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  • rinat114rinat114 Member Posts: 913 Arc User
    Heard the same a week or two ago, I'll test it this weekend and check logs.
  • oldbaldyoneoldbaldyone Member Posts: 1,840 Arc User
    Bought the Shadow Demon and upgraded to blue (to unlock the extra attack). Thing is pretty cool in action, and seems to bring up 3 stacks very fast compared to my Fire Archon. I'll likely be stacking Deflect more on my HR either way, so the active doesn't suck either.

    Wish I had the 1m AD I spent on my Allure Stone and Iron Golem to make them legendary back....ugh. At least the stone I guess has a semi-useful active.
  • godsblade#8271 godsblade Member Posts: 28 Arc User
    I want a pet like the one in the original Thor movie that Loki sends to kill Thor, Flames coming out of its head and 20 feet tall, can be shorter, flames a must.
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  • urabaskurabask Member Posts: 2,923 Arc User

    urabask said:

    urabask said:

    Fun fact: Warlock went 5 TIMES more expensive in just 24h after Laz' vid. From 800k AD to over 4m AD.
    It is even higher prize jump than in case of Pig after official CM (Andy's) PvP companion post.

    But what's sad? Sad is that people denies our arguments. But when only they see some BiS in action, they changes their mind. Even spending 4m to get their warlock. it is really sad. But after all, I believe that there are still smart players who doens't follows the majority, but thinks themsevles. And it is our job to lead them to the right side.

    We're the "testers". We do not mainstream, we do not maintain. Follow us!


    PS Just wanted to say thanks for all the testers. We make a great job and charismatic BiS like Laz can show majority result of our job. It's cool! Thanks Laz and thanks all the others. You rock!

    This is just people with rank 12 VIP trying to rip people off. Anything over 800k will sit on the AH for 5 days until the price settles again. Then when a spend reward/the winter event hits it'll drop even further. Anyone buying it now is just getting ripped off.
    lol that's if the SW Companion even drops anymore after last years event, so we wont know until the event comes out so stop spewing horse radish about rank 12 VIPers
    [...] It's more likely they'll be in the winter event than not too.
    ..wishful thinking much, huh?

    Simril event gave you a chance to get the goodies from the year before. This year I cannot remember to have seen one where the Zhentarim Warlock was offered...

    ...so I wouldn't bet on it. Correct me if I'm wrong.
    This is the part where I say I told you so ; p
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  • mamalion1234mamalion1234 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,415 Arc User
    i have and active and stone companion. i use stone when i want to have fun fighting as one player with some stats from companion. I use the blink dog when i meet not so good players in skirmishes or dungeons( i dont mean their damage general) so that way i will be like 3-4 players.
    Again i use blink dog to solo medium encounters in stronghold in 3 minutes each to get some boe rp while i do influence.
    I Dont want make myself to get bored and also i dont want my teamates too to get bored or to feel useless because of the gifts( bug procs). FIx THEM Or create some dungeons require companions wih gift stacks thanks.
  • moltenperezosomoltenperezoso Member Posts: 52 Arc User
    So here is a dumb question. In regards to a Tankadin using a Augment Ioun Stone of Allure, is it worth using 3 Rank 12 Bonding stones ?
  • gfalconiogfalconio Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 150 Arc User

    oh and now it is winter event folks don't miss out on the Zhen Warlock, dropping from winter event item, and about 200k on AH so enjoy, get one of the best companions to own for this setup with bondings and fast strikers


    a little question, i no have much ad, if i buy it but no upgrate, will work nice too?

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  • urabaskurabask Member Posts: 2,923 Arc User
    edited February 2016

    So here is a dumb question. In regards to a Tankadin using a Augment Ioun Stone of Allure, is it worth using 3 Rank 12 Bonding stones ?

    If you're going to invest in Bonding runestones you're better off switching to a summoned companion. The stat gains are too ridiculous to stick with an augment once you've made that investment.
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  • silinvhinegurusilinvhineguru Member Posts: 9 Arc User
    What about Phoera(Mystic Phoera) for Bonding stones? Has anyone tried these? Been flipping through all the different companions trying to decide on one to try. It seems like the (Mystic) Phoera has a 2 second melee dot, a 1 second AOE burn, and a 12 second ranged AOE. So in theory, it would seem like it would have a fairly easy time keeping up bonding stacks with an every second AOE, and a 2 second DOT. Or am I missing something? Yes I know its not a ranged pet, so its gonna lose time to get into melee range, and its active bonus is only situationally good, but still. Has anyone tried these?
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  • willson#2163 willson Member Posts: 87 Arc User
    Shadow demon hit hard?
    It does not compared to a BIS level character!
  • lirithiellirithiel Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,482 Arc User

    Shadow demon hit hard?

    It does not compared to a BIS level character!

    It doesn't have to, it serves its purpose quite efficiently with getting up 3 Bonding procs swiftly (which for me is 135% of its stats) and the damage it does. I will get less damage from an augment.
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  • moltenperezosomoltenperezoso Member Posts: 52 Arc User
    lirithiel said:

    Shadow demon hit hard?

    It does not compared to a BIS level character!

    It doesn't have to, it serves its purpose quite efficiently with getting up 3 Bonding procs swiftly (which for me is 135% of its stats) and the damage it does. I will get less damage from an augment.
    So are we referring to shadow demon or ghost ? I see shadow demon has a deflect dmg proc whereas the ghost gives a 5% dmg increase active bonus. Which one is better for a tankadin ?

  • urabaskurabask Member Posts: 2,923 Arc User

    lirithiel said:

    Shadow demon hit hard?

    It does not compared to a BIS level character!

    It doesn't have to, it serves its purpose quite efficiently with getting up 3 Bonding procs swiftly (which for me is 135% of its stats) and the damage it does. I will get less damage from an augment.
    So are we referring to shadow demon or ghost ? I see shadow demon has a deflect dmg proc whereas the ghost gives a 5% dmg increase active bonus. Which one is better for a tankadin ?

    People are talking about how well it procs bonding runestones. No one cares about the active ability on shadow demon.

    Not sure how much it matters given that lightfoot thief procs better and is going for the same price on the AH.
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  • willson#2163 willson Member Posts: 87 Arc User
    edited February 2016
    > @lirithiel said:

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    > It doesn't have to, it serves its purpose quite efficiently with getting up 3 Bonding procs swiftly (which for me is 135% of its stats) and the damage it does. I will get less damage from an augment.

    Zhentarim or Lightfoot is better in proccing. Shadow Demon hard hits is misleading for lower geared ppl.
  • scathiasscathias Member Posts: 1,174 Arc User
    shadow demon does 100k+ hits quite regularly, so take what you will from that about it hitting hard or not
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  • lirithiellirithiel Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,482 Arc User

    > @lirithiel said:



    >

    > It doesn't have to, it serves its purpose quite efficiently with getting up 3 Bonding procs swiftly (which for me is 135% of its stats) and the damage it does. I will get less damage from an augment.



    Zhentarim or Lightfoot is better in proccing. Shadow Demon hard hits is misleading for lower geared ppl.

    Zhentarim Warlock is only fifth on the list for Bonding procs. It's been tested and verified. Shadow Demon is third, behind (Drow) Mercenary and Lightfoot Thief. Even Blink Dog beats out Zhentarim Warlock.
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  • blinxonblinxon Member Posts: 567 Arc User
    lirithiel said:


    Zhentarim Warlock is only fifth on the list for Bonding procs. It's been tested and verified. Shadow Demon is third, behind (Drow) Mercenary and Lightfoot Thief. Even Blink Dog beats out Zhentarim Warlock.

    How is it "verified"? Tell me plz.
  • lirithiellirithiel Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,482 Arc User
    blinxon said:

    lirithiel said:


    Zhentarim Warlock is only fifth on the list for Bonding procs. It's been tested and verified. Shadow Demon is third, behind (Drow) Mercenary and Lightfoot Thief. Even Blink Dog beats out Zhentarim Warlock.

    How is it "verified"? Tell me plz.
    Jeez isn't it obvious? When one person tests something and comes to a conclusion and this is tested by others with the same results, they then verify the initial findings.
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  • schietindebuxschietindebux Member Posts: 4,292 Arc User
    edited February 2016
    blinxon said:

    lirithiel said:


    Zhentarim Warlock is only fifth on the list for Bonding procs. It's been tested and verified. Shadow Demon is third, behind (Drow) Mercenary and Lightfoot Thief. Even Blink Dog beats out Zhentarim Warlock.

    How is it "verified"? Tell me plz.
    that´s what I also read in lot´s of threads but never tested myself
    1. lightwood up to 5 stacks >1 mio AD
    heared about that mercenary too, his attacks are somehow fast and he uses this flourish, but not sure if you have to upgrade him to blue--only obtainable by promotion
    Blink dog, allways cheap and effective to prcoc bondings+ combatadvantage bonus 20k AD
    zen warlock 240kAD, not the cheapest one, but fast stacks
    --> all in all blink dog and zenwarlock are near same costs, since blinkdog needs 450k AD to spend BIS rings and necklace and zenlock only 320k AD for BIS gear
    dancing blade is also fast attacking, can´t say at which position
  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User

    blinxon said:

    lirithiel said:


    Zhentarim Warlock is only fifth on the list for Bonding procs. It's been tested and verified. Shadow Demon is third, behind (Drow) Mercenary and Lightfoot Thief. Even Blink Dog beats out Zhentarim Warlock.

    How is it "verified"? Tell me plz.
    that´s what I also read in lot´s of threads but never tested myself
    1. lightwood up to 5 stacks >1 mio AD
    heared about that mercenary too, his attacks are somehow fast and he uses this flourish, but not sure if you have to upgrade him to blue--only obtainable by promotion
    Blink dog, allways cheap and effective to prcoc bondings+ combatadvantage bonus 20k AD
    zen warlock 240kAD, not the cheapest one, but fast stacks
    --> all in all blink dog and zenwarlock are near same costs, since blinkdog needs 450k AD to spend BIS rings and necklace and zenlock only 320k AD for BIS gear
    dancing blade is also fast attacking, can´t say at which position
    the new green companion from mod 9 has 1.5 sec cooldown on base attack and a power which increase its attack speed the longer the fight lasts. Seems interesting
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  • jhpnwjhpnw Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 611 Arc User
    Since light foot thief's priced dropped below 2 mill I went that way I have 3 procts in a few seconds and see 5 or 6 procts regularly most the time every conflict is finished quickly so really don't see many long battles now I got to get my Bonded stones upgraded they are all @ 50%. I still see over 150% boost constantly and 250% regularly which is more than the 110% I get with stone though My HR survives better with boost damage is only another 12 to 15% over all no other companion I tried worked near this
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  • willson#2163 willson Member Posts: 87 Arc User

    Shadow demon hit hard?

    It does not compared to a BIS level character!

    ok keep thinking that when iv seen high crits from shadow demon, lol Shadow demon crits harder then most players iv seen in neverwinter, sure BIS player will crit harder, but my point is if you want a companion that crits hard, the shadow demon is where it is at and also seen him make players in IWD back off and rethink their attack, so all you Naysayers out there can DOG all you want and be mad all you want, SHADOW DEMON RULES!!!
    Sure. Say it more louder that makes you right!
    I can bring you ACT slides where all companion shadow demon or otherwise is a nuisance compared to the main character dmg but I think I have better things to do!
  • oldbaldyoneoldbaldyone Member Posts: 1,840 Arc User
    Pretty sure the new companion equipment, like the previous set, will have items for all slots with the same stats, so the Zhen warlock isn't better or worse due to that.
  • lirithiellirithiel Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,482 Arc User

    Shadow demon hit hard?

    It does not compared to a BIS level character!

    ok keep thinking that when iv seen high crits from shadow demon, lol Shadow demon crits harder then most players iv seen in neverwinter, sure BIS player will crit harder, but my point is if you want a companion that crits hard, the shadow demon is where it is at and also seen him make players in IWD back off and rethink their attack, so all you Naysayers out there can DOG all you want and be mad all you want, SHADOW DEMON RULES!!!
    Sure. Say it more louder that makes you right!
    I can bring you ACT slides where all companion shadow demon or otherwise is a nuisance compared to the main character dmg but I think I have better things to do!
    Please show me an instance where a Shadow Demon that hits for 100k and gives me 150% of its 4k Power is out-performed by someone running with an Augment. Actually your whole argument is invalid as we aren't comparing a companion to a player, as neither one can replace the other...
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