if u wona balance game then gwf is not the one who should get nerfs it is cw they are the one who makes dc,gf,tr,hr useless once they finaly nerf cw we might see some tr,hr,gf or even dc in end game dungeons
as for pvp iron is just broken op while swordmaster useless so all they need to to do is nerf iron path
OO Hey coming from the guy who plays an HR wants us to get OFF the topic of the HR, i understand i understand.
HOw about this....HOw about you go back to the original x10 GWF threads that youve been commenting on and stay on those topics, since your obviously here everyday commenting on GWF threads.
BUt Yes again, HR is Obviously currently the most OP class in the game.
Considering their Bugged feats, BUgged abilities with GReater plague fire.
and not to mention the MOST REGEN in the whole GAME.
Their Daily Heals them to FULL 100% health.
Bugged 4 piece set bonus (2% of ur max HP HEAL everytime you deflect ( LOL ).
and soulforged. so HR has about 3 Lives.
Easily the most OP class in the game currently.
HR needs a nerf, not GWF.
HR is getting a nerf. And unlike the upcoming Roar fix, it's going to significantly impact how we can play.
Their Daily Heals them to FULL 100% health.
It can, if you seriously try to help them do it.
I've had GWFs literally kill themselves on me (2 at the same time once, it was hilarious) when I was using forest meditation thanks to fey thistle. Are you going to tell me that forest meditation does too much damage now too?
As for having lots of regen, eh everyone's about to get lots with the BI gear. And the class trait for 20% incoming healing is something to compensate for us having no CC-break on a class that needs to be close range at least some of the time.
I dont play a GWF, I play a 18K PVP CW, I have no problems killing GWF's Your build or playstyle is just off.
Who said I have a problem killing GWFs? But yeah I'd love to see you kill an 18k GWF using Roar.
OO Hey coming from the guy who plays an HR wants us to get OFF the topic of the HR, i understand i understand.
HOw about this....HOw about you go back to the original x10 GWF threads that youve been commenting on and stay on those topics, since your obviously here everyday commenting on GWF threads.
BUt Yes again, HR is Obviously currently the most OP class in the game.
Considering their Bugged feats, BUgged abilities with GReater plague fire.
and not to mention the MOST REGEN in the whole GAME.
Their Daily Heals them to FULL 100% health.
Bugged 4 piece set bonus (2% of ur max HP HEAL everytime you deflect ( LOL ).
and soulforged. so HR has about 3 Lives.
Easily the most OP class in the game currently.
HR needs a nerf, not GWF.
I have a 47 HR and Ive not played him in a month? Why would you thing I play HR? Also this is a GWF thread!
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silverquickMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 1Arc User
edited June 2014
Well for the record, I'm one of the people who fought stringently against any kind of Nerfs on the GWF during preview.
Because I remember well what happened to the rogue class when they did this to them. They broke that class entirely in PvE.
I will continue to do so, they reversed themselves on the HR nerfs about halfway. Luckily with the Power rework it didn't affect them as much. (Still never understood why they wanted to nerf that class either).
So thank me or blame me for that, I don't regret a single thing.
At least the GWF remains functional now in PvE, and they didnt' nerf the <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> out of it to satisfy PvPers who will NEVER get the balance they want nor ever achieve it... in a PvE based game.
Its time this endless nerf cycle stopped in its tracks, its not fixing anything.
I don't know why people are blahblahblah should they be... they will be. Just have to wait it out.
hope they don`t screw up
they could lose about 15/20% of the players with it.
paladin changes on wow showed that classic mistake more then enough.
not saying it for discussion, because i have no time for it.
just hope for the game someone important enough reads and knows what happend there exactly.
i don`t see why there must be any big chances, because it`s usualy lack of gear/spec/skill.
a neverending story on socalled balancing (based on cries) didn`t do for any game good yet.
the crying ones aren`t playing much anyway, so why adjust the game to it.
other classes will be overpowered for the ones who know how to play.
neverending circle.
go ahead make your changes, people will find another game and hope to meet someone in charge of it who knows how it goes.
just simple logics.
kind of hard to grasp for humans sometimes.
hope they don`t screw up
they could lose about 15/20% of the players with it.
paladin changes on wow showed that classic mistake more then enough.
not saying it for discussion, because i have no time for it.
just hope for the game someone important enough reads and knows what happend there exactly.
i don`t see why there must be any big chances, because it`s usualy lack of gear/spec/skill.
a neverending story on socalled balancing (based on cries) didn`t do for any game good yet.
the crying ones aren`t playing much anyway, so why adjust the game to it.
other classes will be overpowered for the ones who know how to play.
neverending circle.
go ahead make your changes, people will find another game and hope to meet someone in charge of it who knows how it goes.
just simple logics.
kind of hard to grasp for humans sometimes.
Play a GF and show me how successful you are then? I play as do many other BETTER Gfs with far better gear and experience from the beginning and they ALL say the GF needs a lot of work! So keep spouting that its gear or L2P as that is not the case!
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Who said I have a problem killing GWFs? But yeah I'd love to see you kill an 18k GWF using Roar.
Dude If you cant kill a GWF , then I dont know what ur doing honestly. Its not that hard, Burn their cooldowns, Time yor EOTS, instead of just popping stuff, I have Killed some of the best on the Server. Its not hard HOneslty. CW's just get nervous and burn everything they have instantly.
O so you dont have problem killing GWF's ?
So why r u here QQing about them?
You just want everything easy dont you.
HR needs a Nerf not GWF.
HR = Most OP CLASS in the game Currently. NO question about it
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katbozejziemiMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 856Arc User
maybe you should play a GWF for a couple of days so you actually know what you're talking about?
I don't need to as members of my guild that were GFs finally said screw it and made it to 60 in 4 days and our yelling in G chat saying how ridiculously easy it is! So I need not pay the GOD class to know its god mode... Its hilarious hearing them on Teamspeak telling us how they just globalled another player and all they have is blue gear!
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Dude If you cant kill a GWF , then I dont know what ur doing honestly. Its not that hard, Burn their cooldowns, Time yor EOTS, instead of just popping stuff, I have Killed some of the best on the Server.
I call shenanigans on you. The best GWFs on the game would destroy your CW even if you have r10s and the best gear. They will destroy even the best CWs in the game, which you aren't. Your only chance is hitting some lucky daily for 20K+ crit, which is a rarity, and you will still lose if the GWF has soulforged. Best GWFs have 45K+ HP. You don't have the DPS to burn them and remain alive.
Sp please, stop being ridiculous.
Also the duels on this game are fought ON POINT, not you prancing around a pillar waiting for your cooldowns to come off.
Conclusion:
Video or it never happened. And don't come with some duel against GWFs that miss 10 Roars before hitting you, but you think they're good cause they have 3 legendaries and rank 10s.
Dude If you cant kill a GWF , then I dont know what ur doing honestly. Its not that hard, Burn their cooldowns, Time yor EOTS, instead of just popping stuff, I have Killed some of the best on the Server. Its not hard HOneslty. CW's just get nervous and burn everything they have instantly.
O so you dont have problem killing GWF's ?
So why r u here QQing about them?
You just want everything easy dont you.
HR needs a Nerf not GWF.
HR = Most OP CLASS in the game Currently. NO question about it
Dom is more than just 1v1. And like I've said, HR is getting nerfed.
But I'm curious, how do you time EOTS when it's a chance-to-proc trait?
Play a GF and show me how successful you are then? I play as do many other BETTER Gfs with far better gear and experience from the beginning and they ALL say the GF needs a lot of work! So keep spouting that its gear or L2P as that is not the case!
as said before i don`t like playing gf because of manual block, so you know.
and also as said and not only because i say it but because you can daily see if you even play pvp on a regular base, that there are gf`s who know how to play and who can kill, and don`t take huge useless piles of defense only and then complain everywhere you can, without taking notice about caps.
then it`s end discussion, and as far it concerns me, mods may remove your sig.
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beckylunaticMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 14,231Arc User
But I'm curious, how do you time EOTS when it's a chance-to-proc trait?
I think the point is that you time your other stuff for after the proc.
Say with my HR, I try to hold off Rain of Arrows until Master of Archery is up (talking PvE here). It's easier with MoA since it doesn't disperse if you don't use an encounter right away, so if it procs late, you can just wait to use it.
as said before i don`t like playing gf because of manual block, so you know.
and also as said and not only because i say it but because you can daily see if you even play pvp on a regular base, that there are gf`s who know how to play and who can kill, and don`t take huge useless piles of defense only and then complain everywhere you can, without taking notice about caps.
then it`s end discussion, and as far it concerns me, mods may remove your sig.
No there are not you are making things up! I play with a bunch of good / great players and they fair sometimes worse then I. The only time a GF can be good against a GWF is if he severely out gears him!
So please stop the nonsense, you're speculating on a class that you have no experience on and are going to tell us the GF community we need to L2P?
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No there are not you are making things up! I play with a bunch of good / great players and they fair sometimes worse then I. The only time a GF can be good against a GWF is if he severely out gears him!
So please stop the nonsense, you're speculating on a class that you have no experience on and are going to tell us the GF community we need to L2P?
yes sure, you don`t even provide detailes when someone hits you for 10k, just cry cry cry. no detailes what so ever about what player was near with which debufs and so on.
how many pots he has on. loads of factors which count.
and you just say buf me, and that your friends are good.
yes well good for them if it`s even true but that `s no information.
the detailes we have that he "said" that he had same gs as you.
yes please go entertain some other lowbee with these conversations.
are going to tell us the GF community we need to L2P?
no not only GF`s, i`m not a classist. loads need to learn to play, and as said. some know how to play, same goes for any other class.
i`m done replying on your twists ;p
no not only GF`s, i`m not a classist. loads need to learn to play, and as said. some know how to play, same goes for any other class.
i`m done replying on your twists ;p
Well I kow how to play, maybe I'll see you in game! If you're not playing a OP class you can test my ability until then please stop speculating on people you don't know. We know how to play the game!
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I dont play a GWF, I play a 18K PVP CW, I have no problems killing GWF's Your build or playstyle is just off.
Ya Dev's I have NO PROBLEMS killing GWF's what so ever, just keep distance (range class)
CC and prone them down. simple as that
as for pvp iron is just broken op while swordmaster useless so all they need to to do is nerf iron path
HR is getting a nerf. And unlike the upcoming Roar fix, it's going to significantly impact how we can play.
It can, if you seriously try to help them do it.
I've had GWFs literally kill themselves on me (2 at the same time once, it was hilarious) when I was using forest meditation thanks to fey thistle. Are you going to tell me that forest meditation does too much damage now too?
As for having lots of regen, eh everyone's about to get lots with the BI gear. And the class trait for 20% incoming healing is something to compensate for us having no CC-break on a class that needs to be close range at least some of the time.
Who said I have a problem killing GWFs? But yeah I'd love to see you kill an 18k GWF using Roar.
I have a 47 HR and Ive not played him in a month? Why would you thing I play HR? Also this is a GWF thread!
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~ GF Buffs were great we are much better, please fix the bugs now... Thank you!
Because I remember well what happened to the rogue class when they did this to them. They broke that class entirely in PvE.
I will continue to do so, they reversed themselves on the HR nerfs about halfway. Luckily with the Power rework it didn't affect them as much. (Still never understood why they wanted to nerf that class either).
So thank me or blame me for that, I don't regret a single thing.
At least the GWF remains functional now in PvE, and they didnt' nerf the <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> out of it to satisfy PvPers who will NEVER get the balance they want nor ever achieve it... in a PvE based game.
Its time this endless nerf cycle stopped in its tracks, its not fixing anything.
hope they don`t screw up
they could lose about 15/20% of the players with it.
paladin changes on wow showed that classic mistake more then enough.
not saying it for discussion, because i have no time for it.
just hope for the game someone important enough reads and knows what happend there exactly.
i don`t see why there must be any big chances, because it`s usualy lack of gear/spec/skill.
a neverending story on socalled balancing (based on cries) didn`t do for any game good yet.
the crying ones aren`t playing much anyway, so why adjust the game to it.
other classes will be overpowered for the ones who know how to play.
neverending circle.
go ahead make your changes, people will find another game and hope to meet someone in charge of it who knows how it goes.
just simple logics.
kind of hard to grasp for humans sometimes.
Play a GF and show me how successful you are then? I play as do many other BETTER Gfs with far better gear and experience from the beginning and they ALL say the GF needs a lot of work! So keep spouting that its gear or L2P as that is not the case!
Overpowered 60 CW ~ Thaumaturge 14.5k
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~ GF Buffs were great we are much better, please fix the bugs now... Thank you!
Dude If you cant kill a GWF , then I dont know what ur doing honestly. Its not that hard, Burn their cooldowns, Time yor EOTS, instead of just popping stuff, I have Killed some of the best on the Server. Its not hard HOneslty. CW's just get nervous and burn everything they have instantly.
O so you dont have problem killing GWF's ?
So why r u here QQing about them?
You just want everything easy dont you.
HR needs a Nerf not GWF.
HR = Most OP CLASS in the game Currently. NO question about it
maybe you should play a GWF for a couple of days so you actually know what you're talking about?
I don't need to as members of my guild that were GFs finally said screw it and made it to 60 in 4 days and our yelling in G chat saying how ridiculously easy it is! So I need not pay the GOD class to know its god mode... Its hilarious hearing them on Teamspeak telling us how they just globalled another player and all they have is blue gear!
Overpowered 60 CW ~ Thaumaturge 14.5k
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~ GF Buffs were great we are much better, please fix the bugs now... Thank you!
I call shenanigans on you. The best GWFs on the game would destroy your CW even if you have r10s and the best gear. They will destroy even the best CWs in the game, which you aren't. Your only chance is hitting some lucky daily for 20K+ crit, which is a rarity, and you will still lose if the GWF has soulforged. Best GWFs have 45K+ HP. You don't have the DPS to burn them and remain alive.
Sp please, stop being ridiculous.
Also the duels on this game are fought ON POINT, not you prancing around a pillar waiting for your cooldowns to come off.
Conclusion:
Video or it never happened. And don't come with some duel against GWFs that miss 10 Roars before hitting you, but you think they're good cause they have 3 legendaries and rank 10s.
Dom is more than just 1v1. And like I've said, HR is getting nerfed.
But I'm curious, how do you time EOTS when it's a chance-to-proc trait?
The dude speaks in circles.... Hes a GWF hes just posing as a CW to justify his claims.
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~ GF Buffs were great we are much better, please fix the bugs now... Thank you!
as said before i don`t like playing gf because of manual block, so you know.
and also as said and not only because i say it but because you can daily see if you even play pvp on a regular base, that there are gf`s who know how to play and who can kill, and don`t take huge useless piles of defense only and then complain everywhere you can, without taking notice about caps.
then it`s end discussion, and as far it concerns me, mods may remove your sig.
I think the point is that you time your other stuff for after the proc.
Say with my HR, I try to hold off Rain of Arrows until Master of Archery is up (talking PvE here). It's easier with MoA since it doesn't disperse if you don't use an encounter right away, so if it procs late, you can just wait to use it.
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No there are not you are making things up! I play with a bunch of good / great players and they fair sometimes worse then I. The only time a GF can be good against a GWF is if he severely out gears him!
So please stop the nonsense, you're speculating on a class that you have no experience on and are going to tell us the GF community we need to L2P?
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~ GF Buffs were great we are much better, please fix the bugs now... Thank you!
yes sure, you don`t even provide detailes when someone hits you for 10k, just cry cry cry. no detailes what so ever about what player was near with which debufs and so on.
how many pots he has on. loads of factors which count.
and you just say buf me, and that your friends are good.
yes well good for them if it`s even true but that `s no information.
the detailes we have that he "said" that he had same gs as you.
yes please go entertain some other lowbee with these conversations.
still recommend force him to remove sig.
i`m done replying on your twists ;p
built one. It's a button masher. Barely need to watch the screen. And that's built with spare parts and drops.
Well I kow how to play, maybe I'll see you in game! If you're not playing a OP class you can test my ability until then please stop speculating on people you don't know. We know how to play the game!
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~ GF Buffs were great we are much better, please fix the bugs now... Thank you!
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