Simple truth is, the vast mayority of the few remaining PVP player in this game seem to have no interest in premade vs premade PVP. And the sad truth is , that despite the fact that it should be a piece of cake to implement two seperat queues and just try to improve everyones gameexperience , cryptic is too slow or too hamster to just react and go one step forward, lol
Simple truth is, the vast mayority of the few remaining PVP player in this game seem to have no interest in premade vs premade PVP. And the sad truth is , that despite the fact that it should be a piece of cake to implement two seperat queues and just try to improve everyones gameexperience , cryptic is too slow or too hamster to just react and go one step forward, lol
Simple truth is, the vast mayority of the few remaining PVP player in this game seem to have no interest in premade vs premade PVP. And the sad truth is , that despite the fact that it should be a piece of cake to implement two seperat queues and just try to improve everyones gameexperience , cryptic is too slow or too hamster to just react and go one step forward, lol
I wouldn't say a VAST majority, just quite a few within certains guilds *AHEM* that seem to have nothing else to do in life than troll soloQers, PuGS, or whatever...
+1 on the statemant about Cryptic...COME ON guys let's make this HAMSTER permanent.
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Simple truth is, the vast mayority of the few remaining PVP player in this game seem to have no interest in premade vs premade PVP. And the sad truth is , that despite the fact that it should be a piece of cake to implement two seperat queues and just try to improve everyones gameexperience , cryptic is too slow or too hamster to just react and go one step forward, lol
I wouldn't say a VAST majority, just quite a few within certains guilds *AHEM* that seem to have nothing else to do in life than troll soloQers, PuGS, or whatever...
+1 on the statemant about Cryptic...COME ON guys let's make this HAMSTER permanent.
This was a really bad idea (and in some ways, it still is) but the game's population is declining rapidly that I wouldn't oppose making PVP limited to solo/duo queues.
implementing a solo specific que won't solve anything because someone somewhere would find a way to exploit it, these days that's what this games about......thats what most games are about and then there's people like myself who enjoy playing legit
at the end of the day there will always be a huge part of the player base who seeks huge advantage over others by any means necessary being paying (either the game maker or 3rd party sites) or exploiting or botting, just take a look on any webpage with neverwinter on it lol and this game i think is a little beyond fixing now unless they pull out all the stops.
you leave it as it is you have players exploiting solo queue to premade and decimate others, you add premade specific queue's and fix it so that solo queue is actually solo queue then you'll have wintrading (very common in wow) , you put awards in 5vs5 premade queue's then wintrading will take over there completely, you implement 1vs1 2vs2 3v3 and so on the same thing will happen because really MOST don't want a challenge they just want to mash buttons and win to make them feel all powerful...and such is the gaming world.
i know i know you all want to premade v's premade (not really though) heard it all been called a noob and scrub for refusing to fight people with double or more my gear, for refusing to fight three of them at once lol (happened a few times) , for refusing to fight a maxed out premade time and time again when they capped all points and refuse to let us get even 1!....
but anyways its unlikely my post will last long so stuff it lol already quit the game only been playing a couple of weeks and glad i didnt invest money.
I ask for the very same thing when i'm teamed up with Saberkick...
I have seen almost every PVP guild kick players to get better ones. Saber just happens to dedicate his life to the game so he's a frequently seen culprit
Well, my experience with him is not that precisely... but well, i prefer to get kicked from the team when i'm teamed up with him rather than lose 10 mins of my life.
Saber just plays way too many games and so he's going to be brought up as an example a lot of times. Like I said, I don't think he's that much better or worse than a lot of the PVP guilds.
(fyi: figured he'd try and join a PVP guild by now & PVP guilds would accept his past due to the dying population)
I have seen almost every PVP guild kick players to get better ones. Saber just happens to dedicate his life to the game so he's a frequently seen culprit
Right now it also happens often to join a match when it's already 300-20, then you go down and see that your 2k team is against the usual big PvP guild premade and nobody is fighting. Then the choice is to either sit down and waste 10 minutes or ask your team mates to kick you so you can find a match where you can fight and have fun.
Obviously this is bad for stomping 4.3k players who like to spawncamp, stomp and troll pug teams The same players who think that the only important and "smart" thing is to either win or play selfish and go after easy cheap kills playing off node. Players who run away from a fight at 4.3k iLvL to avoid getting killed.
Sad but true.
These players will always just care about winning a match instead of having fun and fight, so they will always blame their team mates/ kick them to get better ones.
But reality is that queue system is just one piece of the puzzle. Some players asked for a premade queue and some for a solo queue. But you also need class balance and gear gap issues to be solved.
PvP needs a complete rework to make it fair.
Until then, it's the playground of players who think it's smart to just stay off node and kill less geared enemies if your team can't "win", or run away from a fight to avoid getting killed once when there's no other node to contest, or that it's "fun" to spawncamp a losing enemy team, You get the idea. Sadly, this is the kind of players that get rewarded in current PvP.
2 - I don't think that he will leave Black Lotus... But if he is accepted by other PvP guilds, fine. Most of them are like him to certain degree.
I'm not so sure about that. He is still one of the best players today but PVP guilds may not forgive his past.
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forumnamesuxsMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 490Arc User
I sincerely hope that this feature never gets implemented, as long as the daily PvP AD reward exists. Take that <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> out of the equation, and they can implement all the solo qrap they want. I rarely fight in PM anyway, and the few times I did so in recent history, it's been as a guest in inhouse PMvsPM.
Will soloqueue be implemented in mod 11? Only asked, because I thought about doing some PVP again. Otherwise if we stay at PM vs Pug team 4ever it´s wasted and from minor interest for the average solo-player.
How is anyone even getting into a PVP match? I have been in queue since my 20's. I was in queue every night all of last week (avg of 4-5 hours a night), and i have yet been able to get into a match. All it does is "waiting on queue" ..or whatever that message says. I am now lvl 50 and still cannot get into a freaking match. Extremely disappointing and it makes me wonder if i'm doing something wrong? All I do is go to Queue and click on Dominion and join queue. This is on Xbox one btw
the game moderators will not respond to anything like this, they don't even respond to in game bug reports. in my opinion making the pvp solo ques permanent is the OBVIOUS thing to do because this will at leased pair up the dedicated pvp teams with other dedicated pvp teams and it will match the pug groups with other pug groups and even though pvp will always be unbalanced on this game this would at least be an attempted on neverwinters part to make some effort towards fixing pvp on this game but as I have said before they cant even sort out bugs so they will be absolutely incapable of fixing the pvp issue on this game
This is a hot topic and still is... MAKE THE SOLO QUEUE PERMINANT please... I have been asking for so long. I wont go anywhere near PvP until its actually fun again.
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How is anyone even getting into a PVP match? I have been in queue since my 20's. I was in queue every night all of last week (avg of 4-5 hours a night), and i have yet been able to get into a match. All it does is "waiting on queue" ..or whatever that message says. I am now lvl 50 and still cannot get into a freaking match. Extremely disappointing and it makes me wonder if i'm doing something wrong? All I do is go to Queue and click on Dominion and join queue. This is on Xbox one btw
@aneriel1 No one plays level 50s dom man they all play 60's or 70's =D
But yes we do need a permanant solo que its nearly impossible to get a good game these days and solo que while frustrating is still alot more fun then fighting two trs, two cws and a gf or combat hr lol.
Find me in game if you want and send me a domination/ gaunt invite. If you are good and im not busy ill play with you. Im not an elitist ill play with almost anyone.
Haven't pvped for months. The only real balance for it is random teams. Of course balancing gear, class abilities, boons, pots, etc. would be nice, but not enough. Being able to choose your team is an advantage over a team that was not hand-picked. Nothing wrong with team vs. team at all if you get to choose classes and roles they play. Not that you don't have the possibility to do decent against them, it's that the balance is off from the start if both sides are not entering the field under the same circumstances.
I think calling the event domination "solo q" brings about some confusion to players who have done no, to very little PvP. I talked with a few friends and casual contacts within the game, and they wouldn't que for it because they thought it was 1vs1 PvP.
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starheretic70Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 52Arc User
edited July 2017
Should PvP Solo queue be made permanent? NO
the problem will still be the same : high level players will still destroy everything
cut the level 70 in half and no gear change inside, that's it so low gear will go against their kind and have a chance to have a good fight
I'm almost best in slot on my main and I still see players with green/blue/purple pve gear ... I am not trolling
They should make the PvP solo queue permanent. It is true that it will not fix how widely unbalanced the classes are. Or how gear dependent is the power gap between players are. But at least it will alleviate the issue of pickup groups being totally trampled by premades. I have played a lot of PvP this weekend because of the solo queue event. Even if there is someone on the opposite team that completely demolish our entire group, there is a fair chance that a similarly equipped player will be on our team to even him/her out causing for a much closer and intense match. Now compare that to being matched 90% of the time with a BIS all meta premades that will just roll your team over and you would have to wait 15 minutes on the campfire for the timer to trickle out. All the time you'll be thinking why PvP is even present on this game.
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+1 on the statemant about Cryptic...COME ON guys let's make this HAMSTER permanent.
Danke
Never mind, it is listed as event, oh well, will enjoy it while it lasts.
at the end of the day there will always be a huge part of the player base who seeks huge advantage over others by any means necessary being paying (either the game maker or 3rd party sites) or exploiting or botting, just take a look on any webpage with neverwinter on it lol and this game i think is a little beyond fixing now unless they pull out all the stops.
you leave it as it is you have players exploiting solo queue to premade and decimate others, you add premade specific queue's and fix it so that solo queue is actually solo queue then you'll have wintrading (very common in wow) , you put awards in 5vs5 premade queue's then wintrading will take over there completely, you implement 1vs1 2vs2 3v3 and so on the same thing will happen because really MOST don't want a challenge they just want to mash buttons and win to make them feel all powerful...and such is the gaming world.
i know i know you all want to premade v's premade (not really though) heard it all been called a noob and scrub for refusing to fight people with double or more my gear, for refusing to fight three of them at once lol (happened a few times) , for refusing to fight a maxed out premade time and time again when they capped all points and refuse to let us get even 1!....
but anyways its unlikely my post will last long so stuff it lol already quit the game only been playing a couple of weeks and glad i didnt invest money.
(fyi: figured he'd try and join a PVP guild by now & PVP guilds would accept his past due to the dying population)
Obviously this is bad for stomping 4.3k players who like to spawncamp, stomp and troll pug teams
The same players who think that the only important and "smart" thing is to either win or play selfish and go after easy cheap kills playing off node.
Players who run away from a fight at 4.3k iLvL to avoid getting killed.
Sad but true.
These players will always just care about winning a match instead of having fun and fight, so they will always blame their team mates/ kick them to get better ones.
But reality is that queue system is just one piece of the puzzle. Some players asked for a premade queue and some for a solo queue. But you also need class balance and gear gap issues to be solved.
PvP needs a complete rework to make it fair.
Until then, it's the playground of players who think it's smart to just stay off node and kill less geared enemies if your team can't "win", or run away from a fight to avoid getting killed once when there's no other node to contest, or that it's "fun" to spawncamp a losing enemy team,
You get the idea. Sadly, this is the kind of players that get rewarded in current PvP.
Take that <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> out of the equation, and they can implement all the solo qrap they want. I rarely fight in PM anyway, and the few times I did so in recent history, it's been as a guest in inhouse PMvsPM.
Only asked, because I thought about doing some PVP again. Otherwise if we stay at PM vs Pug team 4ever it´s wasted and from minor interest for the average solo-player.
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No one plays level 50s dom man they all play 60's or 70's =D
But yes we do need a permanant solo que its nearly impossible to get a good game these days and solo que while frustrating is still alot more fun then fighting two trs, two cws and a gf or combat hr lol.
I think calling the event domination "solo q" brings about some confusion to players who have done no, to very little PvP. I talked with a few friends and casual contacts within the game, and they wouldn't que for it because they thought it was 1vs1 PvP.
the problem will still be the same : high level players will still destroy everything
cut the level 70 in half and no gear change inside, that's it
so low gear will go against their kind and have a chance to have a good fight
I'm almost best in slot on my main and I still see players with green/blue/purple pve gear ... I am not trolling
It is true that it will not fix how widely unbalanced the classes are. Or how gear dependent is the power gap between players are. But at least it will alleviate the issue of pickup groups being totally trampled by premades.
I have played a lot of PvP this weekend because of the solo queue event. Even if there is someone on the opposite team that completely demolish our entire group, there is a fair chance that a similarly equipped player will be on our team to even him/her out causing for a much closer and intense match. Now compare that to being matched 90% of the time with a BIS all meta premades that will just roll your team over and you would have to wait 15 minutes on the campfire for the timer to trickle out. All the time you'll be thinking why PvP is even present on this game.