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gertrude4life
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It amazes me how much complaining there is going on. It's almost like people can't see what the results of their complaints will be when fixes are implemented along the lines of what they want- or think they want.
Bind items to character or account- on the surface, this seems like a good idea, until a character gets to 60 and needs tier 2 gear and can't finish the dungeon to get those items. If items are bound to character or account, that means they can't be sold on the auction house. If they can't be sold, they can't be bought, either.
I see people daily leveling their characters quickly through PVP or whatever, then they get to 60 and can't complete their dailies without a party. What? really? Oh, nevermind, I didn't realize they had a gear score of 6500 trying to get into dread ring or sharandar. If it only took three days to get to 60, no wonder they don't have any astral diamonds or gear.
So, now they are at 60 and all they can do is PVP, except now they can't because they don't have the gear score to survive 60 PVP. The solution, is to run dungeons and get tiered gear. Right? No problem!
Oops, except while they were in PVP they were getting killed by (enter type here) class, so they complained and the developers saw this and said, yes this is unfair, let's nerf (enter type here) so (other type here) can survive.
So, now everyone has been nerfed and no one has gear, and you can't get it off the auction house because if you accidentally finish a dungeon, whatever dropped, whether it was for your class or not (yes, I've gotten cross-class purple gear dropped for me in dungeons) is bound so you can't sell it or buy it, and because everyone has been nerfed, the chances of you finishing the dungeons you need for your gear, which were slim in the first place because of the random drop problem, are non-existent because no one can survive the dungeons enough to complete them.
Think about what could happen before you demand changes, please?
Bind items to character or account- on the surface, this seems like a good idea, until a character gets to 60 and needs tier 2 gear and can't finish the dungeon to get those items. If items are bound to character or account, that means they can't be sold on the auction house. If they can't be sold, they can't be bought, either.
I see people daily leveling their characters quickly through PVP or whatever, then they get to 60 and can't complete their dailies without a party. What? really? Oh, nevermind, I didn't realize they had a gear score of 6500 trying to get into dread ring or sharandar. If it only took three days to get to 60, no wonder they don't have any astral diamonds or gear.
So, now they are at 60 and all they can do is PVP, except now they can't because they don't have the gear score to survive 60 PVP. The solution, is to run dungeons and get tiered gear. Right? No problem!
Oops, except while they were in PVP they were getting killed by (enter type here) class, so they complained and the developers saw this and said, yes this is unfair, let's nerf (enter type here) so (other type here) can survive.
So, now everyone has been nerfed and no one has gear, and you can't get it off the auction house because if you accidentally finish a dungeon, whatever dropped, whether it was for your class or not (yes, I've gotten cross-class purple gear dropped for me in dungeons) is bound so you can't sell it or buy it, and because everyone has been nerfed, the chances of you finishing the dungeons you need for your gear, which were slim in the first place because of the random drop problem, are non-existent because no one can survive the dungeons enough to complete them.
Think about what could happen before you demand changes, please?
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For shirts/pants, you can craft them if you have the profession ranked up, otherwise fancy shirts/pants are alright for a few stats and pretty cheap generally, if you can afford it, then you can get a slotted blue shirt/pants for a relatively decent amount. Leadership also helps to get ad but takes long to level up.
I think the developers have realized this (based on patch notes I have reviewed) and will continue to focus on the PvE asepct of this game.
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
Well, I hope so. In my opinion the idea that classes should in some sense be "equal" for PvP purposes has caused considerable harm to some classes as far as PvE is concerned - the best example is of course what was done to TRs when they got their "big nerf" a while back - TRs used to be the best at dealing massive damage to single targets...great for boss fights in PvE - not so great in PvP if you got attacked by a TR. The result was that the single target damage was reduced, and TRs were no longer as appreciated in DDs as they had been before.
I think the devs are starting to realize it is next to impossible to "balance" things this way as long as all powers work the same in PvP and PvE, which is probably why we are seeing more and more powers have different effects, depending on whether they are used against mobs or other players.
This, combined with PvP-only boons is creating a separation between PvP and PvE which is a really good thing IMO.
I meant open world PvP.
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
Since the TR is my favorite class, I really hated the nerfing of single target damage. I still hate that nerf - one I really can't let go to this day.
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
1. If I was going to play pvp, I wouldn't play this game, there are better games (funny how EVERY mmo ive played, gets the same comment)
2. PVP was just a add one, never meant for this game. (I seriously have heard this in EVERY mmo ive played for last twenty years.)
3. End game sucks here, other mmos are better.
4. Its just p2w now anyways.
5. This game is just a grind fest, I wouldn't recommend it. (you want grind, spend 3 weeks to get one level in EQ, when levels meant something)
Now, is there some truthful elements in some comments, yes, but usually people take the far end of the spectrum on it all.
Overall, I enjoy MMOs for both pve and pvp, if you have never tried PVP give it a whirl and try it out, you might enjoy yourself.
Not a redesign of the core aspect of the spell. 1sec root PVP or 3 sec root PVE type adjustments.
Having things seperated would make things easier to balance whether it be PVP or PVE.
Funny enough though, as a GWF, she still was rocking all PVE content.
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What makes NW different than some other MMOs is that it is built on a DnD platform, which does not have a PvP element in its pure form (PnP version) . . . or at least it wasn't that way in the earyl days in the 70s . . .
I have tried PvP in other games. I don't like it. Never have, never will. Full of violent, rude, cry babies (not everyone, but there are plenty of those types in PvP). Much more peaceful and enjoyable playing PvE for me.
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
as for pants and shirt: I have 11 characters (9 at 60) right now and all but my first one is still using the initial "issue" shirt and pants. And because I can;t disable visuals on them and the new "Emperor" versions have ridiculous requirements to craft them I'm thinking to just remove them altogether as the stats (even on the purple quality Gemmed versions I already have) aren;t really all that spectacular.
But the OP's point is clearly made, I think.
I dont go cussing on any player in pvp, how I look at it is some place to have fun playing against real living people, test my gears and that gives me motivation to improve my char after achieving 13k gs. People should grow out of it being violent and sick mentality and look at the bigger picture - the way that mature pvp'ers look at it. And stop telling other players to play another game for pvp, that is plain rude.
I don't think I've ever upgraded shirt and pants before 60. There is just no reason to bother.
There are several issues here. First of all, just because something is not specifically put into a phb doesn't mean it can't happen. Second even if it was completely banned in pnp it wouldn't matter. This is not pnp. There are many things here that aren't in pnp because an mmo can't be exactly like pnp and mmo's are expected to have pvp because without it many people wouldn't bother playing ie paying. Lastly your issue with __________ is different than an issue with the game mode. There might be more ________ in pvp but they're in pve too. The way is to either ignore them, or report them, not try to take away the game mode from people that enjoy it and aren't _________. That makes you no different in the end from the ___________.
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I checked the AH recently on blue items for a couple of different classes and the prices seemed more in the 700-1,000 AD per item range than 100 AD per item. Of course, I only looked at about 20 different items for 2 different classes, so I could have missed some cheaper stuff. Still not too expensive an investment. . .
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
Blues are slowly rising in price because of the artifact equipment in mod4 and people stocking up.