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  • wbaker256#3172 wbaker256 Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    The only real complaint I have about Gith so far is the lack of a "No Deity" option at character creation. Githyanki and Githzerai are generally non-religious. For immersion's sake, it'd be nice to actually have such an option for them, as well as any other character that doesn't worship a deity.

    Only other thing I can really say is that it's a shame there's no Monk class for folks who wanna go with a more "zerai" Gith.
    Player of CO, STO and NWO
  • auron#6793 auron Member Posts: 386 Arc User
    For some reason as of latest patch we are unable to create new gith toons.
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  • garrolgarrol Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    About choosing a charecteristics correction for githzerai I think better will be
    +2 Wis and
    +2 Dex or +2 Cha

    First of all, Githzerai are a psionic race. I hope that in the future there will be classes for monks and psions. These two classes is prevelegue for that race and char corr should be appropriate.

    And race Githzerai not Githyanki remember that. That is why correction +2 Str not should be.
  • garrolgarrol Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    mgoblin2 said:

    The only real complaint I have about Gith so far is the lack of a "No Deity" option at character creation. Githyanki and Githzerai are generally non-religious. For immersion's sake, it'd be nice to actually have such an option for them, as well as any other character that doesn't worship a deity.

    Only other thing I can really say is that it's a shame there's no Monk class for folks who wanna go with a more "zerai" Gith.

    Absolutly agree! Moreover, it is high time for other deities to be added to the list of deities to be worshipped, like Shar for Drow or Human (Netheril), Rillifane for elves, Asmodeus for warlocks, and No-one for any! =)
  • arazith07arazith07 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,719 Arc User
    Drow should be Lolth or even Ellistraee if they want to keep with the more good aligned deities.
  • garrolgarrol Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    arazith07 said:

    Drow should be Lolth or even Ellistraee if they want to keep with the more good aligned deities.

    I agree, but I'm not sure the developers will go to add an "evil" deity to worship.
  • wbaker256#3172 wbaker256 Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited August 2019
    garrol said:

    About choosing a charecteristics correction for githzerai I think better will be
    +2 Wis and
    +2 Dex or +2 Cha

    First of all, Githzerai are a psionic race. I hope that in the future there will be classes for monks and psions. These two classes is prevelegue for that race and char corr should be appropriate.

    And race Githzerai not Githyanki remember that. That is why correction +2 Str not should be.

    It's both races. That's why the race is called "Gith". There are renegade Githyanki (some of which belong to the Sha'sal Khou, a group of both types of Gith who hope to unite the race as a whole) who aren't entirely evil. And thank goodness for that: I find the Githzerai to be boring, personally :tongue:

    That said, it's a damned shame there isn't an Eldritch Knight or Monk class so we can Gish or Zerth appropriately.
    Player of CO, STO and NWO
  • garrolgarrol Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    So if someone want to see canonical abiblity modification of Gith: =)

    Gityanki:
    2e : +1 Dexterity, +1 Intelligence, -1 Wisdom, -1 Charismas ( A Guide to the Astral Plane, page 66-67 )
    3.5 : +2 Dexterity, +2 Constitution, -2 Wisdom ( Complete Psionic variant, p. 146 )
    4e : +2 Constitution and +2 Intelligence ( MM )
    5e : +1 Intelligence and +2 Strength

    Gitzerai:
    2e : I didn't find it right away. (((
    3.5 : +2 Dexterity, +2 Wisdom, -2 Intelligence
    4e : +2 Wisdom, and either +2 Dexterity or +2 Intelligence ( PH-3 )
    5e : +1 Intelligence and +2 Wisdom

    It should be explained that a wisdom modifier has always been made to highlight Githzerai? =) With Githyanki more difficult - race from redaction to redaction very significant changes. =(

    And now we should ask ourselves the question: what edition are the developers going to follow? Originally it was 4e...
  • rickcase276rickcase276 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,404 Arc User
    Well as your choice is either +2 dex and +2 strength or +2 dex and +2 intelligence it appears to be more or less none of the above. But it could be 4e, as wisdom does not give bonuses to damage, so you could say intelligence replaced it.
  • garrolgarrol Member Posts: 19 Arc User

    Well as your choice is either +2 dex and +2 strength or +2 dex and +2 intelligence it appears to be more or less none of the above. But it could be 4e, as wisdom does not give bonuses to damage, so you could say intelligence replaced it.

    I can't agree with that point of view!

    First of all, you assume that you need as much damage as possible from the player, and you think that the only modifiers that should be in the game are DPS modifiers. You are proceeding from the vicious system that has developed in the game. Holy Triad – Tank + DD + Healer.

    You don't want to see that even 4e rules require Controller and Leader archetypes to be present. And for these classes, other character abilities are very important, not just Intelligence and Strength.

    Second of all, what kind of wording do we stick to? - The fourth one? - Then be nice to stick to the general rules, not make up some sort of nonsense.

    I don't mind if the players for Gith are given three ways to lay out the abilities:
    • +2 Wisdom, +2 Dexterity
    • +2 Wisdom, +2 Intelligence
    • +2 Constitution, +2 Intelligence
    It's a more adequate system - whatever race it is, it is. Why bother to change your mind?
  • garrolgarrol Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited August 2019
    And don't forget that Gith is a psionic race! Correspondingly, their main modifiers should be directed in the appropriate direction. Do you see any psionic classes ( like Psion / Monk / Ardent / Battlemind ) in the game?

    Key Abilities:
    Ardent - Constitution, Wisdom, Charisma
    Battlemind - Constitution, Wisdom, Charisma
    Monk - Dexterity, Strength, Wisdom
    Psion - Intelligence, Charisma, Wisdom


    We have to work on that! To include new classes in the game and to update the specialty Controller.
  • dontez1dontez1 Member Posts: 114 Arc User
    Ok so I was about to create my first Gith to run with Julia for the stream and noticed they have 3% stamina regen and 5k combat advantage! I Thank you for increasing those!
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