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Mod 8 Rings Of Stealth Revealing [Class Mechanic Breaking]
iguresan
Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 41 Arc User
Hi guys, im there to discuss this situation about how the stealth class mechanic gonna be broke next mod by some simple reasons.
1° Reason - Ring of Reflex Sight: 5~25% chance that when stuck by a foe u reveal all stealthed foes around you, 20 secs cooldown.
Lets start, if u test this ring on ptr, its clear that when the stealthed player is revealed by several seconds, something near 10 secs. The cooldown is 20 secs so 50% of the time u have stealth sight and you're able to hit the TR on stealth perfectly.
2° Reason - Ring of Vision: every 30 seconds you have 10 seconds of stealth sight.
So, when you dont have the steath sight from the first ring, probably you may have from the second one, thats clear that the develop team want to break the stealth mechanic totaly on pvp, becouse with this two rings u can break 80% of the stealth.
3° Reason - TR Path of Feats: Two of the 3 TR paths are stealth based, the last one that is based on deflection and control is nerfed and cant even control people, tank, lifesteal or do damange well.. so what is supposed for TRs go for?
The fact that TR isnt the only class with stealth mecanic is useless, becouse HRs have their class mechanic untouched, the real fact is that rings have being created only for break tr class mechanic.
TRs do have 75% deflect severity is another thing that people could use as a point of view for stealth mechanic break, but, even if you go full deflection and scoundrel, you wont be able to fight any other class at same level, becouse all other have better combat mechanics to heal HP or create control.
Please understand the point of vision and dont release something to break just ONE class on the game.
Wanna see everyone's point of view.
(Mod Edit: Do not use All-Caps. Thanks.)
1° Reason - Ring of Reflex Sight: 5~25% chance that when stuck by a foe u reveal all stealthed foes around you, 20 secs cooldown.
Lets start, if u test this ring on ptr, its clear that when the stealthed player is revealed by several seconds, something near 10 secs. The cooldown is 20 secs so 50% of the time u have stealth sight and you're able to hit the TR on stealth perfectly.
2° Reason - Ring of Vision: every 30 seconds you have 10 seconds of stealth sight.
So, when you dont have the steath sight from the first ring, probably you may have from the second one, thats clear that the develop team want to break the stealth mechanic totaly on pvp, becouse with this two rings u can break 80% of the stealth.
3° Reason - TR Path of Feats: Two of the 3 TR paths are stealth based, the last one that is based on deflection and control is nerfed and cant even control people, tank, lifesteal or do damange well.. so what is supposed for TRs go for?
The fact that TR isnt the only class with stealth mecanic is useless, becouse HRs have their class mechanic untouched, the real fact is that rings have being created only for break tr class mechanic.
TRs do have 75% deflect severity is another thing that people could use as a point of view for stealth mechanic break, but, even if you go full deflection and scoundrel, you wont be able to fight any other class at same level, becouse all other have better combat mechanics to heal HP or create control.
Please understand the point of vision and dont release something to break just ONE class on the game.
Wanna see everyone's point of view.
(Mod Edit: Do not use All-Caps. Thanks.)
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Dev's try to play pvp as a TR without stalfh, only then u can creat something like that.
Moreover - what's with the idea of making a ring that mimics one class' TAB ability? Why don't we get rings that allow melee classes become rDD for 10 seconds or make non-GWF character activate Unstoppable, huh?
Devs have nerfd TR stealth every mod and giving something good back, like critical rate by at will stealth comsuption or greater damange instead of a pvp set with 30% stealth bar.. but now thats no sense, why dont they remove the class from the game instead of doing this no sense adds?
now the ring that removed their buffs...holy HAMSTER was there a firestorm and it got pulled from launch. there is a double standard
Also, if these rings are introduced, we will end up with all PvPers and their moms using it. Which means a TR would be "revealed" quite often.
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So now yeah, why not allow EVERY CLASS to use stealth? Please tell me, who is the genius behind the idea?
And here we were all thinking "may be they will balance PvP one day", but no!! You surprise us introducing even more broken and un-needed HAMSTER items!!!!
if there are rings not supposed to delete every buffs like gwf class mechanic (unstoppable) and another like sw sparks, why is there a ring to nullify tr stealth which is their defensive tool like unstoppable may be for gwfs?
Second At end game the best TRs prooved during the NCL that they can do thousands of kills with only few deaths.
That's a total unbalance considering the global performance/ratio of the others best strikers class-character during this event.
The second part about the NLC event, leaderbord mean nothing, most of the TRs with high K/D ratios was running full premades or running solo, as we that REALY play pvp know, the matchmaking is completely useless, so if u're alone u gonna probably get players with a significant lower gear level tham you and if you're in a premade, as TR, the main strategy of holding gonna make u end with a better k/d ratio unless the enemy team have a good strategy.
The real point of this topic is, create an equip just to break stealth that is perfectly balacied now finaly, gonna break the game even and even more, its the same thing as remove a gwf unstoppable or a SW curse 90% of time from the match..
How is nullifying TR's TAB ability not a huge balancing change for Mod 8? I am very interested on the direction the devs would like TRs to take in PvP. Are you gonna give us a shield or unstoppable??
The second part about the NLC event, leaderbord mean nothing, most of the TRs with high K/D ratios was running full premades or running solo, as we that REALY play pvp know, the matchmaking is completely useless, so if u're alone u gonna probably get players with a significant lower gear level tham you and if you're in a premade, as TR, the main strategy of holding gonna make u end with a better k/d ratio unless the enemy team have a good strategy.
The real point of this topic is, create an equip just to break stealth that is perfectly balacied now finaly, gonna break the game even and even more, its the same thing as remove a gwf unstoppable or a SW curse 90% of time from the match..
Are you seriously telling to us best TRS never fought other premades during the NCL (one monthe event), against other well geared and "skilled players".
The NCL mean everything and you know it, this is a perfect event to see wich class is OP (when played correctly), and if you don't go to tell that to the SW, there were not 40 in the top 1000 due to the obvious lack of interrest of the class for domination.
To be in the first 40 TRs, it was at maximum something like page 4-5-6, it was the most diffcult class to win the prizes due to the huge niumbers of players who perfectly understood the opness of this class, and so the competion was hard between them.
The kill/death ratio is a perfect asset to see wich striker class is op linked to the win/loss ratio.
Those rings may are not the best way to balance things but at least it is something.
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Stealth and mobility is the TR counter to the GWF's CC break and insane damage and to the HR's perma stun.
If they release these rings then even maxed out deflect TR's aill get owned by seriously undergeared opponents.