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  • micky1p00micky1p00 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,594 Arc User
    @jaysun1977 Great posts.

    About the tenser. The tenser is not a good indicator in any way, there was only few (mostly 1 posted) and Tenser specifically was governed by it's lack of active power. While the new legendary mounts had stat benefit.
    Also lockbox introduction, for example the resurgence at Thu 12 Nov 2015
    https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/neverwinter/news/detail/9649803-developer-blog:-the-glorious-resurgence-lockbox
    Will affect supply combined with the keys from ViP, that btw was introduced at Fri 07 Aug 2015
    https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/neverwinter/news/detail/9492533-neverwinter:-introducing-the-vip-program!

    Regardless it's clear that players with VIP list the items higher than non ViP players, there is no loss in not selling and unless there is a foreseeable loos of value to the specific item, there is no reason to list it low when there is a chance to sell it high and failure to sell wont cost the 2%.
  • greywyndgreywynd Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 7,152 Arc User

    greywynd said:

    I'm just curious as to why the game company/devs have an aversion to making RP drops BtA rather than nerf the various enchants and skills nodes into uselessness.

    Because making all RP BtA silos all RP to an account. There will be no market for RP. The problem with this is the amount of RP needed to upgrade your gear. There isn't enough waking hours, let alone playing hours, to upgrade all your equipment to a high level. Unless you maintain a leadership army, you will need to buy RP in the market. Would you like it if blood rubies from the zen store is your only option?
    At no point was "all" inferred. Skill nodes, yes. Enchants, yes. There are other sources for refinement stuff.
    I'm not looking for forgiveness, and I'm way past asking permission. Earth just lost her best defender, so we're here to fight. And if you want to stand in our way, we'll fight you too.
  • namelesshero347namelesshero347 Member Posts: 2,109 Arc User
    greywynd said:

    greywynd said:

    I'm just curious as to why the game company/devs have an aversion to making RP drops BtA rather than nerf the various enchants and skills nodes into uselessness.

    Because making all RP BtA silos all RP to an account. There will be no market for RP. The problem with this is the amount of RP needed to upgrade your gear. There isn't enough waking hours, let alone playing hours, to upgrade all your equipment to a high level. Unless you maintain a leadership army, you will need to buy RP in the market. Would you like it if blood rubies from the zen store is your only option?
    At no point was "all" inferred. Skill nodes, yes. Enchants, yes. There are other sources for refinement stuff.
    Well. Who knows then. Maybe they want to eventually get rid of skill nodes. Easier to do it when they are nearly useless like now.
  • tssq2014tssq2014 Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    desisti said:

    Only the community managers read this.

    Not even him...

    If you cut the prices by 30% and double your sales as a result of that you just increased your profit. As I said: not business majors.

    Not gonna happen ever. Chineseses are behind the wheel of the company, not some small band of friend that love D&D. Those guys at the top don't know what D&D is, they don't know how does this game look like for that mater, only thing they see is excel chart at the end of the month with some $$ ££ €€ on it, that is it.

    You know what?!, the Chinese neverwinter server, they had reduced the blood ruby price from 800 zen to 80 zen to against Bot after someone open a post on their popular games forum exploit how to bot....

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  • ajlir#7970 ajlir Member Posts: 367 Arc User
    edited June 2016
    tssq2014 said:


    You know what?!, the Chinese neverwinter server, they had reduced the blood ruby price from 800 zen to 80 zen to against Bot after someone open a post on their popular games forum exploit how to bot....

    Can you put the pic into Imgur? I can't see the pic and the page keeps loading.
    Also, my roots can go kill themselves.

    And should this game go 6 feet under, what other f2p MMOs can you suggest? (pls, no TERA. Give some love to Aussies)
  • namelesshero347namelesshero347 Member Posts: 2,109 Arc User


    You see, you might be feeling clever and cheekiny, undercutting your competitors, but you are actually the sucker in that tradeoff. Your competitor might as well have been the very one buying your companion and selling it with a profit in the process.

    Undercutting to most people is improving the price a bit so their listing shows up first and improves the chances of being the next one sold. It is an excellent strategy to get your item sold fast and not have it linger until it expires. With the existing AH bugs, if you are not careful about your starting bid and your listing lingers, it can get picked off at patch time. No one can flip and profit from your undercut as long if you don't discount more than 10%.
  • unstablevikingunstableviking Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 72 Arc User
    I am trying to even understand why anyone would take the time to post this topic... There are sooo many really good games out there... instead of trying to fix this one, which is like trying to fix a flat tire with some gum and a rubber band, it just isn't ever going to happen. Either accept the fact the game is what it is, or move on like 1000's and 1000's already have. I know because my guild of 100 accounts and 300 players is now... just me.
  • jaysun1977jaysun1977 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 177 Arc User
    edited June 2016
    clonkyo1 said:

    OR, you can be the smart one FORCING other players to undercut your already undercutted item to buy THEIR item on a lower price than yours and make some profit. After all, "econometrics" are a gamble, like it or not... (edit) unless your "rival" is certain mod from this forum whom defends overall the "State's capitalism" or AKA "marxism"

    I explained in length why that statement is wrong. You should have read it and/or watched the videos.
  • therealprotextherealprotex Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 526 Arc User

    I am trying to even understand why anyone would take the time to post this topic... There are sooo many really good games out there... instead of trying to fix this one, which is like trying to fix a flat tire with some gum and a rubber band, it just isn't ever going to happen. Either accept the fact the game is what it is, or move on like 1000's and 1000's already have. I know because my guild of 100 accounts and 300 players is now... just me.

    Because some, like me, like the D&D setting and its general implementation of this game. From that point of view, it is in a line with some famous games like Icewind Dale, Baldur's Gate and Neverwinter Nights. Agreed, perhaps Black Ice Studios, BioWare or even Obsidian would be a better choice for the development department (or to be more fair: perhaps Interplay Entertainment, Black Isle Studios or Atari would be the better choice for the publisher), but nontheless, NWO is still the best set D&D game at the moment (in my opinion).
  • kievitzkievitz Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 260 Arc User
    Just wondering what WotC and Hasbro have to say about this. How aware are they of whats going on with a game they are affiliated with?

    And for the chinese to lower their prices, wondering what the *ell is going on here? First they wanna make content parallel on every platform and still we get server autonomy...???

    Already posted on another thread about adding a random ID verification system on NWO, triggering on, dungeon campfires, after boss fights, instance changes after multiple consecutive battles etc., yeah, it takes a few seconds now and then to for a player to aswer the pop-up, but if they really wanna fight bots thats one way to have go at them.

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  • kievitzkievitz Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 260 Arc User
    clonkyo1 said:

    kievitz said:

    Just wondering what WotC and Hasbro have to say about this. How aware are they of whats going on with a game they are affiliated with?

    And for the chinese to lower their prices, wondering what the *ell is going on here? First they wanna make content parallel on every platform and still we get server autonomy...???

    Already posted on another thread about adding a random ID verification system on NWO, triggering on, dungeon campfires, after boss fights, instance changes after multiple consecutive battles etc., yeah, it takes a few seconds now and then to for a player to aswer the pop-up, but if they really wanna fight bots thats one way to have go at them.

    Or, maybe, seems like you still dont get "how" to do so and you just uploaded a vid on which says that "trying to undercut a undercut already item is not as profitable as you think" which, depending totally on your luck, can be a good or a bad trade... And, if you know how to "force" it, it's usually a "win" scenario.
    clonkyo1 are you high on something :)? i cant make any sense out of your comment, that supposedly refers to my post, did you misclick the quote?
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  • greywyndgreywynd Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 7,152 Arc User
    Do I undercut when I sell? Yes. Primary issue to me is selling and getting the AD on my character. Nothing more.
    I'm not looking for forgiveness, and I'm way past asking permission. Earth just lost her best defender, so we're here to fight. And if you want to stand in our way, we'll fight you too.
  • deathbeezdeathbeez Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 789 Arc User
    macjae said:

    The problem with the topic is that it's misdirected. They aren't trying to fight bots, they're trying to fight players.....

    @macjae I agree with your entire post.
  • tripsofthrymrtripsofthrymr Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,624 Community Moderator
    snotty said:


    And the only reason that the ZAX is where its at now is because cryptic removed the wards from the T-bar store under the lie that they're policy is to not have the sane items in the zen store and the T-bar store.....nevermind the fact that Stone of health and scroll of mass life are still in both stores.

    The other reason it's where it's at is because Preview showed a 50% off the entire Zen store on June 16th only. Granted, it was creeping close to 500 again before that happened, but it capped and backlogged the same day the preview calendar was noticed.

    The 16th is around the corner. We'll see what happens to the ZAX on the 17th.
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