The Good, the Bad, the Unexplainable

hustin1 · February 2019

An alliance member of mine had a strange story for us this morning. He was running Throne of the Dwarven Gods, the version with the shield around the throne. It wound up taking, according to him, 21 minutes. Apparently, three of the players were the reason why it took an eternity to complete. To hear him tell it, they were jumping up and down all over the map, killing everything in sight with "stupid-high dps", including, most importantly, the Thoon Hulks. According to him, over and over again the hulks could barely take a step or two before they were obliterated.

Now, I can see there being one player ignorant of how the skirmish worked and needing it explained to him. That's common -- but three? With that level of gear? The way it was told, these were players with 17k+ IL. It had us scratching our heads. We kicked around some theories but I'd like to hear from the community on this one, because to us it defied explanation.

lunartic666 · February 2019

Maybe they were PVP'ers with their me-first mentality?

namelesshero347 · February 2019

My top three theories from more likely to less likely

1) three trolls
2) three new players who know each other, paid their way to 17K, and ran ToDG for the first time
3) fairly sophisticated bots, but not good with mechanics, yet

wintersmoke · February 2019

For a few dollars more... they could have bought themselves a clue!

rjc9000 · February 2019

Aside from being bots, these players automatically assume anything with an HP bar means you are supposed to beat it down.
Trust me, these are the same players that will try to destroy harmless ice on FBI's final boss... because the ice has HP bars.

To be honest, I always found it easier to use these types of pugs as tactical ablative armour, rather than hoping they don't throw a wrench in the machine.

hustin1 · February 2019

wintersmoke said:
For a few dollars more... they could have bought themselves a clue!

I see what you did there

kreatyve · February 2019

rjc9000 said:
Aside from being bots, these players automatically assume anything with an HP bar means you are supposed to beat it down.
Trust me, these are the same players that will try to destroy harmless ice on FBI's final boss... because the ice has HP bars.

To be honest, I always found it easier to use these types of pugs as tactical ablative armour, rather than hoping they don't throw a wrench in the machine.

My guess is also this. I've noticed a similar mentality in MPF. There are times when I'm left by myself to do the doors and weapons, cause the other 4 people all just run outside to kill stuff.

greywynd · February 2019

kreatyve said:

My guess is also this. I've noticed a similar mentality in MPF. There are times when I'm left by myself to do the doors and weapons, cause the other 4 people all just run outside to kill stuff.

I learned early on to stay inside and do the weapons and the guards. Usually, I'm lucky and only 3 run out and the 5th person rouses the guards while I do the weapons.

rikitaki · February 2019

Oh, I don't know. I suspect some PUG bonus objectives!
Like in MPF: poorly geared dps chars which tend to die immediately are supposed to clash with the enemy, while the slowest walker (like OP) is left alone behind to knock on the doors and to gear up the guards.
It is sad that you finished ToDG in just about 20 mins. Who knows what miracles would be unlocked if every hulk was killed on spot for another 10 minutes?!

PUGs are mysterious and the people you can meet at such occasion are not simple.

pitmonster · February 2019

Just sounds like trolls to me, esp as they seem to be together.

froger · February 2019

I'll admit trolling like this once before. I loaded into an instance and didn't move to the door fast enough for one of the people, they spammed "get in door". So, I one shotted everything until I got kicked.

callumf · February 2019

froger#9967 said:
I'll admit trolling like this once before. I loaded into an instance and didn't move to the door fast enough for one of the people, they spammed "get in door". So, I one shotted everything until I got kicked.

I have never trolled by killing the hulks but yeah, if I get insulted earlier on I do tend to try less hard

pitmonster · February 2019

froger#9967 said:
I'll admit trolling like this once before. I loaded into an instance and didn't move to the door fast enough for one of the people, they spammed "get in door". So, I one shotted everything until I got kicked.

If someone moves to the campfire for a min, I just assume they are tweaking their powers and load out and such. Same with going into the boss fight.

The Good, the Bad, the Unexplainable

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