I've been waiting for the update on this one, they purposely left it to last because they knew how much their changes will enrage the community, and they were right. They basically took the whole leadership profession and nerfed it to the ground. So all the months we put in the level the leadership profession to be able to enjoy the benefit from all the time we put in, has been nerfed because CRYPTIC don't want us to have to much free AD.
This is a ROYAL FU from CRYPTIC to their players stating that they don't care how much time you put into to level your professions. They will nerf it to the ground. This was basically the only way to gain good AD in the game anymore, everything else has been nerfed to the ground.
So now they take this away as well, and they don't change the RP system they actually increase the levels to it for you to take even longer to finish it. Well done CRYPTIC.
Thanks for caring so much for us, that you basically say FU to our faces what you think about us.
You already lost a of your player base due to you impractical RP system, now this as well. RIP cryptic your not going to last very long anymore
To be fair, the fact that you could get by very well with leadership was over the top. Even if it does take a ridiculous amount of effort. On the minus side, I doubt there's going to be anything else worth farming. Personally I've been trying to get them to think about how the changes aren't good for the players for a long long time. Of course it didn't change anything and I blame 2 groups of people that I wouldn't be allowed to say (not that it matters).
The player experience is very important in gaming, and I think they forgot that and focused on the wrong things.
Sure, Leadership has been nerfed, did no one really expect this? Obviously Cryptic thinks here is still too much AD in the economy (why else would they have a Marko Companion raffle - for spending AD?) Am I happy about it? No. But it's nowhere near the armageddon the OP is making it out to be. So things take longer to produce, big deal. How about you take some of your saved-up AD and either convert to Zen to buy some Professions Asset Packs or just buy some Heroes from the AH. Get them now while you can because there will be a run on them and their prices are going to only go up.
As with any change in life: you can whine and crybaby about it or you can man-up and adapt. Whichever you do says a lot about you.
Saying it's been 'nerfed to the ground' is pretty alarmist. They made the highest-AD task take a couple extra hours, it's going to be a little harder to hit the 24K cap every day now with Leadership alone. I'm not bothered at all.
I was afraid they had cut the amount of AD it made in half, or removed AD from Leadership completely or something based on how people are talking in here.
Saying it's been 'nerfed to the ground' is pretty alarmist. They made the highest-AD task take a couple extra hours, it's going to be a little harder to hit the 24K cap every day now with Leadership alone. I'm not bothered at all.
I was afraid they had cut the amount of AD it made in half, or removed AD from Leadership completely or something based on how people are talking in here.
6 hours is a little longer than a couple of extra hours...
I hear this from time to time and I really don't get the obsession with heroes. I can understand a single set if you want more toons since you get a quick way to unlock slots, though it's expensive to do so. However its 455k a hero, 1.3m for a set of 3. If I kitted up just 10 (though still somewhat high for some), that's be 13m AD investment. There's a lot of things you can do with that sort of income in the short term that seem to be as a better investment, especially at this point. Considering what they've done with artifact equipment, I'd say you shouldn't really think of spending any more than that (if you can get it in the first place which is hard if you're not already established) on your neverwinter career anyway.
now the poor will be poorer and the gap will be wider
now it will take longer to get something nice and a long the way you get bored and quit
oh,the frustration(sigh)
now the poor will be poorer and the gap will be wider
now it will take longer to get something nice and a long the way you get bored and quit
oh,the frustration(sigh)
If anything the gap would be less since it affects those with many leadership toons. Paying would still get you there instantly, but I wouldn't say that's wise considering the cost and how short lived it can be. That part is no different though.
Exactly this, thank you Angrysprite for your honesty. At least i am not the only one who feels this way, quit crying about and adapt, as we will all have to. Oh no, you cant have everything handed to you, big deal. Words to live by, Adapt and Move Along.
On the other hand people also said to accept and deal with the refining system. That didn't end up so well. Personally I tried to voice my concerns early-ish, but it took time for people to find out that it's not as cope-able as the earlier levels make it out to be. If people didn't 'whine' about it, we'd probably be stuck with paying AD to upgrade enchantments on top of what we have.
I dont see this as a nerf. Yes, raw AD per day will go down. But that is more then made up for by a huge surge in free refinement points. Considering that the biggest demand for AD was to spend it for RP. I have a hard time seeing this as a problem.
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Having actually read through that thread, it all seems reasonable to me.
In fact, as it stands now, you'll be able to get more ADs out of it, because some of the higher-demand stuff that comes out of the newer tasks isn't bound, which means you can AH them for actual ADs, instead of RADs.
While the thread does have some productive points, sadly, it is the OP that sets the tone of the thread, and the OP is nowhere near constructive. The fact that there is already an ongoing and active discussion on the preview forum also makes this thread redundant.
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See this: http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?850351-severe-reduction-ahead-in-AD-gained-through-leadership
It's because people have no choice with all the outrageous prices of everything in the game.
Exactly, I was considering this option as a last resort.. until now.
I never bothered having 11 leadership alts before T2s got annihilated.
WTB Class Reroll please
The player experience is very important in gaming, and I think they forgot that and focused on the wrong things.
Sure, Leadership has been nerfed, did no one really expect this? Obviously Cryptic thinks here is still too much AD in the economy (why else would they have a Marko Companion raffle - for spending AD?) Am I happy about it? No. But it's nowhere near the armageddon the OP is making it out to be. So things take longer to produce, big deal. How about you take some of your saved-up AD and either convert to Zen to buy some Professions Asset Packs or just buy some Heroes from the AH. Get them now while you can because there will be a run on them and their prices are going to only go up.
As with any change in life: you can whine and crybaby about it or you can man-up and adapt. Whichever you do says a lot about you.
I was afraid they had cut the amount of AD it made in half, or removed AD from Leadership completely or something based on how people are talking in here.
6 hours is a little longer than a couple of extra hours...
I hear this from time to time and I really don't get the obsession with heroes. I can understand a single set if you want more toons since you get a quick way to unlock slots, though it's expensive to do so. However its 455k a hero, 1.3m for a set of 3. If I kitted up just 10 (though still somewhat high for some), that's be 13m AD investment. There's a lot of things you can do with that sort of income in the short term that seem to be as a better investment, especially at this point. Considering what they've done with artifact equipment, I'd say you shouldn't really think of spending any more than that (if you can get it in the first place which is hard if you're not already established) on your neverwinter career anyway.
now it will take longer to get something nice and a long the way you get bored and quit
oh,the frustration(sigh)
If anything the gap would be less since it affects those with many leadership toons. Paying would still get you there instantly, but I wouldn't say that's wise considering the cost and how short lived it can be. That part is no different though.
On the other hand people also said to accept and deal with the refining system. That didn't end up so well. Personally I tried to voice my concerns early-ish, but it took time for people to find out that it's not as cope-able as the earlier levels make it out to be. If people didn't 'whine' about it, we'd probably be stuck with paying AD to upgrade enchantments on top of what we have.
Having actually read through that thread, it all seems reasonable to me.
In fact, as it stands now, you'll be able to get more ADs out of it, because some of the higher-demand stuff that comes out of the newer tasks isn't bound, which means you can AH them for actual ADs, instead of RADs.
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