Announcing Neverwinter: Undermountain

nitocris83 · February 2019

Greetings Adventurers!

Today we announced our upcoming expansion - you are going to Undermountain! This is a big one and we've been working on it for a long time. There will be a lot of changes and we will be releasing Developer Blogs starting now until launch date (not yet announced). There will be a preview server available soon* (in addition to the early access program we've had going for a few weeks) so you can try out and get accustomed to the changes before the content goes live!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PP7Kx79IwQE

*Please note that the date of March 1 is what we are aiming for but is subject to change.

pitmonster · February 2019

The teaser trailer looks good. Liking lifting the level cap to 80 as long as they are going to do something with powers and feats which was hinted at with the classes rework. Five new adventure zones!

And more....

I told my daughter, who stopped playing because she hated the grind fest after LV 70, that I would rise her toon up so we could do Mod 16 together because it looked like a big update and I don't think it will disappoint. Hopefully we will now be rewarded for waiting through the half mod, buggy, disaster that was 15.

greywynd · February 2019

Well, with the obvious work towards M16 happening, that might explain the lack of attention to some of the bugs.

pitmonster · February 2019

Holy freak'n s^%$ batman, I just started reading through the dev blog posts!

The removal of the Lifesteal and Recovery ratings are the two most significant. Lifesteal was problematic in that it invalidated most sources of healing and created a situation where a player’s health bar was typically in one of two states: full, or dead. For this reason Lifesteal was removed as a rating and there are only a couple of specific sources of lifesteal in the game going forward.

This one alone is a MASSIVE change! I mean this will completely null countless builds from various classes. Take the OP, providing extra recover buffs was a good reason to have one in the party. There there is classes like the GWF doing solo content and not having lifesteal while getting mobbed in places like Chult!

I mean wow! Its not that I disagree with the changes but the past few mods, I have little faith in the devs for getting even minor changes right in the game and these are complete overhauls!

kinpyre · February 2019

Mod 16 = NERFmountain

sandukutupu · February 2019

I always hope for the best and prepare for the worst. Mod 6 was the last time we had a "major upgrade" and it broke everything. We got raised from level 60 to level 70 and had the endless grind that was Elemental Evil. Sharandar had us getting reduced in level just to get pummeled by level 70 redcaps. Dungeons were taken down for over a year to "repair them" just to come back worse than before.

I hope the developers have learned from the past and are not about to repeat it. I won't start wearing a sandwich sign "Repent the End is Nigh!" just yet. But many players are upset and confused already in game chat. Play preview if you can, otherwise keep an eye on the Preview bugs and feedback. People on preview need to post bugs and issues so they can get fixed, but the developers need to also pay attention to our feedback about the game as well.

plasticbat · February 2019

Great! I guess I can stop my plan to upgrade my enchantments until further notice. I think many will be gone. And, '6' is an evil number.

c3rb3r3 · February 2019

plasticbat said:
Great! I guess I can stop my plan to upgrade my enchantments until further notice. I think many will be gone. And, '6' is an evil number.

I hope we get weap/armor enchants overhaul as well as rank 15

sandukutupu · February 2019

plasticbat said:
Great! I guess I can stop my plan to upgrade my enchantments until further notice. I think many will be gone. And, '6' is an evil number.

I am seriously thinking the same, no point going forward after boons, enchantments, and companions. Erinyes of Belial is +10% Critical Severity, I was planning to get a few from the AH but no way! All I plan to do is collect my AD and probably sell some items. Also updating the wiki after module 16 just became a nightmare.

theycallmetomu · February 2019

c3rb3r3 said:

plasticbat said:
Great! I guess I can stop my plan to upgrade my enchantments until further notice. I think many will be gone. And, '6' is an evil number.
I hope we get weap/armor enchants overhaul as well as rank 15

Rank 15? Another way for alts to be completely unplayable!

-said by a guy who's never bothered gearing alts.

I'm more concerned about changing GWF to Barbarian. I mean, the pants/shirts for GWF is chain based. Barbarians don't wear chainmail!

At least now people will stop erroneously saying "What are you talking about 4E had a CRPG version, Neverwinter is based off of 4th edition" without knowing what they're talking about.

(Yes, I have the weirdest concerns)

divectore · February 2019

March 1? 10 days before and no preview test server? based on my experience, @everyone could expect 1 may.

lardeson · February 2019

"opposing rolls""crit chance cap at 50%""no more recovery" ok lets wait till this gets to preview and see the dps state. im cool with the overall changes but hope this doesn't end up making us spend 2 hours in cloak tower. i mean like myself there are a few of us that dont have 24 hours to spend playing neverwinter.

sgtpostal · February 2019

my biggest q is wht happens to the enchants that give the stats they are removing (like dilvery) wht happens to them.... an crit gettin capd at 50%? seriousllu

shooter · February 2019

I understand this change is happening, fine. I would like to get a conversion table for all the changes that will happen. Example: you are getting ride of recovery, what will the recovery enchants be changed too? What will lifesteal and recovery be changed to on all equipment, artys, weaps, etc.

ghoulz66 · February 2019

What about all the other campaign zones and gears. They're now completely useless for level 80 or will they be updated?

arazith07 · February 2019

divectore said:
March 1? 10 days before and no preview test server? based on my experience, @everyone could expect 1 may.

March 1st (tentatively) for Preview server to open for everyone, no release date for live yet

lardeson · February 2019

shooter#5315 said:
I understand this change is happening, fine. I would like to get a conversion table for all the changes that will happen. Example: you are getting ride of recovery, what will the recovery enchants be changed too? What will lifesteal and recovery be changed to on all equipment, artys, weaps, etc.

my hope is that they do replace those stats with useful ones, like recovery for ap gain and recharge speed wouldn't be bad and if they are completely making them obsolette then add a vendor that will allow you to trade them for other stuff. but im sure they aint as crazy as to release a tenser that has 4k recovery and not take it into consideration, also all these are only notes. nothing is definite.

dread4moor · February 2019

If you search the archives you'd see that a lifesteal nerf had been proposed multiple times since Mod 6...

Mostly by support mains ofc. DPS mains rage at the suggestion.

The arguments for reducing lifesteal are good. Healing doesn't matter. Your bar is either full or empty, rarely anything inbetween.
Most deaths are 1-hits.

Never expected them to straight-up GANK lifesteal.
That is a suprise.

Insufficient information to tell if that is good or bad.

[Calls Auction House StockBroker]

"Dark enchants: Sell! Sell! Sell!"

mentinmindmaker · February 2019

lardeson said:

Lardeson CW not Mage. Where's my fireball and my thunderbolt?

You might be getting those now

majorcharvenak · February 2019

And here I was about to take a break from NW for a while and they go and announce my favorite D&D Mod.

Going to have to wait and see what comes out in the notes. I hope to the gods that the level increase isn't like the one back in Mod 6, (especially wrt new gear and equipment) otherwise I got a very bad feeling about this expansion.

The new zones and content seems like a winner, but I'm left wondering if it will be too much. SKT had three new zones to start with a fourth added mid point. While fun at first, it descended into a painful grind. I hope they add in some new features to keep them relevant and exciting between mod 16 and 17.

sgtpostal · February 2019

(mimicks abomb falling from sky)

kitkathd · February 2019

majorcharvenak said:
And here I was about to take a break from NW for a while and they go and announce my favorite D&D Mod. Going to have to wait and see what comes out in the notes. I hope to the gods that the level increase isn't like the one back in Mod 6, (especially wrt new gear and equipment) otherwise I got a very bad feeling about this expansion. The new zones and content seems like a winner, but I'm left wondering if it will be too much. SKT had three new zones to start with a fourth added mid point. While fun at first, it descended into a painful grind. I hope they add in some new features to keep them relevant and exciting between mod 16 and 17.

Well if you were an avid DnD player you'd have seen this coming for almost 7 months since neverwinter is required to follow Wizards rollouts and currently neverwinter is the only platform that is months behind in release schedules. Tabletop and the other games got undermountain last October and it was celebrated at the DnD con in San Diego.

majorcharvenak · February 2019

pitmonster#5684 said:
Holy freak'n s^%$ batman, I just started reading through the dev blog posts!

The removal of the Lifesteal and Recovery ratings are the two most significant. Lifesteal was problematic in that it invalidated most sources of healing and created a situation where a player’s health bar was typically in one of two states: full, or dead. For this reason Lifesteal was removed as a rating and there are only a couple of specific sources of lifesteal in the game going forward.

This one alone is a MASSIVE change! I mean this will completely null countless builds from various classes. Take the OP, providing extra recover buffs was a good reason to have one in the party. There there is classes like the GWF doing solo content and not having lifesteal while getting mobbed in places like Chult!

I mean wow! Its not that I disagree with the changes but the past few mods, I have little faith in the devs for getting even minor changes right in the game and these are complete overhauls!

Why do I also get the feeling that Cryptic wants to offload a bunch of Leader/Healer pets on to players. Where folks used to run with their Tiger or Archon comp, now they'll have to break out the Angel, Sunite cleric or (gawd forbid) that annoying apprentice healer when they solo. Without lifesteal or it only available through specific sources, lots of folks are gonna freak out when this thing hits live, methinks. And while I principally run support and heals on my main, this is NOT going to be a welcome change.

It also looks like they've opened up the roles in the queues to let Templocks, DPS GFs and Righteous-specced DOs queue for the healer or DPS roles. While I think that's a good thing and adds a bit more variety I do hope that add that iconography to the character portraits so that parties know who is on tap for what role (DPS, tanks, or Heals) otherwise I suspect there will be a lot of confusion after the loading screen is done. My two coppers.

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vigili · February 2019

Everything new and a lvl 80 cap.By now i should be lvl 180 or so.With other words Arc is stealing my stuff/powers again and giving em away to new players enough to make you wanna leave.Bah.

vigili · February 2019

And the so called new class stuff.The classes were already devided in 2 types of gameplay so nothing new there ARC.Tyvm,,,,,NOT.

failedsaint72 · February 2019

Well GG Devo OP cd %'s , oh and that sweet blood raven/ bloodcrystal set is now useless according to what i read so that 1m+ad I have in "new" items is junk, I thought I'd be happy reading this patch but instead I am ashamed I spent any monies in the past year, thanks.

nl54 · February 2019

"Crit cap is now 50%" I'm 100% crit, so what happens to all of my rank 11/12 brutals? There better be some kind of enchant exchange available. I can understand gear becoming obsolete, but enchants? Come on, now.

froger · February 2019

With class names changing can we get our old class names as a title?

userutf8 · February 2019

That all looks really cool (at least on paper;-)).

@nitocris83 could you or devs (in case they monitor this topic) answer these questions, please:

1. Are you guys going to create some sort of bug-bash branch on forums so that community are able to report encountered issues when new mod hits preview in March?
2. Are you guys planning to adress performance issues? Do you expect that performance issues that the game has atm are going to be partially resolved by changes to mechanics (increasing cooldowns and reducing amount of procs (aka lifesteal))?
3. Do you have plans to publish PVE mobs' stats? Aka, minion "X" has A*N critical resist and B*N damage resistance on level N.

Thanks,
@userutf8

thefiresidecat · February 2019

divectore said:
March 1? 10 days before and no preview test server? based on my experience, @everyone could expect 1 may.

3.1 is when they expect it to hit test not go live. at least that's my read

Announcing Neverwinter: Undermountain

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