort of either give away or take back for those. But for those that used their ONE key and got a leg and yes I am one of them that is different. But, once I saw the increase I immediately reported it and was told they were on it and the shard came down. Yes this has happened before as someone stated but!, they tried to repo it and it did not so it was a flux and nothing that could be done. Has not happened again it seems.
So this happening today just was HAMSTER luck, but they are not going to "punish" those that did not "exploit" with multiple keys. People threatening to quit the game over this I mean seriously, over a leg pack if you are willing to quit over this then..I have no words I am sorry.
They have to look into this think about it and figure out what to do. But to basically threaten to leave is not right. Just my two cents
why are you rewarding players exploiting this glitch that you were warned about well in advance?
Theoretically, one could say to the opposite "why are you punishing players exploiting a glitch you were well aware of?" like, happening a few times ago with quite the same uproar.
Heaps of players were banned not long ago for much less of an exploit. Pick a lane, Cryptic.
Yes! Jumping around between ways to solve issue like that doesn't help, but I guess that should change. They are picking it now, a bit of suffering because they didn't clearly indicate how they are gonna solve this issues from now on.
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I can't even log in to get my daily key,but people are allowed to use daily key on bugged box
If since Stardock Lockbox inception, then Absolutely!!!! How do you differentiate between legit and bug?
I would quit on the spot!
"Oh hello, you know that first Legendary Mount that you got a Month ago, and the
first one you ever gotten after several years of VIP, We are taking it back. Sorry Cryptic"
Yule (Barb): 72k : Siren (TR): 78k : Torun (DC): 73k : Siren OP (OP): 76k : Siren SW (SW): 78k : Modern (F): 80k : Cherry1 (CW) : 68k Siren HR (HR): 78k
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Nomnomnommm - Wizard - Alt - Droppin Crits on Fools - Xbone
I Am The Wall - Paladin - Alt - Droppin Crits on Fools - Xbone
Xeros - Rogue - Alt - 9 3/4 Unbuffed - Xbone
RIP bad name - Warlock - Alt - 9 3/4 Unbuffed - Xbone
Bardholomew - Bard - Alt - 9 3/4 Unbuffed - Xbone
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At this point, those players that got the leg mounts and don't have it anymore unlike their other fellow players, will be prejudiced the most if there is no roll back. My guild leader is one of them. Furthermore, someone previously made a good point, that this bug was on preview and you couldn't possibly know that these leg mounts were not opened by players who knew of this bug from preview and tried to exploit the bug on live. Moreover, when people saw the plethora of leg mounts being opened, they also would have tried to exploit the bug. In essence, some of the leg mounts might have been obtained by an intentional use of a bug aka an exploit. I wouldn't ever want to see such players having a free leg mount.
I think overall, a quick roll back would be more fair on the community because no one is getting a ban, so I don't see why anyone will have any issue with a roll back, if something that didn't belong to them was taken away? They will get their keys back. In fact, it will be more dignifying for them to ask to take their mounts back but i am seeing the opposite.
Evidently, they've been illegal in Belgium and the Netherlands for a while now and EA is under criminal investigation for violations in Belgium for FIFA 2019.
Edit: I can actually patch now!
Yes this has happened before as someone stated but!, they tried to repo it and it did not so it was a flux and nothing that could be done. Has not happened again it seems.
So this happening today just was HAMSTER luck, but they are not going to "punish" those that did not "exploit" with multiple keys. People threatening to quit the game over this I mean seriously, over a leg pack if you are willing to quit over this then..I have no words I am sorry.
They have to look into this think about it and figure out what to do. But to basically threaten to leave is not right. Just my two cents
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