Draconic templar vs corrupted black ice gear

vadimt83

So I finally have enough linus favors to get the draconic templar set (getting the helmet as drop fro tiamat helped a little).
Now I'm debating if i should get the set or keep farming linus to get the last two boons. I originally planned to switch to it, just to stop farming black ice, but linus proved to be much slower to get than I expected and my black ice keeps flowing thanks to running kessell as the daily skirmish. So I'm not in a rush.
Any opinions of how those sets compare? I'm an archery SW is that helps.

thanks

ps.
Please don't suggest me RG. My playstyle doesn't revolve around encounters so I'm not going to sacrifice stats (0 crit on the RG) for a set bonus which isn't useful to me.

caunsidh

I have just recently switched to full Draconic Templar from 2DL/2DT, and I'm very pleased with it. Stats are distributed very well, provided that it is combined with rings made by Jewelcrafting. If you don't have those rings, chances are that you will be below 24% DR.

As for the actual stat comparison, only you can know if it will suit you better than Black Ice set, but I believe that it should.

vadimt83

I have the shore set. I'm leveling jewelcrafting but not sure yet if I'll switch to the rings (my ArP is over the cap already). I'm not worried about dropping below 24% DR (where did you get that magic number btw?) because of the HP the new set will give me, seems like a fair tradeoff.

caunsidh

Shore set is nice, however those Jewelcrafting rings are BiS atm. DT is lacking in ArP and Life steal (I would have ~1300 ArP if I would remove my three Archmages' rings), which makes those rings ideal for that set. They offer a lot of power (provided that you slot radiant enchantment in offense slot), and it makes up for lost ArP. You can also slot dark enchantments in defense slots to make up for lost Life steal (as was in my case).

vadimt83 wrote: »

24% DR (where did you get that magic number btw?)

I was thinking of Resistance Ignored. My bad.

query523

24% is the highest DR found on mobs. Sothat's the PVE target for ArPen. A little curious as to how you ended up over wearing DT as it has literally no ArPen at all. Sounds like too much Strength. That is sort of the hidden strength of the DT set that you can get full use out of the PARs without wasting any points. leaving a lot of room to stack more power and crit other places.

caunsidh

query523 wrote: »

A little curious as to how you ended up over wearing DT as it has literally no ArPen at all. Sounds like too much Strength. That is sort of the hidden strength of the DT set that you can get full use out of the PARs without wasting any points. leaving a lot of room to stack more power and crit other places.

I'm not sure if that was directed towards me or vadimt83, but in my case, I have 19.2% Resistance Ignored with DT, 3 PARs (and the rest of the gear) + 5% from strength (without campfire buff), which makes it an ideal fit.

query523

Sorry yeah I was talking to vadimt83. He said he was over on ArPen which seemed a difficult feat in DT. It really cuts out wasted points since HR gear is so ArPen heavy.

vadimt83

Yes, I have a bit too high strength and together with the dex belt and artifact weapon I have around 32% resistance ignored, so I'm not worried about this department either. Only thing I'm worried about is loss of power (which isn't too shabby together with the CBI set bonus), but on the other hand I'll gain crit and my crit chance is 34% right now and i want to bring it up.

query523

Well, honestly, if you were more worried about ArPen you could fix that crit deficiency. Look at it this way. If you replace a lot of equipment/ artifacts etc. that has ArPen with things that have crit you would lose points you do not need and gain points you do need. I mean if I knew your build I could tell you which peices where. Also did you put any points into Strength when leveling? Because really the cheapest way to shift points might be to buy a retraining token and put those Strenght (ArPen) points into Wisdom (crit) giving you the outcome you want. If you could lose 10% ArPen and replace it with 10% crit you'd be pretty happy right?

vadimt83

query523 wrote: »

Well, honestly, if you were more worried about ArPen you could fix that crit deficiency. Look at it this way. If you replace a lot of equipment/ artifacts etc. that has ArPen with things that have crit you would lose points you do not need and gain points you do need. I mean if I knew your build I could tell you which peices where. Also did you put any points into Strength when leveling? Because really the cheapest way to shift points might be to buy a retraining token and put those Strenght (ArPen) points into Wisdom (crit) giving you the outcome you want. If you could lose 10% ArPen and replace it with 10% crit you'd be pretty happy right?

Yes, I did put points into strength. That how I ended up with too much of it.
Didnt know retaining token lets you reassign ability scores. I have one from the simril gifts but I was saving it for future surprises (I have all the powers thanks to power points and I'm happy with my feats. only thing I want to change is maybe a few boons).
My stength is 17 and my wisdom is 19. Is it a good idea to respec to move 3 points?
thank you

caunsidh

vadimt83 wrote: »

Yes, I did put points into strength. That how I ended up with too much of it.
Didnt know retaining token lets you reassign ability scores. I have one from the simril gifts but I was saving it for future surprises (I have all the powers thanks to power points and I'm happy with my feats. only thing I want to change is maybe a few boons).

Yes, you can reassign them, but only those ability scores that you have added during the leveling process.
You can also do a full reroll of ability scores, but for that you would have to purchase a race reroll token (beware - it will force you to change your character's face to a new model, in case your character was made before Module 4).

vadimt83 wrote: »

My stength is 17 and my wisdom is 19. Is it a good idea to respec to move 3 points?

Yes, it is a good idea. In my opinion, you shouldn't have more than 15 strength (without campfire buff).
Dexterity and Wisdom should be stacked, other ability scores are not so important.

query523

I can definately say.... maybe? Like I said you micht be able to move the same points by altering your equipment. I have a 17 strength (no points in it, 1/2 orc) and am sitting right on 24% with DT, PARs, and the rest of my gear dedicated to power and crit. But that is one way you can turn un-used ArPen into usefull Crit.

vadimt83

caunsidh wrote: »

Yes, you can reassign them, but only those ability scores that you have added during the leveling process.
You can also do a full reroll of ability scores, but for that you would have to purchase a race reroll token (beware - it will force you to change your character's face to a new model, in case your character was made before Module 4).



Yes, it is a good idea. In my opinion, you shouldn't have more than 15 strength (without campfire buff).
Dexterity and Wisdom should be stacked, other ability scores are not so important.

Race reroll is 1500 zen. wow, No way i'm buying that. I'm still debating if to use my retaining token now or save it till something major changes (ie mod 6)

query523 wrote: »

I can definately say.... maybe? Like I said you micht be able to move the same points by altering your equipment. I have a 17 strength (no points in it, 1/2 orc) and am sitting right on 24% with DT, PARs, and the rest of my gear dedicated to power and crit. But that is one way you can turn un-used ArPen into usefull Crit.

Moving to draconic templar set will move some points from power and arp into crit, I'm just not sure if the outcome will be good. On the other hand I'll switch from my CBI set to this one or something else (mod 6 again?) eventually, so i'll have to take this into account. Also i have a few boons which give arp and this is also something to consider changing when I'll respec.

I guess I'll sit on my linus and the retaining token until we'll get details about mod 6 or until I run out of black ice, then get a new gear set and decide on the respec.

thanks guys.

lirithiel

I'm actually running with 2 DT (head-armor)/2 CBI (arms-feet). It's a good mix. The 4-piece CBI set bonus is better than DT one imo but neither is that good to keep. My Power is roughly 400 higher in 2/2 than 4p CBI. Only a small loss of Defence, everything else is a gain.