Xbox Righteous DC here, seeking advice

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• putzboy78 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,950 Arc User

  April 2016

  1) Significantly increasing damage as a DC is challenging, especially if you don't want to sacrifice you debuff skills. I use high crit to proc fire of the gods to then proc bear your sins. While in theory with so much of our personal damage coming from Fire of the Gods (22%) and its very long run time you don't need high crit to get this damage. I just like to ensure that it procs on/near the first hit every time. Outside of that logic for stacking crit, you can use the established crit/power ROI formulas to optimize your build.
  
  2) Honestly for sets I'm not sure how big a difference they are going to make. Post nerf LoL bonus makes up about 2% of my dps. I tested a simple switch of the belt to +4 wisdom only and noticed a 3% decrease in dps. But with that switch I lost about 2% crit chance. So imperial may give better stats or mix set may be ideal (imperial belt, book of the dead). More testing left to do and its being hampered by the broken vendor in PE.
  
  3) My active is a shadow demon and he accounts for almost 40% of my dps (that's like my top two attacks combined). He benefits greatly from my debuffs. Also you can stack over 100% crit severity with comapions and boons if you want to stick with the debuff enchant
  
  4) Dread and Vorpal performance in terms of personal dps are not as lopsided as you would think. With Fire of the Gods and Brand of the Sun being our top two damage spells, Divine Glow not procing weapon damage, and using a non-attack power like Astral Shield when grouped with GFs you will find probably find that Dread helps with solo play but will not make much difference when debuff/buffing in parties.
  
  Regardless you will not be withing 30M of top DPS on paingiver in high dps parties. GWFs and CWs can still rule the show and all your debuffing only gives them more advantage. The higher the party dps the lower your standing will be on the paingiver. To really improve on paingiver chart you have to sacrifice on your buff/debuffing.

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• sax1993 Member Posts: 126 Arc User

  April 2016

  Thanks for the insight. Did some research on the Shadow Demon, not really sure if it's WAI, I mean an attack that can be affected by buffs and hit for 250k+, I don't want to invest into him if it would just be patched. On top of that we don't have access to the avenger gear and there isn't really any adorable bite gear available for it. I'll stick with the merc for the double ring slot.
  
  Not going to stop buffing and debuffing, though I don't run astral shield too much I rather run chains to quicky apply 3x HP and Plaguefire AoE and the AP gain while in divine mode helps as well (also probably not WAI). And if there's already another class running PF, I'll probably swap to Dread and that would help chains.
  
  Sounds lame that even after Losty nerf I can't come close to being top paingiver but oh well. They really need to add buffed party damage to our damage number, maybe then more uneducated players can really see just how useful Righteous really are.

  Main: Sax Cleric (Arbiter) [Xbox and PC]
  Alts:
  Saxy Healz Paladin (Oathkeeper) [Xbox and PC]
  Saxon Ranger (Warden)
  Yuri Wizard (Thaumaturge)
  
  
  
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• putzboy78 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,950 Arc User

  April 2016

  all non-augment companions are affected by buffs and debuffs. Any companion will hit harder with us. The difference is the shadow demon is single target and has low survivability. He's the companion version of a rogue.
  
  astral shield with GF is amazing. I run Astral Shield, Chains and Divine glow when clearing trash with gf. replacing chains for BtS on bosses.
  
  Personally those uneducated players don't deserve to run with us. I don't need a chart to quantify my value and if they do then they should run with another dps instead

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• nosimo Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 48 Arc User

  April 2016

  40 Percent of your damage from the shadow demon isn't a testament to it being op, it does however give a big tell about how poor dc dps is. The highest percent damage I've seen it do on a regular dps toon with gf and dc buffs is 7 percent. That isn't much more boost than an archon.

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• putzboy78 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,950 Arc User

  April 2016

  nosimo said:

  40 Percent of your damage from the shadow demon isn't a testament to it being op, it does however give a big tell about how poor dc dps is. The highest percent damage I've seen it do on a regular dps toon with gf and dc buffs is 7 percent. That isn't much more boost than an archon.

  Are you talking about its active bonus or it as a summoned bonded companion? Cause 7% is pretty poor if its summoned and bonded.

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• nosimo Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 48 Arc User

  April 2016 edited April 2016

  This is with it summoned and it is actually very high for "companion done" damage which is why people say it's broken. I don't think any other companion comes near it as far as damage done. I never figured out it's exact dps because it will very depending on the target due to its low arp. For the sake of argument let's say it does 25k dps (this is higher than reality). Toon and pet do 75k total, that's 33 percent. If toon and pet do 250k total that's 10 percent. The pets damage is basically fixed so as the toon gets stronger the percentage done gets lower. It's good for bonding stones and a nice boost for lower dps toons but it's active bonus is borderline garbage.
  
  
  ~edit: actual dps of a legendary demon with avenger gear, azure 12s, bonding 12s on a test dummy over about 10 minutes was a little under 10k. I suspect most other companions would be around 1k.

  Post edited by nosimo on April 2016

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