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My thanks to devs for the last patch and key changes.

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  • greywyndgreywynd Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 7,155 Arc User



    Have YOU been running Svardborg?

    Honestly? No. Because the entirety of Storm King's Thunder is too much grind for too little payout. I go in when I feel like it just to make a little progress towards the boons I do not yet have.

    I'm not looking for forgiveness, and I'm way past asking permission. Earth just lost her best defender, so we're here to fight. And if you want to stand in our way, we'll fight you too.
  • santralafaxsantralafax Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    greywynd said:



    Have YOU been running Svardborg?

    Honestly? No. Because the entirety of Storm King's Thunder is too much grind for too little payout. I go in when I feel like it just to make a little progress towards the boons I do not yet have.

    That's what I thought. Thank you for your wisdom on keys.
  • urabaskurabask Member Posts: 2,923 Arc User

    urabask said:


    The people this actually hurts are the people that have a pile of dragon keys they were expecting to get 60k+ out of. Everyone else is basically in the same spot with a chance at better drops.

    The only outlier is SVA but mod 11 is killing that anyways.

    Why would dragon key sales be hurt now that there is more need for them?? And yes, it hurts those of us in the middle of SVA runs for Legendary--if we bother to continue.
    Wut. There's less need for them. No one with a clue is buying them for CN/SVA like they were before.

    Anyone that's trying to continue SVA in its current state is reaaaallly bad at math too.
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  • greywyndgreywynd Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 7,155 Arc User



    That's what I thought. Thank you for your wisdom on keys.

    So you're saying it is only an issue in regards to one chest in the game.
    I'm not looking for forgiveness, and I'm way past asking permission. Earth just lost her best defender, so we're here to fight. And if you want to stand in our way, we'll fight you too.
  • kiraskytowerkiraskytower Member Posts: 455 Arc User
    edited January 2017
    greywynd said:



    That's what I thought. Thank you for your wisdom on keys.

    So you're saying it is only an issue in regards to one chest in the game.
    It's actually an issue with regards to the THREE chests in SVA ... and there is the problem. To have a shot at a legendary mark, you have to open all three. If you are all out of the keys you made in the game, that means your run of mSVA costs you three legendary dragon keys possibly for nothing but marks you cannot use. This kind of math makes it pretty unappealing to run mSVA when you don't have the in-game keys ... and hey, everyone wants to spend their gaming time catching 1000 stones weight of fish for one key, right?
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  • greywyndgreywynd Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 7,155 Arc User
    Fishing in general helped turn me off to SKT. The inherent lag that I get in Bryn and SoMI helped turn me off to SKT.
    I'm not looking for forgiveness, and I'm way past asking permission. Earth just lost her best defender, so we're here to fight. And if you want to stand in our way, we'll fight you too.
  • jonkocajonkoca Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,586 Arc User
    I'm ok with the key thing atm. admittedly I managed to get enough marks before the changes for legendary weapons, and am playing on alts with stockpiled keys from when I was VIP. However, if next mod we need anything vital from a chest... Then we will be well and truly hamsterized.
    No idea what my toon is now.
  • artturisiikanenartturisiikanen Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    THERE ARE PLAYERS WHO ARE NOT P2WIN THEY HAVE TO LOWER THE TIME TO MAKE THE KEYS IF THEY WANT TO KEEP EVEN LITTLE BIT OF PLAYERS!
  • santralafaxsantralafax Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    edited January 2017
    urabask said:




    Anyone that's trying to continue SVA in its current state is reaaaallly bad at math too.

    Only need 4 marks for mainhand, which is why I wanted to continue opening 1 chest per run. Need to run SVA once per week to vivify gear as well. Off-hand can stay purple.
  • diloul31diloul31 Member Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited January 2017
    Good for you if you feel nostalgic about old campaigns...
    But us on ps4, it's been six months only since release, we are already fed up by these old campaigns...
  • hudman21hudman21 Member Posts: 276 Arc User
    @ trieper47
    +1
    I have been buying Legendary keys (stupid me), and done multiple runs because I actually believed the RNG had gotten a little better. I am still getting garbage +1/+2 rings and have only gotten 1 rank 8 in the extra chest. I have had runs where we crush Orcus only to receive a +1 trash ring.
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  • kallephi#0836 kallephi Member Posts: 281 Arc User

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  • araneaxaraneax Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 639 Arc User
    urabask said:


    Anyone that's trying to continue SVA in its current state is reaaaallly bad at math too.

    I would agree however there is one small detail. I have 5 marks of Stig, 3 marks of other one and 2 of Ild.
    Legendary.
    What shall i do with them ? Look at them at my inventory how shiney they are ? I only need 5 more out of 15.
    I would like to complete my freaking main.
    I do not care for the off hand.
    They are both level 59 , waiting to just be refined.

    So should we just stop running it, after all the HAMSTER effort we put it ? Just ignore it all cos it is " bad " math ?
    It is not fair you know.

    If the person never did it i always recommend not to even start with it, or the grind of it.
    It does not pay off.

    But what about us who are almost there ? Who did not manage to grind them out before this HAMSTER change of HAMSTER keys ?
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  • nameexpirednameexpired Member Posts: 1,282 Arc User
    I suggest to keep your "keys" for SVA another week when the drop rate is three times as high as today.
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  • spideymtspideymt Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 710 Arc User
    dolrey said:


    So, I hope everyone see now that developers really read all our feedback :) And also in my opinion is amazing the fact that they decided this problem associated with svardborg so soon :)

    I like your sarcasm

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  • spideymtspideymt Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 710 Arc User
    edited February 2017
    Like i said: I like your sarcasm. Specifically the points "Our feedback has been read....only in one month...tested it". Very funny. :)

  • asterotgasterotg Member Posts: 1,742 Arc User
    dolrey said:

    spideymt said:

    dolrey said:


    So, I hope everyone see now that developers really read all our feedback :) And also in my opinion is amazing the fact that they decided this problem associated with svardborg so soon :)

    I like your sarcasm
    It wasn't sarcasm. Key changes had came about mounth ago. So, it is very good that all this was done in ONLY ONE MONTH:
    1) Our feedback about this problem has been read
    2) Game designers discussed all ideas and chosen the best decision in their opinion
    3) Programmers wrote needed code, introduced it into the game and tested it

    It isn't as fast as we think. In other games something like this takes much more time. So, cryptics did well I think :)

    Also there is need to say that at the same time they had been working on new module!! That's amazing!
    Yay, they TRIPLED the drop rate. I calculated the costs for a legendary set somewhere around 9 kk AD for me, as far as I remember. Now I 'just' have to do 50-100 runs and spent 'just' 3 kk AD on keys for a weapon I will use for a few month. A GREAT solution.

    BTW, this IS sarcasm.

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