Swordmaster or Iron Vanguard for pvp?

definemyth

Which is viable for pvp? I have played iron van guard before, i wanna try something new. Is swordmaster good? pls let me know

definemyth

for gf btw

ghoulz66

IV only sadly. Trample the Fallen is the only useful feature for pvp.

And flourish will remain as <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> for pvp with it's slow speed.

koalazebra1

yup flourish is so ez to dodge.

ghoulz66

koalazebra1 wrote: »

yup flourish is so ez to dodge.

Hold it! Hold it! Ima GUNA STEB YU!

Even though the encounter mentions grace and blinding speed n' other <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>.....

ravenan

Bull Charge -> Cresendo -> Flurish -> 2x Crushing Surge -> Anvil of Doom (most pugs die, even top HR feal that combo)

Without Cresendo:

Bull Charge -> Flurish -> 2x Crushing Surge -> Anvil of Doom

Ps. When u use flurish at start of dodge of TR whose going stealth, after dodge he will get stuned and get out of it. Need some practice. You can use slow activation to your advanage.

icyphishy

ravenan wrote: »

Bull Charge -> Cresendo -> Flurish -> 2x Crushing Surge -> Anvil of Doom (most pugs die, even top HR feal that combo)

Without Cresendo:

Bull Charge -> Flurish -> 2x Crushing Surge -> Anvil of Doom

Ps. When u use flurish at start of dodge of TR whose going stealth, after dodge he will get stuned and get out of it. Need some practice. You can use slow activation to your advanage.

Pretty sure he is refering to GWF....

ravenan

definemyth wrote: »

for gf btw

yep for sure

gfalconio

Since front line surge nerf. Sword master is a good option flourish can do a sexy damage if you have a good crit chance and plaguefire. Is true flourish no is easy for use but remember enemies can take damage too when dodge. My cicle is griffon-flourish-anvil. Only when have and decent dc on party i change flourish to kvalor. Sorry my bad english xd

urlord283

Mine is Lunge-flourish-anvil

I need to close on the Magic users and archers with Lunge

It works till I get stunned

Ho do I avoid that?

Urlord

sukulazz

urlord283 wrote: »

Mine is Lunge-flourish-anvil

I need to close on the Magic users and archers with Lunge

It works till I get stunned

Ho do I avoid that?

Urlord

The only way to avoid getting stunned (in theory atleast) is knowing when to guard, anticipating enemies encounters, but mainly knowing what those encounters are/do, what there animations look like and a rough estimate of the cooldown times. With enough combat you learn all these things, but it does take a good amount of practice.


And to answer to the main question whether SM or IV it is truly a personal choice both have there pros and cons. I personally am SM but in my opinion the only way to pull off SM successfully is having a good amount of guard and also having a decent amount of movement to compensate for not having Threatening Rush

urlord283

sukulazz wrote: »

The only way to avoid getting stunned (in theory atleast) is knowing when to guard, anticipating enemies encounters, but mainly knowing what those encounters are/do, what there animations look like and a rough estimate of the cooldown times. With enough combat you learn all these things, but it does take a good amount of practice.


And to answer to the main question whether SM or IV it is truly a personal choice both have there pros and cons. I personally am SM but in my opinion the only way to pull off SM successfully is having a good amount of guard and also having a decent amount of movement to compensate for not having Threatening Rush

Thanks

My problem is some invisible guy comes from behind.... then it gets real.

Urlord

icyphishy

ravenan wrote: »

yep for sure

****, I must have been too drunk yesterday, you clearly have it right!

crixus8000

Both are just s good as each other really. It just depends on your style and favorite skills. I myself prefer sordmaster, mainly because of crescendo nd its ablitity to lock down ranged classes and set them up for a full rotation.

Iron vanguards frontline used to be amazing but the nerf was hard on that, it still has its uses but now iron vangurd is good mainly because of ferocious reaction, trample the fallen. The main reason I would say though is threatning rush, that is very good

My main setup is Bull charge - anvil - lunge with crescendo, shield talent and combat superiority.

Lunging strike is amazing vs most classes and if used right it can be deadly for many reasons but usually in a 1v1 with a class like gwf or gf it would be better to use a different skill. Griffons wrath when fighting another gf for sure.

definemyth

thanks guys

definemyth

crixus8000 wrote: »

Both are just s good as each other really. It just depends on your style and favorite skills. I myself prefer sordmaster, mainly because of crescendo nd its ablitity to lock down ranged classes and set them up for a full rotation.

Iron vanguards frontline used to be amazing but the nerf was hard on that, it still has its uses but now iron vangurd is good mainly because of ferocious reaction, trample the fallen. The main reason I would say though is threatning rush, that is very good

My main setup is Bull charge - anvil - lunge with crescendo, shield talent and combat superiority.

Lunging strike is amazing vs most classes and if used right it can be deadly for many reasons but usually in a 1v1 with a class like gwf or gf it would be better to use a different skill. Griffons wrath when fighting another gf for sure.

Reading your guide atm lol.