Rank 5 VIP AD Benefit

colier · August 2016

All Rank 4 benefits, plus:

Per Character
•Invoke from anywhere
•Improved invocation rewards: 10% more rough AD, additional item rewards from Invoking

Question 1: Is the 10% rough AD obtained during the old method (Prior to Mod 10) of invoking from Rank 5 VIP now being added as an additional bonus amount to the Invoking bonus you now get from Invoking in Mod 10. (Meaning...do we receive an additional 10% bonus compared to someone with no VIP)?

Question 2: Or is this just another benefit removed from the VIP rewards.

greywynd · August 2016

I am seeing the same numbers for the bonus as I did for the RAD from invoking.

xxmantaraxx · August 2016

I would like clarification on this as well. I feel like im geting the same amount from skermishes as before I had a "bonus pool."

But if they mathed it to be a 10% bonus to the % RAD bonus from Invoccation, AD gain would be so small no one would notice.

In my mind VIP should be calculated this way: (RAD+Invocation)+VIP

It should be salvage/daily/weekly quest reward+ your RAD bonus from invocation then +10% VIP on the total.

Im paying for that 10% bonus it should be calculated after all other bonuses.

tervalas · August 2016

I pay to have the up high back last spring and to have the 10% bonus and the when they had the companion add on I bought that package so I didn't loose what rank I had for the rest of the year but if I known they would remove cheat me like they do with my benefits I would never have got it in the first place because 10% of nothing is nothing so there really is no benefit to having the rank that high. Just like people get those coupons constantly from opening the stuff from praising and they end up with just as much discount and more with the key one for things that cost zen with someone who has a VIP at this rate my recommendation to anyone thinking of even getting VIP is that its worthless. There is no benefit to having to pay that exorbitant about for VIP save your money and skip the VIP if you buy zen never buy the VIP because what you get back from it is worthless. To make VIP worth something with the discounts they need to have things like coupons and discounts they put out for everyone (even people without VIP) take those discount to the VIP who pay for the additional discount and add the VIPs discount on top of them. Say they have the 40% discount like they did last spring for all mounts if someone has the VIP where they get the 10% or the 15% off everything in the zen market the mounts should have the 10% or 15% off after the 40% for the VIP.

Since they want to make the VIP benefits that I payed good money worthless I guess when my benefits are going to expire I will not renew them for they are worthless anyway. They promise one thing for our money and then take it away and don't give us it they can be looking at lawsuits from some people not myself but some people because they are not delivering what they promised in the first place. But with this trick they pulled I tell you my husband, my daughter, and her boyfriend will not be buying zen to get VIP benefits for they all can use bank signpost and the rest when we are together I just call that stuff up for them. Most stuff they would buy for ZEN they get coupons regular enough or just wait for sale to get at better prices then the VIP gives anyway. The removal of AD from praising makes it so lower toons can not buy on Auction house or even post because of fees unless they buy ZEN to change into AD and that gets expensive after a while to the point people will not be doing it. I know if I was just starting out to play this game with my first character I would not keep playing because I couldn't afford the better gear or even post anything on the AH without buying ZEN to exchange for AD and I like to try things out before putting money in and at that point the game would seam worthless to me to keep going far enough to be willing to buy anything with real money. As it is I feel like I payed for a money hole now with my VIP benefits and if they do not improve the VIP benefits before things expire with me I am not going to buy it again and maybe even I might end up stop playing eventually because I'll run out of AD for things on AH and I only spent ZEN on things I couldn't get there. If I have to spend ZEN for AD to buy on AH it is not going to happen. I already have seen that stuff I put on the AH for AD is not selling no more. I will not be buying stuff or even looking for somethings anymore on AH because it was hard enough to get enough AD from praising and salvaging to buy what I needed but with one removed and the other lowered I definitely will be avoiding buying except what is absolutely necessary and when my VIP runs out I will not even be posting because will not have AD to spare for fees.

They could at least make it so the VIP rank 5 or higher got the amount they would have gotten extra at each praising for all who had VIP rank 5 or higher until there subscription time they had runs out that they had when this was taken from us. Say like I was up to lvl 70 with my toons and by the fifth praising I got 3300AD all together 300 was from the 10% bonus well if I would have the 300 by that praising I would be a little happier not completely but a little.

frozenfirevr · August 2016

^ wow... Did you type all that?! Sorry, I skipped after 2 lines

plasticbat · August 2016

I think he just wanted to keep the same theme as the snow storm.

tervalas · August 2016

I know a way to replace this partly when you go to refine the rough AD to regular you get an extra 10% at that point.say you have 400 rough AD and you go to refine to regular AD you get 440 regular AD not as good as getting rough AD with praising because you don't always get rough AD during the day but if you get say some salvageable item during the day 2000 and you did your praising so you get the 50% equals 3000 with the 10 % you could have 3300 regular AD added which that 300 would make up for on that day for lost from praising VIP benefit but only on days you get more then 3000 rough AD to refine.

rgutscheradev · August 2016

You still get the VIP bonus applied to the boost.

So, for example, for a full day's round of invoking at max level, before you would get:
3000 rAD (non - VIP)
3300 rAD (max VIP)

Now the numbers have been increased, but it's a boost:
3600 rAD boost (non - VIP)
3960 rAD boost (max VIP)

You can save up the boost for as long as you like (it never goes away, although it is capped at 100,000, so you don't want to invoke forever and ever without playing). Anytime you earn rAD anywhere in the game, you get 50% of that earn added on top out of your boost pool (until your boost pool is used up). It works just like the XP boost pool does (you might have noticed invoking sometimes gives you plain XP, sometimes an XP boost -- that's not new, it's been like that for a while).

So the VIP bonus hasn't gone down. It's still there. (In fact, it's gone up a teensy bit, from 300/day to 360/day, since the base numbers have gone up.)

colier · August 2016

Thank you all for you're responses...and thank you rgutscheradev for the clarification. I have been saving most of my bonus for the last couple of days. I did try salvaging a ring and it seemed almost the same...but seemed to take a lot of bonus from that day for just 1 ring. I can't play a lot during the week, very limited due to real life. But this weekend I will be running many dungeons like always and will the effect of the bonus there.

Again, thank you all...

carl103 · August 2016

Thank you all for you're responses...and thank you rgutscheradev for the clarification. I have been saving most of my bonus for the last couple of days. I did try salvaging a ring and it seemed almost the same...but seemed to take a lot of bonus from that day for just 1 ring. I can't play a lot during the week, very limited due to real life. But this weekend I will be running many dungeons like always and will the effect of the bonus there.

Again, thank you all...

Remember rings are worth a lot less now, typical T1 rings are worth 2/3 so the bonus AD effectively puts you back where you were before they cut the value.

xxmantaraxx · August 2016

carl103 said:

Remember rings are worth a lot less now, typical T1 rings are worth 2/3 so the bonus AD effectively puts you back where you were before they cut the value.

exactly, Was getting 3300 from a blue ring before. now with both bonuses im getting 3300.

colier · August 2016

I logged in last night and leveled with a few kills. I got my reward which was 30k rAD and a Power Point. (shocked I was).
The bonus I was saving for the weekend was all used up on opening my reward. I ended up getting just over 39k rAD. So the bonus I guess is on all types of rAD received.

plasticbat · August 2016

colier said:
I logged in last night and leveled with a few kills. I got my reward which was 30k rAD and a Power Point. (shocked I was).
The bonus I was saving for the weekend was all used up on opening my reward. I ended up getting just over 39k rAD. So the bonus I guess is on all types of rAD received.

The possibility of getting 3K AD from XP reward is the reason why I allow that reward dialog blocking my view of multiple toons in the bottom right. I am not going to open them until I stash over 15K bonus.

Rank 5 VIP AD Benefit

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