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TR Sabo balance needed
matthiasthehun76
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Hi fellow Gamers!
I too play a TR in PVP nowadays, but i would like to see more fair games and as long as this build runs around we won't have it. People always take advantage of easy routes and the dark side is much easier to follow, for most.
Pure sportsmanship has died cause the game allows for such cheesy builds. Other classes or even a TR, who is not Sabo MUST spend on arm pen, now sadly 99% of the TR community runs this or a very similar cookie cutter build and they come and brag around, how skilled they are or how bad the other's build is. This is by no means balance! Now take a look at it and tell me is this right?
Zero (!) arm pen and just spamming the slam dunk around, one word from me, meh.
Don't get me wrong i have no problems with the Sabo tree as a concept, nor do i have any major problems with slam dunk, of course as long as they are in decent boundaries, but this monstrosity build ruins all fun for all opposing sides.
I know lot will come and smear me and say i am so bad or i whine again, let them come, one day i hope balancing will reach Sabo too and this nonsense will end, let them too spend points on arm pen and do something other than slam dunk, let them develop real skills.
Now enjoy this screenshot and tell me- hand on heart- is this right and/or fair.
Moderator Note: Edited to not be a directed topic at the developers. Also, moved to the TR forum for a proper TR discussion.
I too play a TR in PVP nowadays, but i would like to see more fair games and as long as this build runs around we won't have it. People always take advantage of easy routes and the dark side is much easier to follow, for most.
Pure sportsmanship has died cause the game allows for such cheesy builds. Other classes or even a TR, who is not Sabo MUST spend on arm pen, now sadly 99% of the TR community runs this or a very similar cookie cutter build and they come and brag around, how skilled they are or how bad the other's build is. This is by no means balance! Now take a look at it and tell me is this right?
Zero (!) arm pen and just spamming the slam dunk around, one word from me, meh.
Don't get me wrong i have no problems with the Sabo tree as a concept, nor do i have any major problems with slam dunk, of course as long as they are in decent boundaries, but this monstrosity build ruins all fun for all opposing sides.
I know lot will come and smear me and say i am so bad or i whine again, let them come, one day i hope balancing will reach Sabo too and this nonsense will end, let them too spend points on arm pen and do something other than slam dunk, let them develop real skills.
Now enjoy this screenshot and tell me- hand on heart- is this right and/or fair.
Moderator Note: Edited to not be a directed topic at the developers. Also, moved to the TR forum for a proper TR discussion.
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Robert E. Lee
I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself.
Winston Churchill
The human race is a herd. Here we are, unique, eternal aspects of consciousness with an infinity of potential, and we have allowed ourselves to become an unthinking, unquestioning blob of conformity and uniformity. A herd. Once we concede to the herd mentality, we can be controlled and directed by a tiny few. And we are.
David Icke
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SInce mod 10 you are not alone similar build run and the hr combat WITH 0 armor penetration.
Robert E. Lee
I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself.
Winston Churchill
The human race is a herd. Here we are, unique, eternal aspects of consciousness with an infinity of potential, and we have allowed ourselves to become an unthinking, unquestioning blob of conformity and uniformity. A herd. Once we concede to the herd mentality, we can be controlled and directed by a tiny few. And we are.
David Icke
In the other hand, power-armp and some recovery doesnt work at all, with the SH boons i have:
1) https://gyazo.com/9c55f555df4bbfd5c27f48ea48314fb8 or
2)https://gyazo.com/74dcc0ae7494cf8d1e832c26a9465570
that extra armor penetration feels useless. TR encounter-atwill damage is too low against geared players.
i dont like the SE build, but i dont blame saboteurs to take that path, since is the only power that hits hard.
dazing strike? lashing blade? no more than 5k-15k damage with those powers (with power+armp), which are supossed to be the nukes actually hit less than a GF at will power or the same of sure strike.
Nerf SE and put some of that damage on encounter-at will powers-passives.
The last sentence of yours: "Self gimping because I won't play MI Sab cheese is really getting old." is what i feel day in and day out when playing my TR in PVP. Sadly even veteran players sometimes bash on my girl for not being able to do, what a Sabo can do and yes i feel the same as you about having to run the extra mile just to enjoy myself in PVP, only cause i don't like the cheesy-easy way of the Sabo.
Robert E. Lee
I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself.
Winston Churchill
The human race is a herd. Here we are, unique, eternal aspects of consciousness with an infinity of potential, and we have allowed ourselves to become an unthinking, unquestioning blob of conformity and uniformity. A herd. Once we concede to the herd mentality, we can be controlled and directed by a tiny few. And we are.
David Icke
No shocking no damage at all. Remove shocking for what is worth. The class is boring af to play regardless
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I always used armor pen, mobility, power, lifesteal, recovery, deflect. In that order
14000 armor pen (doesn't do much in pvp you need 145% armor pen to break through all the way)
13000 mobility (love it, allow's me to run to nodes at Mount speed)
17000 power (not the best but it's ok)
6000 lifesteal (depression in pvp but is nice to heal in combat without potions)
3000 recovery (just enough to make smoke bomb 15 seconds cooldown)
2000 deflect (I rather rely on itc)
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